[RunItUpTheGut]

I honestly don't think it's the coaches or administration that does it. I think a good player will transfer to a better program and environment if he has the opportunity to highlight his skills. Williamsburg has greatly improved and Corbin lost several to them. It's a better environment. Kids used to come to Corbin from Whitley because it was a better environment. If Whitley hires Dudley then Corbin is doomed. If Jewell was to leave and Corbin hire Dudley or someone else with a good background then Williamsburg and Whitley will revert back to the 70s and 80s football wise. It comes in cycles. People want to blame it on the education system but I don't agree. Whitley and Burg are good schools. By the way Gut, Corbin is in Whitley Co but you act like they always steal kids. :lame:

I don't act like it, I know it use to happen. You may not know the ones personally it happened to but MS use to recruit these kids straight out of the county. Everyone knows that. Corbin may be in Whitley County but all of Whitley County isn't in Corbin. Theres a difference there. If you live outside city limits you should have to go to the county. If you live inside city limits you should have to go to the city. No in between.
As I said in my last post, mark Corbin "doomed".
Some of those kids were promised they'd be helped with getting a college scholarship and when it didn't happen or they only offer they got was to Cumberland, it somewhat stopped. I don't see how it was ever a cycle. Corbin was always a strong team until the 90's and then it started to taper off. They still had a lot of wins, but against subpar competition. Whitley only started getting good after Campbell took over and has built there program since the early 90's. The last decade has been up and down, but that had more to do with in school talent.

[pjdoug]

I truly hope you are right. If Dudley gets the Whitley job Bell will win again. You will see a bunch if good kids transfer. Dudley will still have our number:ChairHit:

but will they win against Whitley?lol

[pjdoug]

I honestly don't think it's the coaches or administration that does it. I think a good player will transfer to a better program and environment if he has the opportunity to highlight his skills. Williamsburg has greatly improved and Corbin lost several to them. It's a better environment. Kids used to come to Corbin from Whitley because it was a better environment. If Whitley hires Dudley then Corbin is doomed. If Jewell was to leave and Corbin hire Dudley or someone else with a good background then Williamsburg and Whitley will revert back to the 70s and 80s football wise. It comes in cycles. People want to blame it on the education system but I don't agree. Whitley and Burg are good schools. By the way Gut, Corbin is in Whitley Co but you act like they always steal kids. :lame:

Whitley kids created the good enviroment to begin with.

[SEKYFAN]

I don't act like it, I know it use to happen. You may not know the ones personally it happened to but MS use to recruit these kids straight out of the county. Everyone knows that. Corbin may be in Whitley County but all of Whitley County isn't in Corbin. Theres a difference there. If you live outside city limits you should have to go to the county. If you live inside city limits you should have to go to the city. No in between.
As I said in my last post, mark Corbin "doomed".
Some of those kids were promised they'd be helped with getting a college scholarship and when it didn't happen or they only offer they got was to Cumberland, it somewhat stopped. I don't see how it was ever a cycle. Corbin was always a strong team until the 90's and then it started to taper off. They still had a lot of wins, but against subpar competition. Whitley only started getting good after Campbell took over and has built there program since the early 90's. The last decade has been up and down, but that had more to do with in school talent.

City limit boundaries have nothing to do with school district boundaries.

I'm not even sure who this "MS" you are referring to is?

[RunItUpTheGut]

City limit boundaries have nothing to do with school district boundaries.

I'm not even sure who this "MS" you are referring to is?

Then you don't even know half of what was going on.

[SEKYFAN]

Then you don't even know half of what was going on.

You may be right. Give me a hint, it might gel my memory.

The only kids who I can remember transferring from Whitley that made much of a positive impact were Jarod Lawson, Brad Lawson and Kenneth Bays.

[pjdoug]

You may be right. Give me a hint, it might gel my memory.

The only kids who I can remember transferring from Whitley that made much of a positive impact were Jarod Lawson, Brad Lawson and Kenneth Bays.

Whitley County players were making an impact in Corbin before the Lawson's were even born lol

[SEKYFAN]

Whitley County players were making an impact in Corbin before the Lawson's were even born lol

Such as?

[HAROLD]

Kenneth Bays was at Corbin before he went to Whitley. He bounced around a bit.

[redstorm]

Steely boys

[RunItUpTheGut]

You may be right. Give me a hint, it might gel my memory.

The only kids who I can remember transferring from Whitley that made much of a positive impact were Jarod Lawson, Brad Lawson and Kenneth Bays.

Would you like an entire list?

I don't have enough time for that. Ask yourself this. How many kids started playing ball at Oak Grove, switched to Corbin in middle school while still living in the county?

I can tell you one thing, I went to Oak Grove my entire elementary career, and we had 40 kids on our 5th and 6th grade team. Half of them went to Corbin, with about 5 or 6 playing all the way through high school. It happens every year. Im not saying these kids are stolen, a lot of them choose to go to Corbin because its closer, but none the less, there kids that live outside city limits, and without a reciprocal agreement, they wouldn't have been allowed to.

Talking strictly on a recruiting basis, the number of kids that transferred after they had already started high school isn't some great number, but its still quite large. I would imagine that through the years of 90-00 Corbin had at least 50 kids who either started at Whitley or should have went there the whole time.

That's the great thing about todays world, the tables have turned. I just watched the boys bball team beat Corbin for the first time in 20 years.

[SEKYFAN]

Steely boys

Darin, Danny and DeWayne Steely?

[oldhound70s]

Darin, Danny and DeWayne Steely?

Come on Gut. The Steely boys lived much closer to Corbin and also played little league and middle school in Corbin. Whitley school system absolutely sucked during that time period. The state came in and even took it over. Parents have a right to send their kids where they want. Get over it. If we lose kids to other schools then that's OUR fault, not the receiving school's fault. Whitley has their school system fixed now and are doing great. I am proud of them and support what they've done.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Come on Gut. The Steely boys lived much closer to Corbin and also played little league and middle school in Corbin. Whitley school system absolutely sucked during that time period. The state came in and even took it over. Parents have a right to send their kids where they want. Get over it. If we lose kids to other schools then that's OUR fault, not the receiving school's fault. Whitley has their school system fixed now and are doing great. I am proud of them and support what they've done.

When did I say anything about the Steely boys?
Look whos posting it before you call me out.

[oldhound70s]

When did I say anything about the Steely boys?
Look whos posting it before you call me out.

You are right....that should have been directed at Redstorm. I apologize.:insane:

[oldhound70s]

Steely boys

Come on REDSTORM. The Steely boys lived much closer to Corbin and also played little league and middle school in Corbin. Whitley school system absolutely sucked during that time period. The state came in and even took it over. Parents have a right to send their kids where they want. Get over it. If we lose kids to other schools then that's OUR fault, not the receiving school's fault. Whitley has their school system fixed now and are doing great. I am proud of them and support what they've done.

[pjdoug]

Come on REDSTORM. The Steely boys lived much closer to Corbin and also played little league and middle school in Corbin. Whitley school system absolutely sucked during that time period. The state came in and even took it over. Parents have a right to send their kids where they want. Get over it. If we lose kids to other schools then that's OUR fault, not the receiving school's fault. Whitley has their school system fixed now and are doing great. I am proud of them and support what they've done.

:biglmao:

[redstorm]

I agree with you old hound, I wasn't living in the state at that time, but knew Darrin from college. He played middle school or little league at Whitley. I don't blame him for going to Corbin.
I believe Corbin had more Knox kids and laurel than Whitley at the time.

[Gitback Coach]

I agree with you old hound, I wasn't living in the state at that time, but knew Darrin from college. He played middle school or little league at Whitley. I don't blame him for going to Corbin.
I believe Corbin had more Knox kids and laurel than Whitley at the time.

Wow, American, tax-paying parents being allowed to select where their own children attend school. What a concept.

For my part, abolish all of these arbitrary, government-mandated boundaries and let families decide for themselves.

If you build it, they will come. If they don't come, you haven't built it yet.

[oldhound70s]

It appears Whitley will always say Corbin's past success is due to County kids. As a matter of fact, so does Knox and Laurel County. Not many seem to remember the city of Corbin is in Whitley, Knox, and Laurel counties. Parents should always be able to choose where they send their kids. If a school system loses a kid it's their fault and no one else's. Corbin is losing football players to surrounding schools and its no one else's fault except Corbin's. Laurel, Knox Central, and Whitley high schools are all at least 10-15 miles away from Corbin. Most kids chose Corbin due to distant or parents worked in Corbin. Many also chose Corbin because it was a better environment.

[RunItUpTheGut]

It appears Whitley will always say Corbin's past success is due to County kids. As a matter of fact, so does Knox and Laurel County. Not many seem to remember the city of Corbin is in Whitley, Knox, and Laurel counties. Parents should always be able to choose where they send their kids. If a school system loses a kid it's their fault and no one else's. Corbin is losing football players to surrounding schools and its no one else's fault except Corbin's. Laurel, Knox Central, and Whitley high schools are all at least 10-15 miles away from Corbin. Most kids chose Corbin due to distant or parents worked in Corbin. Many also chose Corbin because it was a better environment.

All year long Corbin fans have said Wburgs success was due to there players.
Are we doing a double standard here, or is that just human nature?

IF Whitley takes a few kids off corbin over the next couple of years, which is likely, will Corbin fans still say that those kids had the right to choose to go there, or will they say they couldn't have done it without "Corbin Kids"?

I think its funny no matter how you look at it.
The times are changing...

[oldhound70s]

All year long Corbin fans have said Wburgs success was due to there players.
Are we doing a double standard here, or is that just human nature?

IF Whitley takes a few kids off corbin over the next couple of years, which is likely, will Corbin fans still say that those kids had the right to choose to go there, or will they say they couldn't have done it without "Corbin Kids"?

I think its funny no matter how you look at it.
The times are changing...

Show me one post where I have attributed Williamsburg's success to transfers from Corbin or said kids were recruited from Corbin. Heck yeah Williamsburg is taking players and Whitley will do the same before long. That's Corbin's fault! Parents still should be able to choose though.

[panther nation]

It appears Whitley will always say Corbin's past success is due to County kids. As a matter of fact, so does Knox and Laurel County. Not many seem to remember the city of Corbin is in Whitley, Knox, and Laurel counties. Parents should always be able to choose where they send their kids. If a school system loses a kid it's their fault and no one else's. Corbin is losing football players to surrounding schools and its no one else's fault except Corbin's. Laurel, Knox Central, and Whitley high schools are all at least 10-15 miles away from Corbin. Most kids chose Corbin due to distant or parents worked in Corbin. Many also chose Corbin because it was a better environment.

Your almost right except no part of Corbin is in laurel co. It's all in either Whitley or Knox but not laurel.

[oldhound70s]

Your almost right except no part of Corbin is in laurel co. It's all in either Whitley or Knox but not laurel.

I'm pretty sure the area around KFC out to malfunction junction is Laurel Co but in city limits. I could've wrong though.

[panther nation]

Yes they are in laurel county but if you will notice when you cross Lynn camp creek going toward town you will see a sign that says Corbin city limits. By state law a city can't be in more than two counties. The city of Corbin would love to get KFC and Walmart and all of north Corbin in the city limits but the law want let them.

[SEKYFAN]

Show me one post where I have attributed Williamsburg's success to transfers from Corbin or said kids were recruited from Corbin. Heck yeah Williamsburg is taking players and Whitley will do the same before long. That's Corbin's fault! Parents still should be able to choose though.

I would like for him to tell us who all of these Corbin fans are who posted what he stated. There may have been one maybe, although I can't recall any at all. I haven't really even heard people say that around town. There were some kids who use to be at Corbin that contributed to Williamsburg's success, but they did not cause their success, because the Yellow Jackets were going to very good anyway.

He continues to lose all credibility with some of the things he claims as fact, but I guess that haters are going to hate.

[SEKYFAN]

Yes they are in laurel county but if you will notice when you cross Lynn camp creek going toward town you will see a sign that says Corbin city limits. By state law a city can't be in more than two counties. The city of Corbin would love to get KFC and Walmart and all of north Corbin in the city limits but the law want let them.

This is correct. The law got pushed through back in the 70's by a Laurel Co. politician(Gene Robinson) to prevent Corbin from being able to annex into Laurel Co. Some of the big businesses(Wal Mart for one) out in North Corbin have been working through political channels to get the law repealed so that they can be annexed into Corbin.

[pjdoug]

Your almost right except no part of Corbin is in laurel co. It's all in either Whitley or Knox but not laurel.

Corbin is in Whitley,Knox and Laurel counties

[panther nation]

Corbin is in Whitley,Knox and Laurel counties

Wrong my friend there is not part of Corbin city limits in any of laurel county. Check your maps or drive the roads and you will see that the Corbin city limits start at either the Knox laurel line or Whitley laurel line......

[panther nation]

This has made me laugh for years all these people who just assume that Corbin is in laurel county... Laurel county was so smart in getting laws passed to keep Corbin out of laurel co.