[UNDECIDED]

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/2...-prospects......

[whats-it-2u]

You can tell this list is from Louisville.

[Cat Daddy]

I can't believe there isn't one kid from East Kentucky on this list. In my opinion the Herald Leader top 50 is much more accurate.

[EKUAlum05]

Keep in mind this list is about "College Prospects" and let's be honest..there aren't a lot of prospects that come out of EKY.

[tomcat4life]

I can't believe there isn't one kid from East Kentucky on this list. In my opinion the Herald Leader top 50 is much more accurate.

Mcpeak from Fairview

[panther nation]

Here is list so you don't have to click on the link above.



TOP 50 COLLEGE PROSPECTS IN KENTUCKY

Player School Pos. Ht. Wt. Yr. Choice
Drew Barker Conner QB 6-4 205 Sr. Kentucky
Reggie Bonnafon Trinity QB 6-2 195 Sr. Louisville
Donald Brooks Trinity RB 6-0 185 Jr.
Eli Brown Warren East LB 6-2 192 Jr. Vanderbilt
Joe Brown Butler DB 5-9 172 Sr.
Lenny Broyles St. Xavier DL 6-2 285 Sr.
Sam Burchell Cov. Catholic LB 6-2 225 Sr.
Will Bush Ballard WR 6-1 200 Sr.
Scott Daniel Scott County WR 6-1 170 Sr.
Austin Davis St. Xavier RB 5-11 225 Sr.
Ryan Duvall Apollo DE 6-5 220 Sr. Western Ky.
Matt Elam John Hardin DT 6-5 360 Sr.
Nacarius Fant Bowling Green WR 5-11 175 Sr. Western Ky.
DeAndre Farris Collins WR 5-9 174 Sr. Western Ky.
Marianno Fletcher Seneca DT 6-2 285 Sr.
Phillip Francis Central LB 5-11 195 Sr.
Damien Harris Madison Southern RB 5-11 210 Jr. Michigan
Devin Hayes Bowling Green QB 6-2 175 Sr.
Seth Hope Highlands DE 6-3 225 Sr. Cornell
Zyaire Hughes McCracken County ATH 6-1 165 So.
Joel Iyiegbuniwe South Warren S 6-3 210 Sr.
Dekota Jones St. Xavier DB 5-9 195 Sr.
Robert Jones Valley QB 6-1 175 Sr.
John Kurtz St. Xavier OL 6-5 260 Sr.
Marcelis Logan Lex. Catholic RB 5-10 173 Sr.
Cody McPeek Fairview OL 6-3 325 Jr.
Adrian Middleton South Warren DL 6-4 270 Sr. Kentucky
Derquoine Mobley Central LB 6-1 204 Sr.
B.J. Nagle St. Xavier QB 6-3 220 Sr.
Sean Neurnberger Oldham County K 6-1 230 Sr. Ohio State
Cole Ousley McCracken County QB 6-3 165 Sr.
Derik Overstreet Tilghman DE 6-3 240 Sr. Western Ky.
Treyveon Percell St. Xavier RB 5-10 195 Sr.
Chris Porter-Bunton Warren Central WR 6-4 200 Sr.
Lincoln Quick Bowling Green LB 6-2 205 Sr.
Reese Ryan Lex. Catholic QB 6-2 175 Jr.
Evan Sayner McCracken County DE 6-4 250 Sr. Western Ky.
Elijah Sindelar Caldwell County QB 6-5 195 Jr.
Emmitt Smith Warren Central LB 6-1 230 Jr.
Kendall Sowards Ryle OL 6-3 280 Sr. Indiana St.
Darrius Spivey-Nunn Tilghman DB 6-0 182 Sr.
Donald Styles Central LB 5-11 185 Sr.
Cody Swabek Trinity WR 6-1 170 Sr.
R.J. Taylor Tates Creek CB 6-0 158 Sr.
Nick True Highlands TE 6-6 245 Sr. Western Ky.
Lloyd Tubman Seneca DE 6-5 235 Sr. Vanderbilt
Keion Wakefield Male WR 6-0 155 So.
Charles Walker St. Xavier RB 5-11 188 Sr.
Masai Whyte Collins LB 6-1 207 Sr. Western Ky.
Landon Young Lafayette OL 6-7 270 So. Kentucky
Compiled by Jason Frakes and Steve Jones; based on poll of coaches and recruiting services.

[MattJonesKSR]

The McPeek kid is getting a lot of attention from schools around the country from everything I keep hearing from local coaches.

[RamPride]

Messer from Raceland has been contacted by Mississippi State, Auburn, EKU, Georgetown, Ohio Dominican, Illinois State for football. UK, EKU, Georgetown and Notre Dame for track. Not on the list.
http://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/kh...ts_37530_0

CATSPAUSE 2013
2013 PRESEASON PLAYER OF THE YEAR

Connor Messer, Raceland, Jr., ATH, 6-3, 165. Of the 22 total positions on a football team, Messer can play them all but about nine. Besides lineman, Messer pretty much has filled every spot for the Rams in his first two seasons as a varsity player. As a sophomore last season, the 6-3, 165-pounder grabbed nine interceptions (three for touchdowns) at defensive back, had 33 catches for 633 yards and eight TDs at receiver, was 6-for-7 passing at quarterback and covered 119 yards on 19 carries at running back.


Milesplit.com:
http://ky.milesplit.com/athletes/1347355...hUHN-X8Pa8

[Tica]

Cole Ousley? That's funny.

[wkyhollywood]

Houston Hartz - Owensboro Catholic Sr. 2700+ yds passing, 32 TDs - 11-1 record in 2A.
From what I hear he's getting looks from small colleges.

[UNDECIDED]

I can't believe there isn't one kid from East Kentucky on this list. In my opinion the Herald Leader top 50 is much more accurate.

Do you have the link for the herald Leader version....

[Coachdad]

List looks pretty good to me , all the Jefferson co kids really are being recruited by big schools. Central has 3 on there as well as 3 in the NFL .

[hop24]

Here is list so you don't have to click on the link above.



TOP 50 COLLEGE PROSPECTS IN KENTUCKY

Player School Pos. Ht. Wt. Yr. Choice
Drew Barker Conner QB 6-4 205 Sr. Kentucky
Reggie Bonnafon Trinity QB 6-2 195 Sr. Louisville
Donald Brooks Trinity RB 6-0 185 Jr.
Eli Brown Warren East LB 6-2 192 Jr. Vanderbilt
Joe Brown Butler DB 5-9 172 Sr.
Lenny Broyles St. Xavier DL 6-2 285 Sr.
Sam Burchell Cov. Catholic LB 6-2 225 Sr.
Will Bush Ballard WR 6-1 200 Sr.
Scott Daniel Scott County WR 6-1 170 Sr.
Austin Davis St. Xavier RB 5-11 225 Sr.
Ryan Duvall Apollo DE 6-5 220 Sr. Western Ky.
Matt Elam John Hardin DT 6-5 360 Sr.
Nacarius Fant Bowling Green WR 5-11 175 Sr. Western Ky.
DeAndre Farris Collins WR 5-9 174 Sr. Western Ky.
Marianno Fletcher Seneca DT 6-2 285 Sr.
Phillip Francis Central LB 5-11 195 Sr.
Damien Harris Madison Southern RB 5-11 210 Jr. Michigan
Devin Hayes Bowling Green QB 6-2 175 Sr.
Seth Hope Highlands DE 6-3 225 Sr. Cornell
Zyaire Hughes McCracken County ATH 6-1 165 So.
Joel Iyiegbuniwe South Warren S 6-3 210 Sr.
Dekota Jones St. Xavier DB 5-9 195 Sr.
Robert Jones Valley QB 6-1 175 Sr.
John Kurtz St. Xavier OL 6-5 260 Sr.
Marcelis Logan Lex. Catholic RB 5-10 173 Sr.
Cody McPeek Fairview OL 6-3 325 Jr.
Adrian Middleton South Warren DL 6-4 270 Sr. Kentucky
Derquoine Mobley Central LB 6-1 204 Sr.
B.J. Nagle St. Xavier QB 6-3 220 Sr.
Sean Neurnberger Oldham County K 6-1 230 Sr. Ohio State
Cole Ousley McCracken County QB 6-3 165 Sr.
Derik Overstreet Tilghman DE 6-3 240 Sr. Western Ky.
Treyveon Percell St. Xavier RB 5-10 195 Sr.
Chris Porter-Bunton Warren Central WR 6-4 200 Sr.
Lincoln Quick Bowling Green LB 6-2 205 Sr.
Reese Ryan Lex. Catholic QB 6-2 175 Jr.
Evan Sayner McCracken County DE 6-4 250 Sr. Western Ky.
Elijah Sindelar Caldwell County QB 6-5 195 Jr.
Emmitt Smith Warren Central LB 6-1 230 Jr.
Kendall Sowards Ryle OL 6-3 280 Sr. Indiana St.
Darrius Spivey-Nunn Tilghman DB 6-0 182 Sr.
Donald Styles Central LB 5-11 185 Sr.
Cody Swabek Trinity WR 6-1 170 Sr.
R.J. Taylor Tates Creek CB 6-0 158 Sr.
Nick True Highlands TE 6-6 245 Sr. Western Ky.
Lloyd Tubman Seneca DE 6-5 235 Sr. Vanderbilt
Keion Wakefield Male WR 6-0 155 So.
Charles Walker St. Xavier RB 5-11 188 Sr.
Masai Whyte Collins LB 6-1 207 Sr. Western Ky.
Landon Young Lafayette OL 6-7 270 So. Kentucky
Compiled by Jason Frakes and Steve Jones; based on poll of coaches and recruiting services.

Funny thing about this is it takes 2 guys to type it up but it's based on coaches and recruiting services............:eyeroll: Can you say pass the buck!

[topnotch]

Dalton `Sizemore is most definitely a blue chip

[William Muney]

Only 2 from this area that I would think would have a shot at any list would be Wilson from Harlan Co. and Cox from Bell. We have some really good teams in EKY but not a lot of great talent.

[rednblackattack]

Well I will say that this list is ok. As for Sizemore I am sure he is college material. However to get noticed and to make these lists. U have to go and standout at camps against similar if not better competition. Beating up on a ridiculously weak high school schedule wont The kid gets to the title game it will help him. This is not a slight to his skill just reality to how getting recognized as a player is difficult. As a example Mayfields qb isn't on the list neither he put up 3000 yards with a 30 to 1 TD ratio and has only lost 2 games as a starter in 2 season with a runner up and a title against a strong schedule. He is short for a college qb so it keeps him off these lists despite being second team all state.

[FarristownFlyer]

Damien is the best player on that list, and a very great respectful kid.

[panther nation]

This list is just total BS!!! It is really crap!! There is just as much talent in the mountains and southern part of the state as there is in the big cities. Just cause we don't have a major paper or tv. Telling all about our teams and getting them national attention. Doesn't mean we don't have the kids or talent.

[Iam4thecats]

Can anyone name the players for me east of i-75 who have committed to D-1 schools who are not on this list?

[FarristownFlyer]

Can anyone name the players for me east of i-75 who have committed to D-1 schools who are not on this list?

Exactly

[playtowin]

Can anyone name the players for me east of i-75 who have committed to D-1 schools who are not on this list?

This list is just total BS!!! It is really crap!! There is just as much talent in the mountains and southern part of the state as there is in the big cities. Just cause we don't have a major paper or tv. Telling all about our teams and getting them national attention. Doesn't mean we don't have the kids or talent.

I think that's his point. The mountain kids obviously don't have as many
D1 players but the point is that we don't have major newspapers or tv stations that publicize our kids. Think how much easier it is for someone to get a hype and to get recruited when the courier journal writes your football games highlights in he louisville paper the day after every game. Tell me the last time any major newspaper has written about hazard, belfry, Somerset, or any school that consistently does very well. We don't love close to them
So they don't care about us... Which in turn leads to so many kids going undiscovered. Yes, we don't have as many kids in d1 but not because of lack of talent!!

[EKUAlum05]

D-1 Prospects are not made by newspapers... they are made by camps, competition, and connections.

I am as fervent of a EKY Mountain Sport supporter as anyone, but the argument that there are as many D1 talents in EKY as Louisville, Lexington, and NKY is absurd.

I am going to speak very bluntly here, and in no way shape or form do I want what I say to be taken out of context or mis-represented as anything other than a frank comment that is statistically correct.

The crux of why EKY does not produce as many D-1 prospects begins and is most closely tied with the inherent lack of African Americans in the population base. The vast majority of D-1 players are African American and the concentration of the population simply isn't remotely close to the geographical areas of the State (Louisville, Lexington, WKY) that produces the most D- prospects. To illustrate this further, consider the most prominent D-1 Athletes to come out of EKY in recent years and the names Arliss Beach, David Jones, Dante Wright, and Durrell White would be toward the top of that list. That's not to say that is a pre-requisite... as guys like Tim Couch, Irv Dotson, Jeremy Caudill, Nate McPeek, etc all had great careers... but from a shear % stand point it is not even close.

Secondly, EKY has been hampered for year with kids who don't pan out at the next level. I don't mean to single these individuals out but guys like Gerad Parker, Michael West, Joey Stepp, Jonathan Chapman, Jared Hostetter, Channing Fugate, Dallas Greer, Brent Slusher, etc who go on to play D-1 ball and never really make a significant impact. Some are due to injury and that can't be held against them, but it seems there is much higher than normal rate of guys who simply don't cut it academically or mentally. This does have an impact.

Third, geography is a negative. It simply limits the ability to get noticed because camps and combines are so far away, and even more important it is not feasible from a logistical standpoint for scouting. For example, on any given Fall weekend there are no less than 15-20 D1 prospects within a 20 minute radius of where I live in Georgia. A collegiate scout can visit all of those guys in one day.. whereas in EKY where you may only have 3-4 potential prospects he would be lucky to visit 2 in the span of a day.

Finally, there is a snowball effect that is associated with recruiting. Even your best EKY programs like Belfry and Bell County that have produced several D-1 prospects over time are lucky to have a legitimate prospect once every 5 years. Compare that to a Louisville Central, Trinity, or Highlands who produce probably a player each season. It is advantageous for the collegiate scouts to develop relationships at those schools since they will be there frequently recruiting a player.. this in turn leads to under the radar guys being found..and guys gaining offers who may not actually merit one in hopes of keeping that relationship strong for a Blue Chip Prospect who will follow behind him. A prime example of this is Stephenson High School in Stone Mountain, GA. This school has not won a State Title in recent memory..yet they produce 7-10 D-1 prospects per season. Of those 10 players only 4 may end up being a major contributor at the D-1 level.. but coaches..including the UK staff.. have offered and taken guys who may not even be as good of other prospects for the simple goal of maintaining a relationship with the staff and having pull when that stud DE prospect becomes a Senior.

[64SUR]

Can anyone name the players for me east of i-75 who have committed to D-1 schools who are not on this list?

i,m sure there about 50 kids east of I-75 that could have been on that lists of sugar daddy top 50.and out of that 50 i only see 14 D-1 commit. its bs an courier-journal no so.it a slap in eastern kentucky face :HitWall::HitWall::HitWall::HitWall:

[EKUAlum05]

Also, I think a lot of people have the misconception that a great HS player makes a great College Player.. some of the best players I remember playing the game at the HS level were not D-1 talents.

[Panther Thunder]

Also, I think a lot of people have the misconception that a great HS player makes a great College Player.. some of the best players I remember playing the game at the HS level were not D-1 talents.

Doug Howard > David Jones in High School, IMO.

[EKUAlum05]

i,m sure there about 50 kids east of I-75 that could have been on that lists of sugar daddy top 50.and out of that 50 i only see 14 D-1 commit. its bs an courier-journal no so.it a slap in eastern kentucky face :HitWall::HitWall::HitWall::HitWall:

No it is not...how many of those uncommitted players have offers or true significant interest (not just letters..but actually visiting or being actively scouted) from D-1 schools? I think you will find the majority do.

People are getting worked up like there was an agenda to this article...there is not... if anything it is painfully unoriginal as all they did was check recruiting sites and prominent coaches at schools known to produce D-1 talent to see which players have been noted to being actively recruited.

This is not the list of "The Top 50 Players in KY" it is a list of the "The Top 50 PROSPECTS". Nothing more..nothing less. If Dalton Sizemore had offers from D-1 schools he would be on the list. If the Belcher kid from Johnson Central was taking an official visit to Michigan he would be on the list.

[Panther Thunder]

College coaches get FIRED for not winning. If there was some untapped gold mine here in EKY, trust me, they would be mining away and trying to save their jobs.

[EKUAlum05]

Doug Howard > David Jones in High School, IMO.

^^^
This!

But David Jones > Doug Howard as a D-1 prospect. Doug was a man amongst boys on Friday Nights and will probably always be my favorite Pirate to ever see play... but Doug didn't have the Height, the 40 Time, or the athletic ceiling of a guy who would go on to have a cup of tea in the NFL. Scouts saw Doug play... major newspapers talked about his 200 yard performance in the State Finals.. but as I said a great HS player does not mean a great college player.

[catsallthetime]

D-1 Prospects are not made by newspapers... they are made by camps, competition, and connections.

I am as fervent of a EKY Mountain Sport supporter as anyone, but the argument that there are as many D1 talents in EKY as Louisville, Lexington, and NKY is absurd.

I am going to speak very bluntly here, and in no way shape or form do I want what I say to be taken out of context or mis-represented as anything other than a frank comment that is statistically correct.

The crux of why EKY does not produce as many D-1 prospects begins and is most closely tied with the inherent lack of African Americans in the population base. The vast majority of D-1 players are African American and the concentration of the population simply isn't remotely close to the geographical areas of the State (Louisville, Lexington, WKY) that produces the most D- prospects. To illustrate this further, consider the most prominent D-1 Athletes to come out of EKY in recent years and the names Arliss Beach, David Jones, Dante Wright, and Durrell White would be toward the top of that list. That's not to say that is a pre-requisite... as guys like Tim Couch, Irv Dotson, Jeremy Caudill, Nate McPeek, etc all had great careers... but from a shear % stand point it is not even close.

Secondly, EKY has been hampered for year with kids who don't pan out at the next level. I don't mean to single these individuals out but guys like Gerad Parker, Michael West, Joey Stepp, Jonathan Chapman, Jared Hostetter, Channing Fugate, Dallas Greer, Brent Slusher, etc who go on to play D-1 ball and never really make a significant impact. Some are due to injury and that can't be held against them, but it seems there is much higher than normal rate of guys who simply don't cut it academically or mentally. This does have an impact.

Third, geography is a negative. It simply limits the ability to get noticed because camps and combines are so far away, and even more important it is not feasible from a logistical standpoint for scouting. For example, on any given Fall weekend there are no less than 15-20 D1 prospects within a 20 minute radius of where I live in Georgia. A collegiate scout can visit all of those guys in one day.. whereas in EKY where you may only have 3-4 potential prospects he would be lucky to visit 2 in the span of a day.

Finally, there is a snowball effect that is associated with recruiting. Even your best EKY programs like Belfry and Bell County that have produced several D-1 prospects over time are lucky to have a legitimate prospect once every 5 years. Compare that to a Louisville Central, Trinity, or Highlands who produce probably a player each season. It is advantageous for the collegiate scouts to develop relationships at those schools since they will be there frequently recruiting a player.. this in turn leads to under the radar guys being found..and guys gaining offers who may not actually merit one in hopes of keeping that relationship strong for a Blue Chip Prospect who will follow behind him. A prime example of this is Stephenson High School in Stone Mountain, GA. This school has not won a State Title in recent memory..yet they produce 7-10 D-1 prospects per season. Of those 10 players only 4 may end up being a major contributor at the D-1 level.. but coaches..including the UK staff.. have offered and taken guys who may not even be as good of other prospects for the simple goal of maintaining a relationship with the staff and having pull when that stud DE prospect becomes a Senior.

This explanation is Spot on ! The Mountain players even in basketball have always had are hard time getting noticed. With AAU the past 10 years it has opened a lot of doors.

[Tica]

If you are good, people are going to find you. It doesn't matter who you are or where you play. There are rooms full of scouting service employe whiz kids who do nothing but go over press reports, high school rosters, bulletin boards, web pages, etc. to cull info on prospects. If you are talented, have the size and can make the grades, they know where you are and colleges will invest money in trying to find you and recruit you. Success is not whether you were featured on last night's newscast. Success is a D1 or D2 offer. Far too often at the local level, the most vocal advocate of a player's ability comes from his parents, and that perception is at times not grounded in reality.