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#31
when the republicans can scrounge up a formidable candidate i will.
#32
TheRealThing Wrote:Wow, I didn't know that!

Can I see the proof for this one?
#33
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lol you have to remember you talking to a guy with Beth the bounty hunter as his avatar Confusednicker:
#34
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#35
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:^
lol you have to remember you talking to a guy with Beth the bounty hunter as his avatar Confusednicker:


I'm trying to come up with a candidate that is anywhere close to being as far off of mainstream American values as Barack Obama. If you rolled up all the bad points of every president from Eisenhower forward to 2008, you'd still be talking light years, LOL. There is no defense for this guy. Every liberal that steps up to give that a try can only try to paint Romney as a worse choice. In essence they ceed your point but go on to make a character attack or something equally as tiresome. It's not that were Romney of low character that wouldn't be worth bringing up. The problem these goofs have in doing their slam 101, is he's a good man. His personal life, his public record as governor of Mass, and his professional life are spotless. (In fact, his record as governor is remarkable) They still keep trying though.

They can't name a single legislative triumph or successful policy, for Barack. We aren't better off these 4 years down the road from the Obama inauguration. We're much worse. Romney's successes are so superior to Obama's even the liberal clowns of the DNC are finding the challenge to be daunting. Romney is a proven legislator who balanced the budget in Mass despite looking at a 3 billion dollar deficit going in, and left them with a +700million dollar surplus. This is a real surplus now, not the so called surplus Clinton left---Clinton ran deficits throught all 8 years of his term, and one can go to the US Treasury Department and looking through the history of the total outstanding debt through Clintons term. Every year Clinton was in office, the total national debt continued to climb.

How Clinton managed to claim a surplus was that while the general operating budgets ran deficits but Clinton borrowed from numerous off budget funds to make the on budget fund a surplus.

For example, in 2000, Clinton claimed a $230B surplus, but Clinton borrowed
$152.3B from Social Security
$30.9B from Civil Service Retirement Fund
$18.5B from Federal Supplementary Medical insurance Trust Fund
$15.0B from Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund
$9.0B from the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund
$8.2B from Military Retirement Fund
$3.8B from Transportation Trust Funds
$1.8B from Employee Life Insurance & Retirement fund
$7.0B from others

Total borrowed from off budget funds $246.5B, meaning that his $230B surplus is actually a $16.5B deficit.
($246.5B borrowed - $230B claimed surplus = $16.5B actual deficit).

If there is ever a true surplus, then the national debt will go down. [Answers] Meanwhile, Romney is rather peerless fiscally.
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#38
4_real Wrote:im not a liberal, im a moderate...i do however have liberal economic views..social issues i do however ride the fence

Moderate is just a politically correct name for a liberal. Liberals, moderates, progressives- they are all the same.
#39
As I have said repeatedly, the auto industry would have recovered in a much more stable position from a Chapter 11 Bankruptcy than from the bailout. The only ones to benefit from the bailout were the unions. And, of course, that is why Kardashian did the bailout.

Chapter 11 would have allowed the auto companies to renegotiate the obscene labor contracts. The bailout did not provide for any renegotiation and left the companies with an obligation to honor all the union largess.

And, of course, the bailout paid by us, the taxpayers, will never be remotely repaid in full.

But, don't fret. Kardashian's boys in the unions are protected from loss. Kardashian's bailout had nothiong to do with helping auto companies and everything to do with protecting his unions.
#40
Sandra Fluke, America's self-proclaimed mink: the face of the Democrat Party. If Kardashian is reelected, will this pillar of virtue serve as Secretary of Taxpayer Provided Birth Control?
#41
4_real Wrote:when the republicans can scrounge up a formidable candidate i will.

LOL and you consider obama a "formidable candidate?"

What has he done that has turned this mess around?
#42
Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:Sandra Fluke, America's self-proclaimed mink: the face of the Democrat Party. If Kardashian is reelected, will this pillar of virtue serve as Secretary of Taxpayer Provided Birth Control?
It's not Sandra Fluke's face that the Democrats are exploiting. Confusednicker:
#43
WideRight05 Wrote:LOL and you consider obama a "formidable candidate?"

What has he done that has turned this mess around?

didnt say he has done anything to turn it around..gonna take more then 4 years, or 8 for that matter..lets face it, he wasnt handed a 1997 final 4 team like tubby smith was Wink
#44
4_real Wrote:didnt say he has done anything to turn it around..gonna take more then 4 years, or 8 for that matter..lets face it, he wasnt handed a 1997 final 4 team like tubby smith was Wink
If you made Obama president for life, he would not turn the economy around. What Obama was handed was the world's largest economy and best trained workforce. What the liberals like to believe is the "new normal" will only be permanent if Obama is an example of a "new normal" president. We can do better. Much better.
#45
4_real Wrote:didnt say he has done anything to turn it around..gonna take more then 4 years, or 8 for that matter..lets face it, he wasnt handed a 1997 final 4 team like tubby smith was Wink

Neither was Ronald Reagan. But does that mean he should pout and make excuses like Obama does? That didn't matter to Reagan, and he still made a big difference.

Obama can't say that he has made a difference in his four years in office, and if you believe four more years will make a difference there is something wrong.
#46
4_real Wrote:nice try, Obama saved the auto industry.




Nice try. He saved the UNION that works in the auto industry. That was his only concern.
#47
Wildcatk23 Wrote:Was that bain? Im confused now Smile

What's new junior? You've been confused since you came out of the womb a couple of years ago.

Is this not the same little kid that was rambling on about how he would be voting republican this next time around because someone in your family lost their job a few months back?

Which is it kid? Which way is the wind blowing today?
#48
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#49
Here is a great video clip of a young, skinny Michael Moron debating the late, great Milton Friedman. This clip shows a typical liberal's inability to follow simple logic.

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#50
Bob Seger Wrote:What's new junior? You've been confused since you came out of the womb a couple of years ago.

Is this not the same little kid that was rambling on about how he would be voting republican this next time around because someone in your family lost their job a few months back?

Which is it kid? Which way is the wind blowing today?

Probably both ways. WK will be a republican and 4 real will be a democrat.

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