[TheRealThing]

Prove it please. Don't quote a poll as proof, they have been known to be wrong.

If you can't prove a majority of Americans favor gay marriage I should call you a liar...but I won't.

As has been demonstrated with the plethora of Mother Jonesesque posts/links of late. It isn't what they can prove, it's the way they sling the mud. :biggrin:

[TheRealVille]

Prove it please. Don't quote a poll as proof, they have been known to be wrong.

If you can't prove a majority of Americans favor gay marriage I should call you a liar...but I won't.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safa...8&oe=UTF-8

You have to go by polls, since that's the only way to get an idea of how America feels, or you get people like TRT, that just pull an answer out of their ass.

[TheRealVille]

More Americans See Gay, Lesbian Orientation as Birth Factor
PRINCETON, NJ -- Currently, 47% of Americans view being gay or lesbian as a sexual orientation individuals are born with, while 33% instead believe it is due to external factors such as upbringing or environment. That 14-percentage-point gap in favor of "nature" over "nurture" is the largest Gallup has measured to date. As recently as two years ago, the public was evenly divided

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/162569/americ...actor.aspx


Which leads us to this news article.

Parents sue South Carolina for surgically making child female

(CNN) -- The adoptive parents of a child born with male and female organs say South Carolina mutilated their son by choosing a gender and having his male genitalia surgically removed.
The surgery took place when the child was 16 months old and a ward of the state, according to a lawsuit filed by the parents against three doctors and several members of the South Carolina Department of Social Services.
The child's biological mother was deemed unfit, and the biological father had apparently abandoned him, according to the suit. So others made the decision.
The child, now 8 years old, feels more like a boy and "wants to be a normal boy," said Pamela Crawford, the boy's adoptive mother.
"It's become more and more difficult, just as his identity has become more clearly male, the idea that mutilation was done to him had become more and more real," she said in a video released by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is assisting in the case.
"There was no medical reason that this decision had to be made at this time."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/health/chi...?hpt=hp_t5

[Harry Rex Vonner]

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/162569/americ...actor.aspx


Which leads us to this news article.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/health/chi...?hpt=hp_t5

Southern Poverty Law Center. Now there is a real subversive group of malcontents. As an attorney, I am quite familiar with the destruction to the United States Constitution perpetrated by that strange group of oddballs and misfits.

[TheRealVille]

Southern Poverty Law Center. Now there is a real subversive group of malcontents. As an attorney, I am quite familiar with the destruction to the United States Constitution perpetrated by that strange group of oddballs and misfits.

Why keep drawing away from the story. Are you giving the "ok" to the actions of SC by your diversion?

[TheRealThing]

http://www.google.com/search?client=safa...8&oe=UTF-8

You have to go by polls, since that's the only way to get an idea of how America feels, or you get people like TRT, that just pull an answer out of their ass.

I know it's not fashionable anymore to think for one's self. However, that is the course I will take regardless of your protests and whining. At least George W is getting a rest while you're obsessed with my opinions.

So, as we see by your post, you must adopt the ideas of others (polls) to feel comfortable. In other words, like I have said, your opinion was given to you and is perpetuated by others. Hence, like Samuel Goldwyn likes to say, "When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."

[TheRealVille]

I know it's not fashionable anymore to think for one's self. However, that is the course I will take regardless of your protests and whining. At least George W is getting a rest while you're obsessed with my opinions.

So, as we see by your post, you must adopt the ideas of others (polls) to feel comfortable. In other words, like I have said, your opinion was given to you and is perpetuated by others. Hence, like Samuel Goldwyn likes to say, "When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."

So, how do you get your knowledge that the majority of Americans don't favor gay marriage, since you say the majority don't? What insight into the American opinion are you gaining up there in Boyd county that says the polls are lying?

[WideMiddle03]

So, how do you get your knowledge that the majority of Americans don't favor gay marriage, since you say the majority don't? What insight into the American opinion are you gaining up there in Boyd county that says the polls are lying?

and just what insight into the american opinions do you have to prove your case
when it comes up to a vote its not pretty usually
even the people of california voted against it :biglmao:

[WideMiddle03]

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[TheRealVille]

and just what insight into the american opinions do you have to prove your case
when it comes up to a vote its not pretty usually
even the people of california voted against it :biglmao:

That was then, this is now. It's changing at a rapid pace. Look at the states(12 & DC) going legal on gay marriage, and, look at where the polls lean. It's been 5 years since CA voted on it, and a majority of CA citizens say they wish they had voted the other way on Prop 8. You will find, as more and more polls come out, that in fact a majority of Americans favor same sex marriage. You have to have polls to find where America is leaning on topics, because you can't get a grasp of all of America by just talking to folks in KY. A blind man can see where this is going.

[WideMiddle03]

That was then, this is now. It's changing at a rapid pace. Look at the states(12 & DC) going legal on gay marriage, and, look at where the polls lean. It's been 5 years since CA voted on it, and a majority of CA citizens say they wish they had voted the other way on Prop 8. You will find, as more and more polls come out, that in fact a majority of Americans favor same sex marriage. You have to have polls to find where America is leaning on topics, because you can't get a grasp of all of America by just talking to folks in KY. A blind man can see where this is going.

ah, it just gets better and better!!!! :biglmao: :biglmao: :biglmao:
of course the liberal media polls say that
im sure you and wildcat would like to get married

[TheRealThing]

So, how do you get your knowledge that the majority of Americans don't favor gay marriage, since you say the majority don't? What insight into the American opinion are you gaining up there in Boyd county that says the polls are lying?

RV, IMO, you've been willingly propagandized by the left. You share a kind of contempt with them for what is considered to be traditional American values. Those values are based in scripture which, you reject. You've therefore spent the last how ever many years, with "itching ears", soaking up the left wing's secular humanistic rationale. That is your choice and your right and I'm fine with it. But, your insistence that the left's principles and liberalisms are mainstream is just not true.

In fact, I went to the trouble to demonstrate the liberal strategy, to dupe folks into thinking the fight to retain any semblance of Christian principles is over and that resistance to their teachings by the American masses was futile. That is to say they have declared victory before having achieved anything like it, and what they are waging is a propaganda campaign to that end. And, although it was entirely predictable (if very unfortunate), the strategy has worked on folks like you.

On the other hand, we have organizations like the Tea Party and other conservative efforts who counter the liberal message. Despite claims to the contrary, these 'counter efforts' are always legal, and respectful of all laws, carried out with respect and observance of the rights of local residents where events and rallies are held.

Reasonable people know that hitting that Google button, and happening to find a biased website which states that the majority favors gay marriage is far short of proof. Next time you're at the store or someplace not surrounded by your crew, ask somebody that doesn't have more than 10 body piercings and doesn't have any needle tracks in their arm if they're for gay marriage. I know for a fact, that the majority of Americans are not in favor of gay rights. Lawmakers and wannabe's are making some real political hay with running on those issues now, but, only in some very blue states. Let some hack come out in a red state and try that and see how far they get.

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[TheRealVille]

RV, IMO, you've been willingly propagandized by the left. You share a kind of contempt with them for what is considered to be traditional American values. Those values are based in scripture which, you reject. You've therefore spent the last how ever many years, with "itching ears", soaking up the left wing's secular humanistic rationale. That is your choice and your right and I'm fine with it. But, your insistence that the left's principles and liberalisms are mainstream is just not true.

In fact, I went to the trouble to demonstrate the liberal strategy, to dupe folks into thinking the fight to retain any semblance of Christian principles is over and that resistance to their teachings by the American masses was futile. That is to say they have declared victory before having achieved anything like it, and what they are waging is a propaganda campaign to that end. And, although it was entirely predictable (if very unfortunate), the strategy has worked on folks like you.

On the other hand, we have organizations like the Tea Party and other conservative efforts who counter the liberal message. Despite claims to the contrary, these 'counter efforts' are always legal, and respectful of all laws, carried out with respect and observance of the rights of local residents where events and rallies are held.

Reasonable people know that hitting that Google button, and happening to find a biased website which states that the majority favors gay marriage is far short of proof. Next time you're at the store or someplace not surrounded by your crew, ask somebody that doesn't have more than 10 body piercings and doesn't have any needle tracks in their arm if they're for gay marriage. I know for a fact, that the majority of Americans are not in favor of gay rights. Lawmakers and wannabe's are making some real political hay with running on those issues now, but, only in some very blue states. Let some hack come out in a red state and try that and see how far they get.

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That map means nothing. The red areas are less populated than a lot of the blue areas. You are smart enough to know that. You have to go by numbers(population), not colors on a map.

[WideMiddle03]

That map means nothing. The red areas are less populated than a lot of the blue areas. You are smart enough to know that. You have to go by numbers(population), not colors on a map.

do u read posts b4 u respond 2 them?

[TheRealVille]

^ You are a troll that is barely smart enough to even be a troll

[TheRealThing]

That map means nothing. The red areas are less populated than a lot of the blue areas. You are smart enough to know that. You have to go by numbers(population), not colors on a map.

That is a county by county map of the presidential election results of 2012. The function of the Electoral College and the opinion of the overall populace are about as far apart as is possible. No amount of evidence would change your mind because you are 'willfully ignorant' of the truth. The map is a factual representation of where the concentrations of people who think like you do live. At any rate, nothing that contradicts your view is going to get past that liberal filter so, I expected nothing less than total denial on your part.

[TheRealVille]

That is a county by county map of the presidential election results of 2012. The function of the Electoral College and the opinion of the overall populace are about as far apart as is possible. No amount of evidence would change your mind because you are 'willfully ignorant' of the truth. The map is a factual representation of where the concentrations of people who think like you do live. At any rate, nothing that contradicts your view is going to get past that liberal filter so, I expected nothing less than total denial on your part.

Like I said, a county by county map means nothing, if the population numbers don't match. You would do well to learn that a less populated red area doesn't compare to a more populated blue area. Give us a rundown of the popular votes of that election that you are so fond of showing that map from. Ahh hell, i'll do it for you, to stop you from twisting it. 65,910,437 to 60,932,795. I'm seriously beginning to wonder if you think others are too stupid to catch you in your lies, or you are stupid enough to believe your own lies.

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Like I said, a county by county map means nothing, if the population numbers don't match. You would do well to learn that a less populated red area doesn't compare to a more populated blue area. Give us a rundown of the popular votes of that election that you are so fond of showing that map from. Ahh hell, i'll do it for you, to stop you from twisting it. 65,910,437 to 60,932,795. I'm seriously beginning to wonder if you think others are too stupid to catch you in your lies, or you are stupid enough to believe your own lies.

therer's some pretty stupid

[TheRealThing]

Like I said, a county by county map means nothing, if the population numbers don't match. You would do well to learn that a less populated red area doesn't compare to a more populated blue area. Give us a rundown of the popular votes of that election that you are so fond of showing that map from. Ahh hell, i'll do it for you, to stop you from twisting it. 65,910,437 to 60,932,795. I'm seriously beginning to wonder if you think others are too stupid to catch you in your lies, or you are stupid enough to believe your own lies.

Oh I don't doubt there are many things that you wonder about. The map means that birds of a feather cluster together I suppose. Don't you feel the call to migrate even now?

[TheRealVille]

Oh I don't doubt there are many things that you wonder about. The map means that birds of a feather cluster together I suppose. Don't you feel the call to migrate even now?

I don't wonder about the map you try to post every few weeks. That map represents a 5 million vote majority of blue. Your misrepresentation is obvious, and flagrant. Of course, you are already a proven liar, so this misrepresentation of the truth shouldn't surprise anybody.

[WideMiddle03]

^ You are a troll that is barely smart enough to even be a troll

is that your opinion or did you copy and paste that from somewhere like u do all ur other posts

[TheRealThing]

I don't wonder about the map you try to post every few weeks. That map represents a 5 million vote majority of blue. Your misrepresentation is obvious, and flagrant. Of course, you are already a proven liar, so this misrepresentation of the truth shouldn't surprise anybody.

Reading your posts reminds me of a girl fighting with somebody on FB. Circular psychosis. You got three of four things you like to harp on and you never stray far from the reservation. Obviously I represent your greatest threat and therefore the obsessive compulsive bashing all the time. And, this idea you harbor in thinking so many line up with you on here is ludacris. Always speaking as if hundreds of admirers are enthralled with the magic of your wit. LOL, I must be missing something cause I ain't seeing it.

[WideMiddle03]

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[WideMiddle03]

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trv and wildcat

[TheRealVille]

Reading your posts reminds me of a girl fighting with somebody on FB. Circular psychosis. You got three of four things you like to harp on and you never stray far from the reservation. Obviously I represent your greatest threat and therefore the obsessive compulsive bashing all the time. And, this idea you harbor in thinking so many line up with you on here is ludacris. Always speaking as if hundreds of admirers are enthralled with the magic of your wit. LOL, I must be missing something cause I ain't seeing it.

You are no threat at all. My problem with you is the way you misrepresent facts, and that 2012 popular vote map from the Presidential election is proof positive. That has zero to do with your answer of "the majority of America isn't in favor of gay marriage". You are dishonest in just about every point you try to make on this board. My disdain comes from the fact that you try to portray that your knowledge is way above others here, when you clearly don't have a clue on what you speak, other than your own opinion, and misrepresentation of facts.

[TheRealThing]

You are no threat at all. My problem with you is the way you misrepresent facts, and that 2012 popular vote map from the Presidential election is proof positive. That has zero to do with your answer of "the majority of America isn't in favor of gay marriage". You are dishonest in just about every point you try to make on this board. My disdain comes from the fact that you try to portray that your knowledge is way above others here, when you clearly don't have a clue on what you speak, other than your own opinion, and misrepresentation of facts.

Right, that's why the majority of your posts are directed at me. :biglmao:

[TheRealVille]

Right, that's why the majority of your posts are directed at me. :biglmao:

As long as you misrepresent facts, I'll call you out on it, the same as I would anybody else. You just happen to do a lot more misrepresenting of facts than most on here.

[SKINNYPIG]

As long as you misrepresent facts, I'll call you out on it, the same as I would anybody else. You just happen to do a lot more misrepresenting of facts than most on here.

Have you seen anything out of President Obama and his admin that looks like they might be misrepresenting facts lately? If yes, why haven't you called them out on here? My question is a legitimate one TRV, I hope you give an honest answer.

[RunItUpTheGut]

If Obama keeps getting new scandals daily, his entire presidency is going to be about scandals.

[TheRealVille]

Have you seen anything out of President Obama and his admin that looks like they might be misrepresenting facts lately? If yes, why haven't you called them out on here? My question is a legitimate one TRV, I hope you give an honest answer.

What I've saw is some things out of a couple of different departments, and a republican "witch hunt" over Benghazi. I wouldn't say he's been the most productive President, but I give him slack on that because republican in Washington block every move he tries. Except for the IRS deal, a lot of the other stuff is "mole hills". He is as mad about the IRS as you are, and the appropriate actions are being taken.