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Corbin 2013
Looking forward to a exciting season. Taylor Waddle will be a big part of the Redhounds this season.
Old Redhound Wrote:Looking forward to a exciting season. Taylor Waddle will be a big part of the Redhounds this season.

They need to let Waddle run the ball more, maybe get Jackson involved in the offense some as well. Will Waddle be behind center or will they move him to a slot back type position where he can get the ball in open space?
SEKYFAN Wrote:They need to let Waddle run the ball more, maybe get Jackson involved in the offense some as well. Will Waddle be behind center or will they move him to a slot back type position where he can get the ball in open space?

From what I have been told Taylor will be behind center and Waddle will line up in a lot of different places running back, slot, receiver, and at QB in some formations.
goBIGblue82 Wrote:From what I have been told Taylor will be behind center and Waddle will line up in a lot of different places running back, slot, receiver, and at QB in some formations.

Who will play on the offensive line? I can see Henson and Lane as the guards, Farris as the center and Ingle at one of the tackle spots. Any idea who the other candidates are for playing time?

If Corbin gets good line play, they will have a good season.
SEKYFAN Wrote:Who will play on the offensive line? I can see Henson and Lane as the guards, Farris as the center and Ingle at one of the tackle spots. Any idea who the other candidates are for playing time?

If Corbin gets good line play, they will have a good season.

Along with the ones you mentioned, I think Liford(Sr.), Hampton(So.), and Eaton(Jr.) will be the most likely candidates to start or get PT. Sure would be nice to still have Eubanks and Rollins they would add much needed depth.
goBIGblue82 Wrote:Along with the ones you mentioned, I think Liford(Sr.), Hampton(So.), and Eaton(Jr.) will be the most likely candidates to start or get PT. Sure would be nice to still have Eubanks and Rollins they would add much needed depth.

Where did they go?
goBIGblue82 Wrote:Along with the ones you mentioned, I think Liford(Sr.), Hampton(So.), and Eaton(Jr.) will be the most likely candidates to start or get PT. Sure would be nice to still have Eubanks and Rollins they would add much needed depth.

Someone told me that Eubanks was possibly going to play, along with Vorbeck and the other Reedy twin. Have they decided not to play again?
SEKYFAN Wrote:Someone told me that Eubanks was possibly going to play, along with Vorbeck and the other Reedy twin. Have they decided not to play again?

Vorbeck, Grissell, Reedy, and Middleton are all back. However, Vorbeck suffered a torn labrum and will be out all season. Eubanks won't be back. He enjoys the free time for hunting and fishing too much.
johnnyd Wrote:Where did they go?

One quit, one transferred.
Rollins went to South Laurel and has started since a freshman.
goBIGblue82 Wrote:From what I have been told Taylor will be behind center and Waddle will line up in a lot of different places running back, slot, receiver, and at QB in some formations.

The Corbin backfield is going to be very deep this year, with 3 starters returning in Powers, Coppock and Waddle. Nantz got some playing time late in the year and Reedy, Ledford, Taylor and Cima all looked good in mop-up roles. The QB(Stewart) on last year's 8th grade team will probably see the field as either a RB or WR this year as well.

I'm guessing that a lot of kids will start on one side of the ball this year, considering how many athletes they seem to have this year.
bear claw Wrote:It bothers me that Corbin will play Southwestern, Knox, and two 6A schools but will not play Harlan County. It is close, within an hour drive.

Wow, you are a hell of a fast driver there bear claw. It takes me about 55 minutes to get from downtown Harlan to Barbourville. However, you are correct. Corbin refusing to play Harlan County contributes to the pussification of the Corbin football program. They should man up and play.
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No, they should play Whitley.
Its a ten minute drive.
The only school closer is Lynn Camp.
No they should play Williamsburg 15 minute away. Confusednicker:
In a car, Corbin to Rosspoint is roughly an hour drive. If you know 119 pretty well, you can conceivably make it in 55 minutes. It usually takes about 1 hour and 20 minutes from Corbin to Cumberland and 15-20 minutes from the Baxter bridge in Harlan. That said, on a bus, you'd be looking at about an hour and 15 or 20 minute trip from Corbin-HCHS.

I would love to see Corbin/HC series started but ultimately I like everyone else want to see Corbin and Whitley County. The Corbin vs. South Laurel game brings nothing to the table. Sure there have been some good games in the past but Corbin and Whitley would be a completely different animal. You would have two teams that actually care about football playing on a Friday night. South Could stay on the schedule to fill a spot but more often than not, it really shouldn't be a must play game.

If it were up to me, Corbin's schedule would be as follows.

District:

Bell County
Wayne County
McCreary Central
Casey County

-Pigskin Classic (LCA, Pulaski, Rockcastle, Southwestern, Pikeville, Perry Central, etc)
-Whitley County (
-Middlesboro
-South Laurel/Knox Central//Harlan Co (rotating)
-GRC/Madison Southern/Garrard County type school that you should beat most years but can provide a challenge.
-Harlan/Wburg/Lynn Camp/Hazard-Single A school that would provide solid competition (mainly Wburg or Hazard) in some years but is generally a win.

This schedule in MOST YEARS would give you no worse than a 3-1 district record with a championship every 2 or 3 years and likely 4 or 5 wins in the non district. Some years Corbin could win 9 or 10 games depending on the talent coming through.

More importantly, you may enter the playoffs with 6-4 on some years but more often than not you'd be 7-3 or 8-2 once you get familiar with the opponents and get Corbin football back to where it should be. You will be much more battle tested compared to the different style offenses that you see.
"Battle tested" 6-4 with a 1st round playoff loss would mean less heat than there seems to be now?

Outside of Bell in the regular season, Corbin lost 4 games by a TD or less then lost to Larue in the 1st round by 20.

Had Corbin gone 8-2 in the regular season, and still gotten put out by 20 in the 1st round made paradise a little less troublesome than it seems to be right now from this site?
Until Corbin schedule gets a little stiffer, they will not compete deep in playoffs. Watched Corbin play a few times last year and they play very soft!!
Need Cotton on staff!
HAROLD Wrote:In a car, Corbin to Rosspoint is roughly an hour drive. If you know 119 pretty well, you can conceivably make it in 55 minutes. It usually takes about 1 hour and 20 minutes from Corbin to Cumberland and 15-20 minutes from the Baxter bridge in Harlan. That said, on a bus, you'd be looking at about an hour and 15 or 20 minute trip from Corbin-HCHS.

I would love to see Corbin/HC series started but ultimately I like everyone else want to see Corbin and Whitley County. The Corbin vs. South Laurel game brings nothing to the table. Sure there have been some good games in the past but Corbin and Whitley would be a completely different animal. You would have two teams that actually care about football playing on a Friday night. South Could stay on the schedule to fill a spot but more often than not, it really shouldn't be a must play game.

If it were up to me, Corbin's schedule would be as follows.

District:

Bell County
Wayne County
McCreary Central
Casey County

-Pigskin Classic (LCA, Pulaski, Rockcastle, Southwestern, Pikeville, Perry Central, etc)
-Whitley County (
-Middlesboro
-South Laurel/Knox Central//Harlan Co (rotating)
-GRC/Madison Southern/Garrard County type school that you should beat most years but can provide a challenge.
-Harlan/Wburg/Lynn Camp/Hazard-Single A school that would provide solid competition (mainly Wburg or Hazard) in some years but is generally a win.

This schedule in MOST YEARS would give you no worse than a 3-1 district record with a championship every 2 or 3 years and likely 4 or 5 wins in the non district. Some years Corbin could win 9 or 10 games depending on the talent coming through.

More importantly, you may enter the playoffs with 6-4 on some years but more often than not you'd be 7-3 or 8-2 once you get familiar with the opponents and get Corbin football back to where it should be. You will be much more battle tested compared to the different style offenses that you see.

Ive been saying this for years.
You laid that out perfectly.

That schedule is what Corbin needs.
Ive been wondering lately about the financial situation and how long it will be before Corbin upgrades there facilities. Corbin has some of the best practice facilities, along with a great fieldhouse that isnt that old, and pretty good weight room.
It seems the administration has been tight with money over the past few years, but Corbins stadium could really use some modern touches to it. Nothings worse than sitting on concrete in the freezing cold Confusednicker:

However, Ive always heard that before that happens, a new middle school would be next on the agenda, and rightfully so. If im not mistaken, that building is somewhere around 80 years old, and the seperated gym was built around the 30's or 40's sometime? It also served as the high school before the new one was built around 40-50 years ago. After the renovation to the high school this past couple of years, i would imagine it would take a little while to settle up some financials to get what they need, i would just love to see Corbin really do something big with that stadium. There still one of there very few schools with a stadium away from the campus, and its one of the long list of traditions there.

But, as far as the schedule, i couldnt agree more. Weve been waiting for a Corbin/Whitley game since 82? I think? As ive stated before though, i firmly believe it wont happen until Jewell is gone, and thats not on the Corbin faithful, because i know theyd love to see it to.
redstorm Wrote:Until Corbin schedule gets a little stiffer, they will not compete deep in playoffs. Watched Corbin play a few times last year and they play very soft!!
Need Cotton on staff!

I know ive said this before on here, but Cotton is the greatest football mind this area has ever produced. Corbin never should have let him slip away. I think he could of added 2-3 more state championships to Corbin before his time was done.
He was my mentor and without him, i wouldnt know half of what i know about the game of football. I know Whitley is proud to say Cotton was a part of this program for so many years, and im sure Corbin feels the same way about all the time and effort he put in there 30 something odd years ago all the way back to his playing days.
Id like to see some more of the older Corbin posters bring up the 50's, 60's, and 70's of Corbin football more on here. I was sad to here about Mr. Bird. Maybe the greatest high school athlete of all time in this state. He was a freak of nature for the time, and that family may be the best family to ever be produced in this state not only in football, but in basketball, and other things as well.

As for Cotton though, i would imagine hes enjoying retirement. I seen him not to long ago. Still one of the best men ive ever met. He may hold the claim to being the best 5'4 linebacker that ever lived Confusednicker:
If im not mistaken he played his college ball at South Dakota State? As an all American to i believe.

I enjoy hearing about Corbins past. Theres a lot of County connections in there as well. The majority of my family went to Corbin, and its not uncommon to have a few back and forths :biggrin:
Cotton should have never left (forced out). Don't get me wrong, I loved Coach Whitaker but he wouldn't have been hired if Corbin knew Tim Couch would have ended up staying at Leslie. They were close to getting him but Tim showed loyalty and already had made a name for himself so I don't blame him.

I will not discredit Jewell. When it comes to pure knowledge of the game, he and his staff are as good as they get. I honestly think that they simply out-smart themselves too much. Of course I am a Corbin fan but realistically, Corbin should have no less than 4 state titles under Coach Jewell.

-The 2000-01 team (Sizemore, Cook, Neal, Mills, Hoover) were the best 2A team in the state and better than Boyle. I'll argue that to my grave. Cook got hurt against Moore and it was too quick of a turnaround against Glasgow for them to readjust.

-The 2001-02 team lost on the questionable play call to Hoover when going for 2 against Larue. Jarrod Lawson was unstoppable towards the end of that game and should have goten the ball at the goal line.

-The 03-04 team lost at E-Town in the playoffs but certainly was the best team in the state that year. That same Etown team got destroyed as Seniors the following year by Corbin who graduated a lot of starters.

-The 04-05 team again lost on a questionable play call in the state semis vs. Owensboro Catholic. This time it was Brad Lawson who was unstoppable on the final drive only for them to put the play into the hands of a freshman QB.

Those are the 4 years that I believe Corbin certainly should have won the State. In 2009, had Watkins not dropped the pass at Newport, I think Corbin would have won that one. I'm not blaming him b/c it's hard to catch a ball despite being wide open when it's 8 degrees outside.

The following year was another good chance when Corbin went 13-1.

Cotton Adams would have definitely won some of those and without question would have won in 1996. That Corbin team that Whitaker had was as good as any team in the state A-AAAA. You just don't see that kind of talent put together often.
How many years was Cotton Adams the coach at Corbin and how many state titles did he win?
As an assistant: 76,77,80
Head coach: 1982 won state
Runner-up 1990?
Corbin had a great STAFF for many years!!
Jewell doesn't let his staff do much, other than Williard. Must make kids tougher or will keep getting same outcome .
redstorm Wrote:As an assistant: 76,77,80
Head coach: 1982 won state
Runner-up 1990?
Corbin had a great STAFF for many years!!
Jewell doesn't let his staff do much, other than Williard. Must make kids tougher or will keep getting same outcome .

So Cotton Adams was the HC for about 15 years and won 1 title?

If he was the coach in 1983 then that was the biggest choke job in Corbin History. The 1983 Corbin team had several D1 players.

Jewell has done a great job as the Corbin coach IMO.
Corbin has a very solid program. Lately they just haven't seemed to be on the same level talent wise as some of those great Corbin teams of the 1980's that I watched and played against. They seem to be more of a regional, rather than a state power now.
HAROLD Wrote:Cotton should have never left (forced out). Don't get me wrong, I loved Coach Whitaker but he wouldn't have been hired if Corbin knew Tim Couch would have ended up staying at Leslie. They were close to getting him but Tim showed loyalty and already had made a name for himself so I don't blame him.

I will not discredit Jewell. When it comes to pure knowledge of the game, he and his staff are as good as they get. I honestly think that they simply out-smart themselves too much. Of course I am a Corbin fan but realistically, Corbin should have no less than 4 state titles under Coach Jewell.

-The 2000-01 team (Sizemore, Cook, Neal, Mills, Hoover) were the best 2A team in the state and better than Boyle. I'll argue that to my grave. Cook got hurt against Moore and it was too quick of a turnaround against Glasgow for them to readjust.

-The 2001-02 team lost on the questionable play call to Hoover when going for 2 against Larue. Jarrod Lawson was unstoppable towards the end of that game and should have goten the ball at the goal line.

-The 03-04 team lost at E-Town in the playoffs but certainly was the best team in the state that year. That same Etown team got destroyed as Seniors the following year by Corbin who graduated a lot of starters.

-The 04-05 team again lost on a questionable play call in the state semis vs. Owensboro Catholic. This time it was Brad Lawson who was unstoppable on the final drive only for them to put the play into the hands of a freshman QB.

Those are the 4 years that I believe Corbin certainly should have won the State. In 2009, had Watkins not dropped the pass at Newport, I think Corbin would have won that one. I'm not blaming him b/c it's hard to catch a ball despite being wide open when it's 8 degrees outside.

The following year was another good chance when Corbin went 13-1.

Cotton Adams would have definitely won some of those and without question would have won in 1996. That Corbin team that Whitaker had was as good as any team in the state A-AAAA. You just don't see that kind of talent put together often.

I agree that Corbin often outsmarts themselves in their play calling. You pointed out a couple of examples in your post: 1) The play call on the 2 pt conversion against LaRue would have worked if he would have made the second pitch(not sure why they just didn't hand it to Lawson or Cook, which were probably sure things), but I thought the game turned on the first play of the second qtr. with Corbin leading 14-0 and driving it down the field again, only to try a double pass with a freshman QB as a WR that resulted in INT, and ultimately into a LaRue TD that got them back in the game. If Corbin scores there, I'm pretty sure that they would have won going away. 2) Owensboro Catholic had not been able to stop Lawson or Ware on the ground the entire game, but instead Corbin runs a fade to a 5'7" WR in the the corner of the endzone on the 2 pt conversion.:argue:
I believe the 2004 team would have won the state, with the 2001 team having a good shot at it, although I can't agree with Corbin beating Boyle in 2000.
That Corbin/Boyle game would have been fantastic. Boyle had a strong D but Corbin did too. They were pretty much mirror images across the line. Boyle probably had a little more on the outside but that trio of backs with Sizemore, Cook, and Neal was as good as I have seen. I think even against Boyle, Corbin would keep the chains moving. Sizemore was a 6'2 250 pound animal and Cook was elusive and good as any back in Kentucky and still about 6'2 210. Key on them and you had to worry about a 225 lb fullback who ran a 4.5 or Mills and Hoover catching balls or on the jet sweep. Woulda Coulda Shoulda though.
goBIGblue82 Wrote:Williamsburg has tremendous athletes, however they weren't better than Corbin in Middle School and they're not better now.

:notbad: but this isn't middle school football we're talking about right now.2013 high school football team. Confusednicker: this would be an awesome game.Williamsburg would win by 30pts. Or more this year go Williamsburg :Cheerlead:Cheerlead:Cheerlead
64SUR Wrote::notbad: but this isn't middle school football we're talking about right now.2013 high school football team. Confusednicker: this would be an awesome game.Williamsburg would win by 30pts. Or more this year go Williamsburg :Cheerlead:Cheerlead:Cheerlead

Williamsburg is a very good 1A team. They have 3-4 guys that could start for Corbin. However, outside of those 3-4 the rest would struggle to get playing time for Corbin. Sizemore, Patrick, and Griffith are studs, but the group of athletes just below them aren't on the same level as most of the skill guys at Corbin. Corbin would have too much depth, and would beat Williamsburg by 3 TD's.
64SUR Wrote::notbad: but this isn't middle school football we're talking about right now.2013 high school football team. Confusednicker: this would be an awesome game.Williamsburg would win by 30pts. Or more this year go Williamsburg :Cheerlead:Cheerlead:Cheerlead

Williamsburg was good enough to put up 35+ against Hazard last year and according to you would win easily. How did that game play out for the Burg? You are a great smack talker and I appreciate a good sports argument, but when it comes to game predictions your track record isn't that great.

But, I'm sure your bookie really likes your game picks.....Confusednicker:
goBIGblue82 Wrote:Williamsburg was good enough to put up 35+ against Hazard last year and according to you would win easily. How did that game play out for the Burg? You are a great smack talker and I appreciate a good sports argument, but when it comes to game predictions your track record isn't that great.

But, I'm sure your bookie really likes your game picks.....Confusednicker:

:truestory: that hurt hoping no one would remember that game against the hazard bulldog i ate crow from western kentucky and hazard fan.but i can predict if we did play corbin this year it would be a 30pt.win and that just my opinion go williamsburg from 64sur :theman: gobigblue82 and corbin redhounds :notbad:
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