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State finals
#61
mysonis55 Wrote:I promise I would not whine about going to state, even if they made us drive to Texas. I have to go to Richmond about once per year anyway, for something that isn't as much fun as football.
:ref2:not texas,bowling green fine with me.or somewhere in lexington maybe some uk coaches will show some interest in these player.but if williamsburg could makeit to the state final and it was in texas i would go.:Hammer3:
#62
mysonis55 Wrote:I guess some of yall don't enjoy the trips as much as we do. We kind of make it part of the fun. Our bunch will be deciding months in advance whether they want to take the fan bus, car pool with someone and drive straight through, drive alone and stay the night or drive alone and drive straight through. We usually have favorite places to eat along the way or whatever. I guess we actually enjoy that part as much as the game. I dont know maybe it is because our closest district game is 30 miles one way. Our furthest is 2.5 hours. For Regionals every other year its a 3 hour trip. For Semi Finals every other year its 5 plus hours one way and if we are so fortunate state is 2.5 hours one way. If it was in Louisville it only added about an hour to our trip. We actually have fans that will go up to state every year, whether or not we are there. I think the personnel of KHSAA are doing all they can to make the state games fair, accessible to all, reasonably priced and fun. I really think that it is a slap in the face of the people that work so hard all year long on this type of stuff for us to get on here and continue to question every decision they make.
Who's we? Mayfield? The Belfry/Central game had over 1100 more people in attendance than the 1A game and I would guess 90% where Belfry fans. We (Belfry) travel as good as if not better than any fan base in the state. We had by far the longest drive of any at finals and still had more fans than you all did only being 2 hours away. If yall like driving so much why don't we just have the games at Belfry. Cam Stadium could hold all the fans that made that drive.
#63
Hence the difference between 1a and 3a. That is why we are 1a, we are smaller. Smaller school means less parents, less fans. That should be a given. I am not in any way attacking Belfry or any other school. My point simply is that the men and women that work hard on this stuff all year long deserve more than to hear those of us, who are not really a part of any team, complaining about every little aspect of their work. This is apparently the best system they can come up with, we should just enjoy it and support our teams. If yall had that many fans there, then this must not have been too much on an inconvenience for them.
#64
mysonis55 Wrote:Hence the difference between 1a and 3a. That is why we are 1a, we are smaller. Smaller school means less parents, less fans. That should be a given. I am not in any way attacking Belfry or any other school. My point simply is that the men and women that work hard on this stuff all year long deserve more than to hear those of us, who are not really a part of any team, complaining about every little aspect of their work. This is apparently the best system they can come up with, we should just enjoy it and support our teams. If yall had that many fans there, then this must not have been too much on an inconvenience for them.

Bull!!Pikeville is a 1A school and they would have brought in that many fans. Being a 1a school is no excuse. You should know that. The point I was making is that Belfry fans drove over 5 hours one way and still outnumbered your fans only driving 2 hours. We are dedicated and support our teams. The men an women that work hard on this all year long are getting paid well to do so. As a tax payer we have every right to want some parity in the location of where the finals are played and they should hear the masses. Some one like you that has nothing to do with the teams, why are you worried about us out east wanting a little less travel time?:eyeroll: Again, you will never get it because it is all good for you, being in your back yard.
#65
mysonis55 Wrote:I guess some of yall don't enjoy the trips as much as we do. We kind of make it part of the fun. Our bunch will be deciding months in advance whether they want to take the fan bus, car pool with someone and drive straight through, drive alone and stay the night or drive alone and drive straight through. We usually have favorite places to eat along the way or whatever. I guess we actually enjoy that part as much as the game. I dont know maybe it is because our closest district game is 30 miles one way. Our furthest is 2.5 hours. For Regionals every other year its a 3 hour trip. For Semi Finals every other year its 5 plus hours one way and if we are so fortunate state is 2.5 hours one way. If it was in Louisville it only added about an hour to our trip. We actually have fans that will go up to state every year, whether or not we are there. I think the personnel of KHSAA are doing all they can to make the state games fair, accessible to all, reasonably priced and fun. I really think that it is a slap in the face of the people that work so hard all year long on this type of stuff for us to get on here and continue to question every decision they make.

You're a riot! Maybe those people need a slap somewhere. The games still need to be centrally located or near it. Louisville was OK, it was the largest city in the state and the games were at a more prestigious site. Lexington or EKU would be great. Is Bowling Green in Kentucky? Put the games at the best site available nearest the center of the state and be fair. That's the best you can do. Richmond doesn't have a Corvette factory but you don't need one to play football. I mean, shouldn't the KHSAA be interested in teaching student-athletes about fairness? They alternate east-west in the interest of fairness in the playoffs, why not do that or put the games in the center of the state for the finals? Gee. Fairness is not your forte.
#66
Whatever, I believe I just said I would and have drove just about anywhere to watch. I also liked Louisville, but they didn't want it any more. They went with Bowling Green because it was the only offer. It is a good site. It may be further for some than others, If it isn't in Louisville it is gonna be. That is unless we redistrict our state and make the borders into a circle or some Sh>>. It will never be central. If you guys don't like it, volunteer, get on the board and vote.
#67
It dont really matter to me. I will drive to Richmond any time to watch the cards beat up on an eastern "MOUNTAIN" team!!!!!
#68
Dang!!! You drug this up from 20 days ago to post after you yourself posted last? :popcorn:
#69
mysonis55 Wrote:It dont really matter to me. I will drive to Richmond any time to watch the cards beat up on an eastern "MOUNTAIN" team!!!!!

like they did last yr right?
#70
Crossbones Wrote:Dang!!! You drug this up from 20 days ago to post after you yourself posted last? :popcorn:

Guess who got a Satanic Bible for Christmas.
#71
MtnHSFootballFan Wrote:Guess who got a Satanic Bible for Christmas.

??????
#72
Crossbones Wrote:??????

I didn't mean you.
#73
Bowling Green has done a decent job in my opinion, better than I expected. However, I agree a more centrally located site would be appropriate.
#74
MtnHSFootballFan Wrote:I didn't mean you.

:Thumbs: Gotcha!!
#75
Crossbones Wrote:Bull!!Pikeville is a 1A school and they would have brought in that many fans. Being a 1a school is no excuse. You should know that. The point I was making is that Belfry fans drove over 5 hours one way and still outnumbered your fans only driving 2 hours. We are dedicated and support our teams. The men an women that work hard on this all year long are getting paid well to do so. As a tax payer we have every right to want some parity in the location of where the finals are played and they should hear the masses. Some one like you that has nothing to do with the teams, why are you worried about us out east wanting a little less travel time?:eyeroll: Again, you will never get it because it is all good for you, being in your back yard.

2012 1A Championship attendance 6038 Fairview vs Mayfield
1987 1A Championship attendance 3200 Pikeville vs Russellville
#76
footballfever Wrote:2012 1A Championship attendance 6038 Fairview vs Mayfield
1987 1A Championship attendance 3200 Pikeville vs Russellville

Big difference from 1987 to 2012! During 1987 the trip to anywhere out of Pikeville was about 2 hours longer because of less roads being built. Now, we have fourlane highways leading anywhere in state. During 1987 year all numbers where down compared to 2012. Nice try though.
#77
Crossbones Wrote:Big difference from 1987 to 2012! During 1987 the trip to anywhere out of Pikeville was about 2 hours longer because of less roads being built. Now, we have fourlane highways leading anywhere in state. During 1987 year all numbers where down compared to 2012. Nice try though.

Average gas price was 89 cents. Nice try though.
#78
OK here's the deal, if your griping because the title game isn't close to your location then your missing the boat. The road trip and anticipation is he best part besides the game. It doesnt matter how far you have to go...
#79
If the issue is to be more central to the state and having an artificial surface, EKU or Morehead State could each host Finals. If the games were broken into 2 sets of 3 or 3 sets of 2 it could work.

BUT... if all 6 Finals are going to be played at one site, WKU is the only site which makes any sense (outside Louisville) because there will be a number of teams/parents/fans who stay overnight. Neither Richmond nor Morehead have enough hotel space nearby for that many folks at once.

It isn't a question of fairness, it's a question of logistics.


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#80
footballfever Wrote:Average gas price was 89 cents. Nice try though.

Gas prices have nothing to do with it, at least not then. It had more to do with a trip to Louisville from Pikeville in 1987 would have taken 6-6.5 hours to drive compared to now where it only takes 4 hours. If the finals would have been in Bowling Green in 1987 it would have taken almost 8 hours to drive. If Pikeville would have made it to state this year there attendance numbers would have been comparable to this years Mayfield game, probably more. Comparing numbers from 25 years ago is laughable. Again, nice try though... :eyeroll:
#81
What a great experiences for all the kids it would be to get to play at Papa Johns. As well as being more central.
#82
left tacckel #65 Wrote:What a great experiences for all the kids it would be to get to play at Papa Johns. As well as being more central.


With all due respect, the -only- physical advantage to Papa John's over WKU is crowd capacity. There is no sentimentality attached to playing there - it's just a big place.
#83
oneijoe Wrote:If the issue is to be more central to the state and having an artificial surface, Morehead State could each host Finals. If the games were broken into 2 sets of 3 or 3 sets of 2 it could work.

Morehead, really? that leaves me scratching my head. It is not central at all.

Well heck, you forgot to add Murray, who has a larger, newer facility than Morehead and is basically just a centrally located.

I have watched Mayfield play in state title games in every venue that has hosted. Lexington, Richmond, Louisville and Bowling Green and honestly I enjoyed going to all and never gave a second thought to where it was being played as I was just happy to be going. Surely most everyone that really cares feels the same. I would actually enjoy seeing the game rotated across locations year to year including Morehead and Murray but I also realize that is not realistic.
#84
adopted purple Wrote:Plus, Bowling Geeen is a perfect fit for the finals.

yeah right, having the games in the far corner of the state every year is fair to everyone. it should be in lou or lex area (1/2 the pop of kentucky) so its not a 6 hr drive for 3/4 of the teams. and if not one of those areas it should at least rotate around.
#85
chicken_hawks101 Wrote:OK here's the deal, if your griping because the title game isn't close to your location then your missing the boat. The road trip and anticipation is he best part besides the game. It doesnt matter how far you have to go...

Then why dont we just have the games in the Astro-dome? not everyone is 20 years old and/or has way too much time on their hands. and not everyone can afford a hotel room for a hs football game. Think about it for like a second and you'll see.

I cant go to BG and watch the bluebirds win state every year cause i cant take off work for hs football. when the games were in Lou i went cause i could make it work. I dont have kids on the team, just a x-player/fan. Im sure there are a thousands stories like that all-over the state. if the games were in NKY (population and centrality similar to BG) you would feel the same way.

If you have the games centrally you dont need as many hotels DURRRR!
#86
birdman44 Wrote:yeah right, having the games in the far corner of the state every year is fair to everyone. it should be in lou or lex area (1/2 the pop of kentucky) so its not a 6 hr drive for 3/4 of the teams. and if not one of those areas it should at least rotate around.
Only 2 (Belfry/Fairview) teams had long drives. 6 of the 12 teams in the finals had around a 100 mile trip or less to the finals in Bowling Green. BG is far from a "far corner of the state". It is certainly more centrally located to 1/2 the population of the entire state than Lexington is.
#87
MayfieldCardinal Wrote:Morehead, really? that leaves me scratching my head. It is not central at all.

Well heck, you forgot to add Murray, who has a larger, newer facility than Morehead and is basically just a centrally located.

I have watched Mayfield play in state title games in every venue that has hosted. Lexington, Richmond, Louisville and Bowling Green and honestly I enjoyed going to all and never gave a second thought to where it was being played as I was just happy to be going. Surely most everyone that really cares feels the same. I would actually enjoy seeing the game rotated across locations year to year including Morehead and Murray but I also realize that is not realistic.

:eyeroll: For someone to think Murray is more centrally located in the State of Kentucky as Morehead is well, crazy. Murray is 270 miles to lexington, Morehead is 65. Again, coming from someone who has the games played in their backyard, I'm sure it's fine with you. :HitWall: When where the games ever held in Lexington and Richmond? I'm 41 and the games to my knowledge where always in Louisville, then Bowling Green. In 1979, Belfry played in Louisville.
#88
Paducah and Pikeville are central...let's play there Confusednicker:
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#89
Thunder Lips Wrote:Only 2 (Belfry/Fairview) teams had long drives. 6 of the 12 teams in the finals had around a 100 mile trip or less to the finals in Bowling Green. BG is far from a "far corner of the state". It is certainly more centrally located to 1/2 the population of the entire state than Lexington is.

If every team drives in to the state championships from the same hwy going the same direction, it's not centrally located. the avg travel time is more for BG for the population of KY than Lex or Lou, period. its a difference of an hour and a half i would guess, which is a 3-4 hr swing driving wise both ways. back in the 90s when the games were in Lou not many teams stayed in hotels, they just drove home. Is this whole thing a BG pledge drive? check out a map, compare the cities to the south west of BG to the cites to north east. you'll get it.
#90
Crossbones Wrote::eyeroll: For someone to think Murray is more centrally located in the State of Kentucky as Morehead is well, crazy. Murray is 270 miles to lexington, Morehead is 65. Again, coming from someone who has the games played in their backyard, I'm sure it's fine with you. :HitWall: When where the games ever held in Lexington and Richmond? I'm 41 and the games to my knowledge where always in Louisville, then Bowling Green. In 1979, Belfry played in Louisville.


You got the jest of the point about Morehead and its location. Clearly it will not ever get consideration due to its location being so far east.

The games were in Lexington at Commonwealth in 76 and then moved to Richmond in 77 and 78. (also in 73 and 74 I think). The were also played at UK's old Stoll field usually prior to that but were held at WKU once in the early 70's i think and in Louisville once somewhere back then.

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