[Avery Bullock]

It SHOULD be illegal for kids under 21 to consume in Kentucky IMHO.

[tomcatfan722000]

It SHOULD be illegal for kids under 21 to consume in Kentucky IMHO.

Is it not?

[toussaints]

After every football game!

Tousaints, I would drink with players from your team

You do that, cause I would have hung out with the cheerleaders on your team :Thumbs:

[the A team]

So beechwood is suspending kids who were on private property committing an act in which they are not being legal charged with anything? How does that work. I hope Beechwood's lawyers are ready, this will get ugly.

Beechwood high school is an independent school. An independent school is a school that is independent in its finances and governance. If Beechwood feels that their students actions are not representing the schoool in a positive way, they can punish them.

straight from the beechwood handbook


No student shall, both before, during or after any school event, on or off school premises, violate the rules and regulations of the Beechwood Board of Education. Violation of this regulation constitutes cause for suspension or expulsion of the student from school

[Crossbones]

The fact that the kids were underage and drinking is just a violation of team rules. Believe it or not, drinking under the age of 21 is NOT against the law in Kentucky. It's just illegal for someone under 21 to buy booze.

Check it out: http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/StateAn...11947.html

Under the heading "Drinking Under the Age of 21 Permitted" is Kentucky.

Sorry Avery, but you are wrong. It is against the law to drink under the age of 21 in the State of Kentucky.
http://drinkingage.procon.org/view.resou...eID=002591
http://www.alcohollaws.org/kentuckyalcohollaws.html
For the record, I am a Christian and do not drink nor do I buy alcohol . But I think if an 18 year old man or women can serve this Country in the armed forces that they should be able to drink alcohol if they want to. I support this coach and his decision to punish the ones that broke the rules of the team and the laws of Kentucky.

[E's Army]

Gutless posts everything you know. Show how big a low life you are. Tell the kids names who their parents are and where they work. Post it. If you are not gutless you will. Show how important you are. Also if you have any courage post your name. Hiding in an anonymous forum threatening to expose kids is about as gutless as it gets.

[E's Army]

Gutless you have been called out. Expose what you know including your name. Don't hide behind being a moderator.

[the A team]

Sorry Avery, but you are wrong. It is against the law to drink under the age of 21 in the State of Kentucky.
http://drinkingage.procon.org/view.resou...eID=002591
http://www.alcohollaws.org/kentuckyalcohollaws.html
For the record, I am a Christian and do not drink nor do I buy alcohol . But I think if an 18 year old man or women can serve this Country in the armed forces that they should be able to drink alcohol if they want to. I support this coach and his decision to punish the ones that broke the rules of the team and the laws of Kentucky.

Kentucky laws on other sites dont mean anything look at the Kentucky revised statute for a valid scource of ky law. (Look up KRS 244.085 then look up Kentucky definition of a minor in KRS 241.010)_

[Cat Daddy]

The Beechwood school system shouldn't have any say in the punishment of these players. If drinking didn't occur on school grounds or at a school function how can the school system hold these kids accountable. To my knowledge none of the kids were arrested, so legally how can a school system step in and punish these kids. I feel like this is an issue which needs to be dealt with by the parents not the school. If these kids were on school grounds, then by all means the school should hold these kids accountable. If my child is doing something wrong outside of school it is my responsibility to discipline my child and hold him or her accountable for their actions. I just feel like the school system is over stepping their boundries with this issue. I hope this issue gets resolved and these kids will be able to compete next week.

[Avery Bullock]

Sorry Avery, but you are wrong. It is against the law to drink under the age of 21 in the State of Kentucky.
http://drinkingage.procon.org/view.resou...eID=002591
http://www.alcohollaws.org/kentuckyalcohollaws.html
For the record, I am a Christian and do not drink nor do I buy alcohol . But I think if an 18 year old man or women can serve this Country in the armed forces that they should be able to drink alcohol if they want to. I support this coach and his decision to punish the ones that broke the rules of the team and the laws of Kentucky.

Your own source proves I am right. Click on section II, the state-by-state explanation of underage drinking laws. I think you will find in the Kentucky section:

*Although underage consumption of alcohol is not explicitly prohibited in the law, underage possession of alcohol is prohibited without exceptions. According to the Alcohol Policy Information System (APIS), "Possession and consumption are closely linked because consumption generally requires possession."

I other words, if Kid A has a beer in his hand and pours it into Kid B's mouth, is Kid B guilty of a crime? He never possessed the beer, just consumed it. By the letter of the law, my point is correct.

[Real Badman]

I had a beer before I turned 21. I must be a horrible person. Guys, just don't do anything stupid.

[the A team]

The Beechwood school system shouldn't have any say in the punishment of these players. If drinking didn't occur on school grounds or at a school function how can the school system hold these kids accountable. To my knowledge none of the kids were arrested, so legally how can a school system step in and punish these kids. I feel like this is an issue which needs to be dealt with by the parents not the school. If these kids were on school grounds, then by all means the school should hold these kids accountable. If my child is doing something wrong outside of school it is my responsibility to discipline my child and hold him or her accountable for their actions. I just feel like the school system is over stepping their boundries with this issue. I hope this issue gets resolved and these kids will be able to compete next week.

they are an independent school and govern themselves once you go to an independent school you have to go by the rules in their handbook.

straight from the handbook


No student shall, both before, during or after any school event, on or off school premises, violate the rules and regulations of the Beechwood Board of Education. Violation of this regulation constitutes cause for suspension or expulsion of the student from school.

[Crossbones]

Kentucky laws on other sites dont mean anything look at the Kentucky revised statute for a valid scource of ky law. (Look up KRS 244.085 then look up Kentucky definition of a minor in KRS 241.010)_

(3) A person under 21 years of age shall not possess for his or her own use or purchase
or attempt to purchase or have another purchase for him or her any alcoholic
beverages. No person shall aid or assist any person under 21 years of age in
purchasing or having delivered or served to him or her any alcoholic beverages.
The law plainly states a person under 21 years of age shall not possess alcohol for his or her own use.

[Crossbones]

Your own source proves I am right. Click on section II, the state-by-state explanation of underage drinking laws. I think you will find in the Kentucky section:

*Although underage consumption of alcohol is not explicitly prohibited in the law, underage possession of alcohol is prohibited without exceptions. According to the Alcohol Policy Information System (APIS), "Possession and consumption are closely linked because consumption generally requires possession."

I other words, if Kid A has a beer in his hand and pours it into Kid B's mouth, is Kid B guilty of a crime? He never possessed the beer, just consumed it. By the letter of the law, my point is correct.

My source does not prove you are right. If you read it in its entirety is said Kentucky was one of the states that did not make an exception. My first link is not working for some reason, but as the A team posted in KRS 244.085 it is plainly against the law for a person under the age of 21 to be in possession of alcohol. You have to be in possession to consume. I'm not trying to argue the point at all. But if a person under the age of 21 is caught with alcohol on there person or in there blood they can be arrested and or ticketed. And according to your example both would be cited.

[toussaints]

Look, I had a few cold ones before I turned 21.

Did I die from it? No
Did it affect my education? No
Did it ruin my chances at doing something good with my life? No

Was it ok for me to drink? Hell NO

I can make a book of dumb things I did before I turned 21, most of which involved alcohol or things I wasn't supposed to have. I didn't drink responsibly, and I never met anyone under 21 who drank responsibly. Just because I did it, doesn't make it ok. The only reason this story is a big deal is because 1. 19 players were suspended or kicked off the team and 2. it made the news. These kids deserve the punishment and I hope they learn a lot from it.

[mysonis55]

Hold up, wait just a minute, lets get this correct. YES, it is illegal to consume alcoholic beverage under the age of 21 yrs in Ky unless it has been provided by your parents for the purpose of religious beliefs or a back yard family outing type event. I am quiet certain of that. Quoting one KY REVISED STATUTE does not mean that all the laws coincide with that. Laws come and go and are constantly revised.

[mysonis55]

E's army, I do not know gut or you. I do agree with the coach making whatever decision he chooses to make in this case. I do not however think that what one school decides to do shall be the standard for another, so I am not say Wburg coach should have done what he did. I will say this though, I do not like the name calling and cursing on this site. I think you could get your point across in a more acceptable manner. Remember our good Lord said to turn the other cheek. Sometimes it hurts more than others to do that, but you will be the better man for doing so. Not meant to be a knock on you or your school and I hope you dont take it that way. I just would like to see us be able to converse without all of this stuff. Remember, some of these kids will read this stuff. Let's try to let this be a positive thing for them.

[RunItUpTheGut]

^
I dont know why little E gets so mad.
Some people tend to forget what this site is for. DISCUSSION.
Calling someone a low life, no so much. But it just goes to show the two sides of this county.

I will no longer say anything about Wburg, as a couple of you are obviously kids and probably players, i will however continue to wish Wburg success in the playoffs. My take on here against these rabbid fair weather fans is moronic at best, however, having fun and talking trash, is in essence, the entire purpose and reason for a message board.
Before any Wburg fans think im really getting after you, open up a few other threads from teams a little further north is you want to here trash talking and putting smaller teams down. There is a highlands thread once a week dedicated to nothing but the bashing of Cov Cath.
I'll continue on about my business, but i will not stay silent when called out.

[Stardust]

Look, I had a few cold ones before I turned 21.

Did I die from it? No
Did it affect my education? No
Did it ruin my chances at doing something good with my life? No

Was it ok for me to drink? Hell NO

I can make a book of dumb things I did before I turned 21, most of which involved alcohol or things I wasn't supposed to have. I didn't drink responsibly, and I never met anyone under 21 who drank responsibly. Just because I did it, doesn't make it ok. The only reason this story is a big deal is because 1. 19 players were suspended or kicked off the team and 2. it made the news. These kids deserve the punishment and I hope they learn a lot from it.

Fair, I can't argue with any of that. As a High School coach, I have to preach the same things! I know when we got in trouble, our football coach made sure we NEVER forgot it. His discipline would be more severe than being KICKED OFF the team!

Now, the school would have dictated my discipline and he would have gotten suspended!

[toussaints]

Fair, I can't argue with any of that. As a High School coach, I have to preach the same things! I know when we got in trouble, our football coach made sure we NEVER forgot it. His discipline would be more severe than being KICKED OFF the team!

Now, the school would have dictated my discipline and he would have gotten suspended!

and I hate that, the coach gets punished for doing the right thing. some school admins are just way too soft

[WKUtoVILLEbilly]

article said the party was held in a Ludlow administrators home/ property. He claims that he didn't know there was drinking or that the "gathering: would get too large. He blamed social media. what a disconnect from the 21st century if you seem to overlook what happens in your own home.

[MayfieldCardinal]

Mayfield is so inside Beechwood's heads that we have drove them to drinking

[sstack]

Talked to someone close to the program today and they stated about 7-8 of the players were starters. Does this cause Beechwood to lose the game tonight?

[jetpilot]

Mayfield is so inside Beechwood's heads that we have drove them to drinking

LOL! :Clap:

[mysonis55]

NO!!!!!:popcorn: Beechwood is a program. They will win this game going away. They will win next week as well.:thanks: The question will be who do they get back before they play Frankfort. If they get enough back by then, they can still upset Frankfort again.:welcome: Do not give up on the wood. If you get caught sleeping on them, you will have a long off season.:thanks:

[E's Army]

Gutless I hope you honor your word and disappear. Myson it is never appropriate for an adult to expose children to ridicule on an internet site. Only a coward would do that or threaten to do that in an anonymous board. Go be sanctimonious somewhere else. This is a board for discussion not to belittle children and be a cyber bully.