[Hatz]

I think this team may make it to the carpet, but I'm not for sure if they will come away with a state title.

If they can get to the carpet from their side of the bracket, I don't see anyone on the other side competing. Your biggest competition will be a Holy Cross or NCC. Both of those were loaded last year. :Thumbs:

[GetChili]

That is true. It just seems when the Jumpers get to the carpet, things just don't pan out the way they should. I hope Somerset does make it there and finally get that state title that is long overdue.

[Crossback]

But last year wasn't "just short." 48-14 isn't a close one. 2010 was a close loss to Belfry but that was 3A. Northern KY has owned 2A for a couple of years and Ft Campbell just prior to that.

I have great respect for the Somerset program and it's accomplishments. I still haven't figured out how they've not won a title yet with the great teams and talents they always have. But the key is how do they stack up vs. the 2A top dogs and have they improved beyond last year's loss?

In NKY we dont see Somerset but once a year so it is hard to tell from one game, but from what I saw in the lose against Holy Cross were 2 things that need to improve. 1 fundamentals and composure. Somerset was by far the strongest team I believe we faced but HC fundamentally beat them. Once that happened they lost composure and it got ugly. Good strong team but over all fundamentals need improvement.

[Jumper Dad]

You are correct on the Jumpers losing composure in that game. Everything that could go wrong in that second half did and the Jumpers didn't help themselves any either. Even though the game ended up a blow out, I think at half time it was a one score game and the Jumpers were right in the game. HC QB totally took over the game in the 2nd half and was the difference in that game.

Somerset was a little down last year so that wasn't a great representation of the Somerset Program...Last years team had some talent but offensively never really clicked all year. IMO if either the 09 or 10 team played in 2A last year they would have won. So maybe Somerset will get their O going this year and the folks up north will get to come to Somerset to see them again in late November.

[JumperPride1]

Somerset is usually a very sound team fundamentally. Last years team over achieved to get to semi-state. Composure was definitely an issue at hc, coupled with an outstanding performance by hc's Kyle fuller... By far the best qb the jumpers have seen in the past couple years. The 09-10 teams would have faired better last year against hc. A 9-5 year with a regional title was a 'down' year in comparison, however the jumpers were young and got a lot of valuable experience. I hope to see hc at the patch this year, could b a great one! I am in the camp that believes this coming team will be as good if not better than the previous 3 teams, assuming the qb play is adequate, and I believe gadberry is ready to take over and flourish.

[RunItUpTheGut]

I think the losing composure has to do with youth as it does with many younger teams. They also lost their composure against Whitley in a big way and it costed them the game.

Im sure the Jumpers will mature over the summer and you will see a better team.

[West 80]

Somerset is going to be real good according to a few dads I work with who have sons at Somerset.

[Cellking]

I think the losing composure has to do with youth as it does with many younger teams. They also lost their composure against Whitley in a big way and it costed them the game.

Im sure the Jumpers will mature over the summer and you will see a better team.

Don't think composure had anything to do with th Whitley Co. Game. I saw that game and the 2 calls at the end determined that game. Give it to the Zebras.!!! Not lack of composure.

[Dumpster Diving]

Most teams lose composure by the time their 3rd touchdown is called back. Lol. First game I have ever heard of where fans from the opposing team apologized after the game to the other team for, in their words, 'a hosing.' saw it first hand!

[RunItUpTheGut]

Don't think composure had anything to do with th Whitley Co. Game. I saw that game and the 2 calls at the end determined that game. Give it to the Zebras.!!! Not lack of composure.

Yea because Somerset showed great "class" all throughout that game.
Kind of embarrassed themselves.

[Dumpster Diving]

Kind of like that psycho woman running around on the field for Whitley? Don't act like Whitley was an example of class.

[Cellking]

Yea because Somerset showed great "class" all throughout that game.
Kind of embarrassed themselves.

I was just there to watch the game, no one playing for either side. No Boanes to beat, No lies to tell. Just way I saw, 2 terrible calls on drive that took 2 scores off the Board. Dang!!!!

[RunItUpTheGut]

^
Im not getting into it because i already did last year. Its a new season.
But what i seen last year out of a couple of those kids was embarrasing and ill leave it at that.

[JumperPride1]

^
Im not getting into it because i already did last year. Its a new season.
But what i seen last year out of a couple of those kids was embarrasing and ill leave it at that.

We're the Whitley kids embarrassed about the post and chop that tore our starting middle backers meniscus? Whitley is a physically talented team, but honestly I've never seen a group hosed as bad as we were at Whitley. Somerset let them get out to a 10-0 lead and should've never dug themselves into that hole, but the officiating ultimately determined that outcome. Can u specifically tell me wha players your referring to? I have the film and will look for it, but Whitley was blocking hi-low, which is illegal according to the khsaa.

[RunItUpTheGut]

^
As i said im not getting into it.
I already did in the thread after the game.
Ill leave it at that.
But we all know what happened.

[SWHS future]

^
As i said im not getting into it.
I already did in the thread after the game.
Ill leave it at that.
But we all know what happened.

I too was at this game and saw nothing or heard of nothing that would make me thing Somerset lost there composure or embarrassed themselves. I was also at the Holy Cross game and did see Somerset lose there composure. I think your comment is incorrect. I only saw one person lose their composure at the Whitley/ Somerset game and she got a laugh out of the crowd when she did.

[briarjumperfan]

That picture is priceless! :Thumbs: My son would of been furious if I ran out there like that. It sums up the game though...

[Cellking]

That picture is priceless! :Thumbs: My son would of been furious if I ran out there like that. It sums up the game though...

A picture is worth a 1000 wors.lol:biglmao:

[RunItUpTheGut]

Do you all not realize thats our trainer? She was on the field after taking a player off.

Nice try though.

That is not a parent.

Wanna show a picture of Boston Bryant getting kicked by two different Somerset kids or punched by the one hot head that is hopefully gone? A picture can say a 1000 words when you make it say what you want it to.
Oh, i bet you aint got that one.


But since you must bring it up, in case youve forgotten, heres some post from the thread, none of which i posted.....

Wow!! I don't know what game you watched?

I lost a lot of respect tonight for a Somerset program I thought represented the area well.
We had one player hurt because a Somerset defender dove head first hitting (helmet to helmet) a Whitley player laying on the ground (the Whitley player wasn't even the ball carrier). Then the refs called a 15 yard personal foul on the coach for trying to get the refs to defend his player. That penalty was the first thing to stop Whitley's offense.

The whole 1st half Somerset was trying to hurt Bryant. On one of the (2tds is all I remember) that got called back, a Somerset player tried to take a cheap shot on Bryant and missed, as soon as bryant tried to run toward the ball another Somerset player dove and hit bryant in the back of the knee trying to hurt him.

That was one of the most disgraceful plays I've ever seen a team try to make. That is what cost you one touchdown. The other td I remember being called back was an obvious hold on a sweep at the end of the game.

Just to be honest I think Somerset got lucky in this game. There should have been two players ejected from the game and sitting out the next two.

Cheating? Somerset is the dirtest team I have seen in a long time, very disapointed with Coach Lucas, his players were trying the whole game to take 44(Bryant) out of the game with one chop block from behind, 30 yards away from the ball, that player should have been ejected on the spot. They put out #14 with a spear that was after the whistle. I know Coach Cobb would not of went for that style of play. Lost a lot of respect for Coach Lucas and the Somerset Program.

Did the refs fumble inside the 2 yard line in the first half or have the ball at the Whiltey County 1 yard line late and not score? Come on! Somerset had its chances to win this game. VERY bush league for a team the caliber of Somerset to stoop to the level of blaming refs for a loss. Remember, this games means nothing once district games start. Somerset will be just fine.

Amen, I agree with you completely. Whitley plays a lot of physical teams who will smack you in the mouth. But it was absolutely disgraceful the way this Somerset team played.

What a drive to end the game. A fourth down reverse for the first down with the QB leading the way for the ball carrier, its called team football. 44 can play for anyone around this area and would be a start too.

For Whitley it came down to all or nothing, and Whitley just wanted it more than Somerset did, a powerful run into the endzone.

I too was disappointed in the cheap play of Somerset, late hits whining by the coaches, yes Whitley;s coach got a flag but who wouldn't stood up for his players in that situation. Through it all Whitley maintained their composure and played tough hard nosed football.

You should really go back and watch the film Bryant did not throw a punch on that play and it wasn't just a block in the back. The Somerset kid dove straight at the back of Bryant's knee.

I'm also curious if you think it was questionable when the Somerset player speared our player and they called a penalty on our coach.

I was shocked to see what should have been a proud, respectable program like Somerset resort to trying on many occasions to intentionally hurt bryant. I don't know how you could hold your head up or defend your team after such disgraceful tactics.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Point is Someret tried to take out Bryant the entire game last year.
Whether you like it or not, that was the dirtiest damn football i see all year.
We didnt homer, Somerset shot themselve in the foot numerous time.

Best thing is youll get another shot this year at home, will bring the same team, you try and do the same.

[Cellking]

Point is Someret tried to take out Bryant the entire game last year.
Whether you like it or not, that was the dirtiest damn football i see all year.
We didnt homer, Somerset shot themselve in the foot numerous time.

Best thing is youll get another shot this year at home, will bring the same team, you try and do the same.

No we'll bring a better one, and you people can go home crying.lol

[briarjumperfan]

Ok sorry but... a trainer does not need to be on the field yelling and stomping her foot at the refs. Very professional. Take care of player and get your rear off the field. Like you said new season who cares what was said last season.

[RunItUpTheGut]

^
The reason the trainer was on the field was because the refs didnt call anything when a Somerset player hit Bryant at the knees right in front of him. I would hope everyone has a trainer who cares about her players, but its not a hot headed mom as you was trying to make it out to be.

This is why i said i didnt want to get into this. It only gets everyone mad and that was 2011, this is 2012. Lets move on.

[Crossback]

^
The reason the trainer was on the field was because the refs didnt call anything when a Somerset player hit Bryant at the knees right in front of him. I would hope everyone has a trainer who cares about her players, but its not a hot headed mom as you was trying to make it out to be.

This is why i said i didnt want to get into this. It only gets everyone mad and that was 2011, this is 2012. Lets move on.

The problem is iit will be the same this year. No one can come out and say that they were not trying to hurt player on purpose and they know it. It may have only been some of the pkayers but it was happening vs HC as well. The coaching staff didnt try to stop it so it will be the same this year. That is where the problem is and that is why I dont mind it being brought up.

[Cellking]

The problem is iit will be the same this year. No one can come out and say that they were not trying to hurt player on purpose and they know it. It may have only been some of the pkayers but it was happening vs HC as well. The coaching staff didnt try to stop it so it will be the same this year. That is where the problem is and that is why I dont mind it being brought up.

What was Somerset's Staff suppost to do, tell them not to tackle Bryant??? When teaching tackling you teach an aim point. It's not the knees, then if you miss aim point you take what ever part of body that is left hoping to get a piece of the Off. player. Bryant is a Running back it is legal to tackle him anywhere, except facemask or shoulder pads. Dang!!! Let's get on to 2012:redboxer:

[Crossback]

What was Somerset's Staff suppost to do, tell them not to tackle Bryant??? When teaching tackling you teach an aim point. It's not the knees, then if you miss aim point you take what ever part of body that is left hoping to get a piece of the Off. player. Bryant is a Running back it is legal to tackle him anywhere, except facemask or shoulder pads. Dang!!! Let's get on to 2012:redboxer:

No one has a problem with a tackle. Its the late hits, hits from behind after the wistle, spearing after the wistle, ankle twisting after the wistle and pkenty of other crap. You may support this crap so it wont look dirty and cheap and unsportsman like to you. But it will lessen your chances of beating a good team in a tough game. Spend your time on some good football instead of cheap play and you may win the next one. You may want to ask your coach to do the same.

[Crossback]

And for thise that dont believe the coach is allowing this, if not encouraging it, check the video in a post last December, week 11 wired up I believe. Explain what the coach ment when he said if we dont beat them this week we will beat them next week if you know what I mean. Yea coach we can see what you mean but why dont you just spell it out for us.

[JumperPride1]

No one has a problem with a tackle. Its the late hits, hits from behind after the wistle, spearing after the wistle, ankle twisting after the wistle and pkenty of other crap. You may support this crap so it wont look dirty and cheap and unsportsman like to you. But it will lessen your chances of beating a good team in a tough game. Spend your time on some good football instead of cheap play and you may win the next one. You may want to ask your coach to do the same.

While I agree that there was somewhat of a lack of discipline on last years team, I disagree that anything in the Whitley game was malicious, and the holy cross game was an emotional deal for some kids late. You're generalizing a program that is top ten in the state in all time wins, has 3peted in the region in both 3a and now 2a. Somerset has won 6 regions in the past decade. They have one title appearance in that same time frame. The Shs program has been consistently successful for a very long time (over 100 years of football). Somerset does of have the luxery of playing in south Cincinnati where the athletes are plentiful, but despite the title last year I would argue that that Somerset is a better program than holy cross. Succes is a measurement of consistency, and Somerset has been just that for a long time. One title doesn't make hc the end all be all... If this were coming from new cath I'd understand but please save me the lecture on how to run a successful program.

[Norm Peterson]

And for thise that dont believe the coach is allowing this, if not encouraging it, check the video in a post last December, week 11 wired up I believe. Explain what the coach ment when he said if we dont beat them this week we will beat them next week if you know what I mean. Yea coach we can see what you mean but why dont you just spell it out for us.

So where does he say anything about doing anything dirty or malicious? Last year's team was built on a physical running game and a hard hitting defense. He was saying to come out and play a punishing brand of football. Nothing more nothing less. Some seniors lost control of their emotions late in the game and picked up some personal fouls that should not have happened. However, he got them out of the game and at one point put in a senior offensive lineman on defense to calm the younger players on defense. If they were consistently playing like that where were all the personal fouls earlier in thee game. As for the ones that lost their composure, it should not have happened. However, the drunken idiots sitting outside the fence behind the Somerset bench yelling insults certainly contributed to the situation. Crossback you certainly seem to have a hard time getting over a game you guys won. I can tell you plenty of things that were said to our players and done to our players in the bottom of the pile by Holy Cross players as well. They are kids, that stuff happens--on all teams. I do know that the Somerset staff does not teach or condone dirty play.

[JumperPride1]

So where does he say anything about doing anything dirty or malicious? Last year's team was built on a physical running game and a hard hitting defense. He was saying to come out and play a punishing brand of football. Nothing more nothing less. Some seniors lost control of their emotions late in the game and picked up some personal fouls that should not have happened. However, he got them out of the game and at one point put in a senior offensive lineman on defense to calm the younger players on defense. If they were consistently playing like that where were all the personal fouls earlier in thee game. As for the ones that lost their composure, it should not have happened. However, the drunken idiots sitting outside the fence behind the Somerset bench yelling insults certainly contributed to the situation. Crossback you certainly seem to have a hard time getting over a game you guys won. I can tell you plenty of things that were said to our players and done to our players in the bottom of the pile by Holy Cross players as well. They are kids, that stuff happens--on all teams. I do know that the Somerset staff does not teach or condone dirty play.

Good post. Yes the plenty of things that were said or done to our players... Lets start at pregame when Coach Krezerski (SP, no idea) punted one of our footballs into our cheerleaders. Lange got a hold of a couple balls pretty well, and it rolled into their warm-ups twice... Second time Bruce punted it and cussed our kids. Robbie Lucas, the same man being accused of inciting dirty play, would never kick an opposing teams ball into the stands for it accidentally rolling into our warmups during pregame (I can actually see no reason he would ever do such a thing). Really sets the tone for great sportsmanship throughout don't ya think?