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If Obama were to win a second term...
#1
Would it be even harder on him given the fact that he will have more republicans in there against him? Would he finish the term and run America in the ground, or would he be impeached by year 3?

Hopefully, that won't happen. But I just have a bad feeling about it...
#2
Obama will never be impeached because Democrats in the U.S. Senate are too corrupt to put country over politics and Republicans learned that when they impeached Bill Clinton. Besides, if Obama manages to win a second term, it is unlikely that Republicans would gain many seats in Congress and it is almost certain that Democrats would retain the majority of Senate seats. Right or wrong, victorious presidential candidates win new political capital, even if they squandered what they had in a previous term.
#3
Kardashian would shove through his radical programs through executive orders. He has done it before. When he faces no further elections, he will show his true agenda. Of course, looking at his entire heredity and environment through life, only a fool doesn't realize that he is a serious danger to our way of life.

It has been said that Kardashian will depend on the moron vote to win. No doubt, that is true.
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Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:Kardashian would shove through his radical programs through executive orders. He has done it before. When he faces no further elections, he will show his true agenda. Of course, looking at his entire heredity and environment through life, only a fool doesn't realize that he is a serious danger to our way of life.

It has been said that Kardashian will depend on the moron vote to win. No doubt, that is true.

And if he looses, who knows what wild radical stunt he'll do during the lame duck session.
#5
Bob Seger Wrote:And if he looses, who knows what wild radical stunt he'll do during the lame duck session.
Hopefully, the lure of America's golf courses will be strong enough to limit the damage, but like you, I fear what kind of things Obama would do to this country out of spite. Like Al Gore, Obama strikes me as a sore loser.
#6
If he wins another term that will give him time to completely rewrite the constitution to where he could get another term.
Why not? He's rewriting it as we speak.
#7
I fear more what people would do rather than the President...he's somewhat limited when it comes to doing anything too radical because of how our government is set up. It'd be doing it's job.

But, like I said, the U.S. population scares me more. The political divide in our country is nearly as high as it's ever been, and if the President wins a second term, I think it'll only get deeper.

One good thing would come out of a second term though...at least we'd get two choice in that election rather than one, lol.
#8
vundy33 Wrote:I fear more what people would do rather than the President...he's somewhat limited when it comes to doing anything too radical because of how our government is set up. It'd be doing it's job.

But, like I said, the U.S. population scares me more. The political divide in our country is nearly as high as it's ever been, and if the President wins a second term, I think it'll only get deeper.

One good thing would come out of a second term though...at least we'd get two choice in that election rather than one, lol.

The political divide in this country has never been more severe. You can bank on it that it will be worse if Kardashian is reelected.
#9
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Obama will never be impeached because Democrats in the U.S. Senate are too corrupt to put country over politics and Republicans learned that when they impeached Bill Clinton. Besides, if Obama manages to win a second term, it is unlikely that Republicans would gain many seats in Congress and it is almost certain that Democrats would retain the majority of Senate seats. Right or wrong, victorious presidential candidates win new political capital, even if they squandered what they had in a previous term.

I agree with what you are saying about Obama, but it is way farfetched stating the Republicans was putting their country over politics when they were trying to impeach Bill Clinton. It was all a political witchhunt from the time they wired that ugly woman who talked to Monical Lewinsky to spending millions of dollars on Kenneth Starr. They like to use the excuse of perjury but they would have attempted to impeach him whether he admitted it or not. It is corruption when you have people criticizing you for having an affair and those doing the same thing such as Livingston, Gingrich, Sanford, the guy from Nevada and the list goes on and on.
#10
OrangenowBlue Wrote:I agree with what you are saying about Obama, but it is way farfetched stating the Republicans was putting their country over politics when they were trying to impeach Bill Clinton. It was all a political witchhunt from the time they wired that ugly woman who talked to Monical Lewinsky to spending millions of dollars on Kenneth Starr. They like to use the excuse of perjury but they would have attempted to impeach him whether he admitted it or not. It is corruption when you have people criticizing you for having an affair and those doing the same thing such as Livingston, Gingrich, Sanford, the guy from Nevada and the list goes on and on.


I agree.
#11
OrangenowBlue Wrote:I agree with what you are saying about Obama, but it is way farfetched stating the Republicans was putting their country over politics when they were trying to impeach Bill Clinton. It was all a political witchhunt from the time they wired that ugly woman who talked to Monical Lewinsky to spending millions of dollars on Kenneth Starr. They like to use the excuse of perjury but they would have attempted to impeach him whether he admitted it or not. It is corruption when you have people criticizing you for having an affair and those doing the same thing such as Livingston, Gingrich, Sanford, the guy from Nevada and the list goes on and on.
Many politicians have affairs and lie about it. Few people are placed under oath before a federal judge, are caught lying, and escape with a slap on the wrist. Clinton was guilty as charged by the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senators who voted to acquit him engaged in the equivalent of jury nullification. At least the federal judge to whom Clinton lied held him accountable. His supporters certainly did not.

I personally think that the question of how the Clinton administration ended up in possession of more than 900 FBI dossiers - all on prominent Republicans - should have been thoroughly investigated and may have been better grounds for Clinton's impeachment. The Clinton years were one long scandal after another. Hillary and Dick Morris did a good job keeping him out of jail over the years.
#12
It was a blowjob. Not a huge deal.
#13
Perjury is a big deal.
#14
vundy33 Wrote:It was a blowjob. Not a huge deal.



I respectfully disagree. It was a huge deal for a sitting pesident to be charged and found guilty of lying to a federal judge, and duly fined, (he was temporarily disbarred for his actions as well.) Lying to the American people about it in toto, was equally huge. He brought unprecedented shame on the United States and the office of the president in the eyes of the world, as news of one of the unfortunate encounters was reported to have occurred during a conference call with Russian president Boris Yeltsin, that is certainly huge. Not to mention the fact the whole sordid affair was televised to the planet. The whole embarrassing and unsavory mess was laid out for all to see. His performance before the judge birthed the now famous phrase "it depends what your definition of is, is."

He paved the way for future politicians to feel comfortable telling whoppers of equal and even greater significance as they now lie like rugs whenever they feel inclined. I also lost respect for the CBC as they circled the wagons for Clinton, distorting the facts, filibustering and repeating the now standard byline when referring to the sexual misdeeds of those in office saying "what they do in their private life is their own business" Which is patently false in at least two ways; first, he certainly wasn't on his own time pursuing his private sexual interests while he was doing the people's business with the Russian president on the phone in the Oval Office, (with a 20 year old intern under the Resolute Desk), and second, generally speaking the president's life is not his own while in office and service to the United States of America, he is expected to conduct himself like a gentleman.

It's a remarkably ironic and inequitable twist of personal standards to demand members of the Secret Service remain sexually blameless in duty to the United States, eight of twelve charged in the recent Columbian prostitution scandal were forced out of the service but, Bill was given a pass for relatively the same behavior, from within the Oval Office, no less. It was a decidedly huge deal. The line of rationale used by the dems was intended to de-sensationalize the impeachment proceedings of a sitting president. He managed to hold on to his office but, he tarnished and diminished the integrity of the office for the foreseeable future, an action that was more than huge, it was tragic to the reputation of our nation. I really believe those days helped infuence the abject contempt we have seen towards the US from the arab nations in general.
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#15
i think obama will win a second term. all of the polls have him winning by a small margin. romney is good but obama will be better. he just hasn't had enough time to implement his system yet
#16
WideMiddle03 Wrote:i think obama will win a second term. all of the polls have him winning by a small margin. romney is good but obama will be better. he just hasn't had enough time to implement his system yet



Right, we're all anxiously awaiting the impact of his soon coming implementation of the other 6.4 trillion dollars in deficit spending. :Thumbs:
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TheRealThing Wrote:Right, we're all anxiously awaiting the impact of his soon coming implementation of the other 6.4 trillion dollars in deficit spending. :Thumbs:

that is all through bushes programs obama has to stop all of them before the deficit can slow down and he would be able to do that with four more years
#18
WideMiddle03 Wrote:that is all through bushes programs obama has to stop all of them before the deficit can slow down and he would be able to do that with four more years


Wow! Have you volunteered your sevices to the DNC? If that's all there is to it, I'm sure they need to talk to you.
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#19
we gave the jackass bush 8 years to drive us in the dirt, why not give obama a shot ?
#20
WideMiddle03 Wrote:that is all through bushes programs obama has to stop all of them before the deficit can slow down and he would be able to do that with four more years

Come on man. You are a "Wide." You should know better!
#21
4_real Wrote:we gave the jackass bush 8 years to drive us in the dirt, why not give obama a shot ?

:lame: and clueless.
#22
4_real Wrote:we gave the jackass bush 8 years to drive us in the dirt, why not give obama a shot ?

One year of Obama is more damaging than eight years of Bush.
#23
4_real Wrote:we gave the jackass bush 8 years to drive us in the dirt, why not give obama a shot ?


If we could pay our bills we wouldn't have to borrow .40 cents of every dollar we spend. We owe 16 trillion right now, we can't pay that back without cutting spending which, Obama and the dems are not willing to do. How much worse will our financial situation be 4 years from now when we owe 22.5 trillion? Obama will have more than doubled our national debt from the 2008 high water mark which took 236 years, (our nation's total lifetime) to accumulate. Before Obama 10.5 trillion, after Obama, 22.5 trillion (if we're lucky), and you're saying Bush drove us in the dirt?

Romney has demonstrated beyond question that he can balance a budget with his record of public service as the governor of Massachusetts. They were 3 billion in debt when he took office and they were totally rolling in dough when he left. The only thing Obama ever balanced was a set of dope scales at Occidental.
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#24
TheRealThing Wrote:If we could pay our bills we wouldn't have to borrow .40 cents of every dollar we spend. We owe 16 trillion right now, we can't pay that back without cutting spending which, Obama and the dems are not willing to do. How much worse will our financial situation be 4 years from now when we owe 22.5 trillion? Obama will have more than doubled our national debt from the 2008 high water mark which took 236 years, (our nation's total lifetime) to accumulate. Before Obama 10.5 trillion, after Obama, 22.5 trillion (if we're lucky), and you're saying Bush drove us in the dirt?

Romney has demonstrated beyond question that he can balance a budget with his record of public service as the governor of Massachusetts. They were 3 billion in debt when he took office and they were totally rolling in dough when he left. The only thing Obama ever balanced was a set of dope scales at Occidental.

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#25
TheRealThing Wrote:Right, we're all anxiously awaiting the impact of his soon coming implementation of the other 6.4 trillion dollars in deficit spending. :Thumbs:

he won't spend 6.4 trillion and if he does he will bring in more than 6.4 trillion because he will have ended bushes programs and put his own. In that will make more money for the united states and we will be a rich nation and we will be back to where we was when clinton left
#26
TheRealThing Wrote:If we could pay our bills we wouldn't have to borrow .40 cents of every dollar we spend. We owe 16 trillion right now, we can't pay that back without cutting spending which, Obama and the dems are not willing to do. How much worse will our financial situation be 4 years from now when we owe 22.5 trillion? Obama will have more than doubled our national debt from the 2008 high water mark which took 236 years, (our nation's total lifetime) to accumulate. Before Obama 10.5 trillion, after Obama, 22.5 trillion (if we're lucky), and you're saying Bush drove us in the dirt?

Romney has demonstrated beyond question that he can balance a budget with his record of public service as the governor of Massachusetts. They were 3 billion in debt when he took office and they were totally rolling in dough when he left. The only thing Obama ever balanced was a set of dope scales at Occidental.

How did Romney handle his state's healthcare issue?
#27
WideRight05 Wrote:One year of Obama is more damaging than eight years of Bush.

Really, how did the war with Iraq go over...why where we there again?

Everyone talks about Solundra (sp) losing 100 million dollars... how about Dick Cheney losing 500 million dollars in 30 seconds with Hollibertan (sp).

Obama gets credit for the bailouts...but if memory serves didn't Bush do the first bailouts?
#28
TheRealThing Wrote:I respectfully disagree. It was a huge deal for a sitting pesident to be charged and found guilty of lying to a federal judge, and duly fined, (he was temporarily disbarred for his actions as well.) Lying to the American people about it in toto, was equally huge. He brought unprecedented shame on the United States and the office of the president in the eyes of the world, as news of one of the unfortunate encounters was reported to have occurred during a conference call with Russian president Boris Yeltsin, that is certainly huge. Not to mention the fact the whole sordid affair was televised to the planet. The whole embarrassing and unsavory mess was laid out for all to see. His performance before the judge birthed the now famous phrase "it depends what your definition of is, is."

He paved the way for future politicians to feel comfortable telling whoppers of equal and even greater significance as they now lie like rugs whenever they feel inclined. I also lost respect for the CBC as they circled the wagons for Clinton, distorting the facts, filibustering and repeating the now standard byline when referring to the sexual misdeeds of those in office saying "what they do in their private life is their own business" Which is patently false in at least two ways; first, he certainly wasn't on his own time pursuing his private sexual interests while he was doing the people's business with the Russian president on the phone in the Oval Office, (with a 20 year old intern under the Resolute Desk), and second, generally speaking the president's life is not his own while in office and service to the United States of America, he is expected to conduct himself like a gentleman.

It's a remarkably ironic and inequitable twist of personal standards to demand members of the Secret Service remain sexually blameless in duty to the United States, eight of twelve charged in the recent Columbian prostitution scandal were forced out of the service but, Bill was given a pass for relatively the same behavior, from within the Oval Office, no less. It was a decidedly huge deal. The line of rationale used by the dems was intended to de-sensationalize the impeachment proceedings of a sitting president. He managed to hold on to his office but, he tarnished and diminished the integrity of the office for the foreseeable future, an action that was more than huge, it was tragic to the reputation of our nation. I really believe those days helped infuence the abject contempt we have seen towards the US from the arab nations in general.

I agree lying to the American Public is huge... what was the cause for the Iraqi war?
#29
tvtimeout Wrote:How did Romney handle his state's healthcare issue?

Shouldn't you be teaching your elementary kids, or tweeking the renewable energy gizmo you invented, or looking in on one of your two businesses?
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#30
tvtimeout Wrote:Really, how did the war with Iraq go over...why where we there again?

Everyone talks about Solundra (sp) losing 100 million dollars... how about Dick Cheney losing 500 million dollars in 30 seconds with Hollibertan (sp).

Obama gets credit for the bailouts...but if memory serves didn't Bush do the first bailouts?

Believe me your memory, your math and your spelling has let you down. But yes, Bush did the first round of bailouts
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