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02-15-2014, 07:29 PM
Have you heard that one lately? OF COURSE they are not going to suggest ways to help the liberal zealots of this land, in furthering their social justice and global warming agendas. Liberals have two out of three branches of the federal government in a strangle hold as things stand. And, there in lies much of the problem. Despite the fact that Republicans have been right at every turn for the past 5 years, ObamaCare is a laughable failure, there are STILL fewer folks working than when BHO took the oath of office, median income is down, etc, etc., Dems get by in dodging the bullets they so richly deserve while at the same time, tried and true statesmen and foreign policy experts of renown, are relegated to the side lines. Forced to watch as a bunch of rabid liberal chipmunks run amok on the world stage. The result? Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Afghanistan.
IMO, Republicans need to own that charge with pride, while pointing out the many legislative fixes they have offered only to have Dems pooh-pooh them out of hand. The Dems own the whole exacerbated mess. At least Repbulicans are talking like they understand the problems we face, having subsequently offered some very lucid solutions to enhance ObamaCare for example. And, having sent those solutions in the form of legislation to the Senate, whereupon Harry Reid gave it the same thoughtful consideration he's given everything else. Thus, it wound up stacked on top of the rest of the legislation that came up out of the House and is now dry rotting for lack of attention. :biggrin:
IMO, Republicans need to own that charge with pride, while pointing out the many legislative fixes they have offered only to have Dems pooh-pooh them out of hand. The Dems own the whole exacerbated mess. At least Repbulicans are talking like they understand the problems we face, having subsequently offered some very lucid solutions to enhance ObamaCare for example. And, having sent those solutions in the form of legislation to the Senate, whereupon Harry Reid gave it the same thoughtful consideration he's given everything else. Thus, it wound up stacked on top of the rest of the legislation that came up out of the House and is now dry rotting for lack of attention. :biggrin:
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02-19-2014, 03:49 PM
Happened across this article today.
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"The law’s defenders (ObamaCare) legitimately argue that it is not sufficient merely to criticize the Affordable Care Act; responsible action requires proposing an alternative. Fortunately, Republicans have a good one, and it’s been hiding in plain sight for the past seven years. The plan was first described in President George W. Bush’s 2007 State of the Union Address, but it remains timely. This plan would remedy most of the major problems that exist in America’s health care system and cause less destruction with fewer adverse consequences than Obamacare."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...z2tnYBWv7u
You know, if one slings enough mud against the wall, some of it is bound to stick. This is the applicable phenomenon for all the distortions and misdirection emanating out of the DNC. People have been fed so much in the way of criticism against Republicans, it is difficult to discipline oneself to the degree necessary in order to avoid believing some of the lies subconsciously. And, as the above referenced article proves, Republicans do have ideas, it's just that those ideas are unilaterally rejected out of hand by current Democrats.
Admittedly, I would have resisted George W's proposal in 2007, because ultimately, it would have required me to give up my cadillac insurance, for a plan that covered substantially less. Obviously however, though I wouldn't have recognized it at the time, my plan will be likely be subjected to change in in any event due to ObamaCare mandates. In our defense (labor), we have spent our entire working lives working toward goals and securities that are now under threat. What is the reason for all the insurance bru ha-ha anyway? After all, medical insurance reform has proven to be the overriding obsession of the entire 8 year Obama era.
I believe, as I have said on occasions past, that this whole thing is a social reckoning. Rich lefties have never liked the fact that organized labor has managed to capture such a comfortable style of living. And, that would include their health insurance plans. The irony is that through the same technique called out above, uber rich liberals, who say they are all about fairness issues, (like equality of income, ones size fits all insurance, global warming, a wind up little scooter for every cookie cutter American, no guns, redistribution of wealth, etc. etc.) , are the ones guilty of being anti-labor, not the Republicans who thanks to propaganda, bear the full brunt of labor's ire over their shrinking relevance. Thus we see that Dems continue to successfully dodge responsibility for their own actions by merely blaming Republicans. I can't resist this example to demonstrate my point a bit further. Ever been around the guy who was so unabashed, he could cut the cheese and very adeptly blame somebody near for the deed? The tactic works, and works well.
What we are seeing is a movement to reorganize the social structure of this country. Know-it-all liberals think they should be at the top of the food chain (shocker), followed by professional folks, followed by labor (which in their mind is not much more than a massive collection of brain dead handy men), and at the bottom level are the poor. What is so laughable, is how willing labor is to do the bidding of the left. So thick is the fog bank in which they grope, they wrongly suppose their future is secure through some quid-pro-quo deal with the Devil. Hence, labor dutifully keeps on sending Dems back to the hill, all the while, not understanding that their own actions are in no small way, helping to ensure their own demise.
So, while I and the rest of labor plied our trade, the jealous, judgmental, self absorbed liberal elite have been plotting a reckoning. A leveling of the field that will affect all the little people while leaving themselves unscathed. Such notions are un-American. If ultimately successful in their quest to fundamentally transform this nation, any chance for those in the middle class to get ahead will vanish into history. And, Dems will go on blaming the Republicans for the whole mess.
EXCERPT---
"The law’s defenders (ObamaCare) legitimately argue that it is not sufficient merely to criticize the Affordable Care Act; responsible action requires proposing an alternative. Fortunately, Republicans have a good one, and it’s been hiding in plain sight for the past seven years. The plan was first described in President George W. Bush’s 2007 State of the Union Address, but it remains timely. This plan would remedy most of the major problems that exist in America’s health care system and cause less destruction with fewer adverse consequences than Obamacare."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...z2tnYBWv7u
You know, if one slings enough mud against the wall, some of it is bound to stick. This is the applicable phenomenon for all the distortions and misdirection emanating out of the DNC. People have been fed so much in the way of criticism against Republicans, it is difficult to discipline oneself to the degree necessary in order to avoid believing some of the lies subconsciously. And, as the above referenced article proves, Republicans do have ideas, it's just that those ideas are unilaterally rejected out of hand by current Democrats.
Admittedly, I would have resisted George W's proposal in 2007, because ultimately, it would have required me to give up my cadillac insurance, for a plan that covered substantially less. Obviously however, though I wouldn't have recognized it at the time, my plan will be likely be subjected to change in in any event due to ObamaCare mandates. In our defense (labor), we have spent our entire working lives working toward goals and securities that are now under threat. What is the reason for all the insurance bru ha-ha anyway? After all, medical insurance reform has proven to be the overriding obsession of the entire 8 year Obama era.
I believe, as I have said on occasions past, that this whole thing is a social reckoning. Rich lefties have never liked the fact that organized labor has managed to capture such a comfortable style of living. And, that would include their health insurance plans. The irony is that through the same technique called out above, uber rich liberals, who say they are all about fairness issues, (like equality of income, ones size fits all insurance, global warming, a wind up little scooter for every cookie cutter American, no guns, redistribution of wealth, etc. etc.) , are the ones guilty of being anti-labor, not the Republicans who thanks to propaganda, bear the full brunt of labor's ire over their shrinking relevance. Thus we see that Dems continue to successfully dodge responsibility for their own actions by merely blaming Republicans. I can't resist this example to demonstrate my point a bit further. Ever been around the guy who was so unabashed, he could cut the cheese and very adeptly blame somebody near for the deed? The tactic works, and works well.
What we are seeing is a movement to reorganize the social structure of this country. Know-it-all liberals think they should be at the top of the food chain (shocker), followed by professional folks, followed by labor (which in their mind is not much more than a massive collection of brain dead handy men), and at the bottom level are the poor. What is so laughable, is how willing labor is to do the bidding of the left. So thick is the fog bank in which they grope, they wrongly suppose their future is secure through some quid-pro-quo deal with the Devil. Hence, labor dutifully keeps on sending Dems back to the hill, all the while, not understanding that their own actions are in no small way, helping to ensure their own demise.
So, while I and the rest of labor plied our trade, the jealous, judgmental, self absorbed liberal elite have been plotting a reckoning. A leveling of the field that will affect all the little people while leaving themselves unscathed. Such notions are un-American. If ultimately successful in their quest to fundamentally transform this nation, any chance for those in the middle class to get ahead will vanish into history. And, Dems will go on blaming the Republicans for the whole mess.
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02-21-2014, 10:50 PM
Republicans don't have anything resembling a spine either...They have disgusted me.
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02-22-2014, 11:57 AM
TidesHoss32 Wrote:Republicans don't have anything resembling a spine either...They have disgusted me.
They look weak right now to be sure. Republican leadership has been too timid to take up for themselves, allowing the Dems to define them in a negative light. I understand their reluctance to meet fire with fire, though I do not agree with them for laying back. The media lays it on thick too when they speak of those despicable Republicans, giving ever more credence to the DNC party line. Republicans fear that to challenge the Dems daily distortions at the level necessary, would make them look like willing participants in a high school cafeteria food fight. And they would therefore be lowered to the level of dirty politics the Dems are so good at. So, Republicans have taken what they believe to be the more dignified route. Which is laughable, because the folks putting the Dems in office are low info voters and they believe the Dems because what they are saying, is out there every day on the news.
The Romney campaign should have proven to Republicans, and the voters for that matter, that they are going to have to respond to the ridiculous charges being made by the left. And not merely during an election, daily if necessary. Another example would be the so-called government shut down. Boehner was terrified and he's still terrified the masses of low voter types will be manipulated by the Dems. LOL, he might as well get over it and let the dogs out.
Boehner does have a point where it comes to Harry Reid. Reid runs the Senate Dems with an iron hand and, since they have the majority in the "upper house", and since he doesn't mind stretching legal limits one little bit, the Senate is controlling the entire congress right now. Again, Republicans should have been calling this tactic out since Reid started doing it, not just the last few months when they have finally started to bring attention to the problem.
In short, we seem to have forfeited the legislative envy of the world for one man's pen and a cell phone.
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02-22-2014, 02:16 PM
I would add. The Republicans would do well to remind the citizenry of this land about the legacy of our founding fathers. They bequeathed us a wealth of wisdom embodied in the US Constitution, complete with the amendments and other founding documents and writings such as the Federalist Papers. And, despite the Dem's childish protestations, ala the stereotypical image of a rebellious teenager that such ideas are passé, it is like the wisest man who ever lived said; "There is nothing new under the sun."---King Solomon. Nothing can replace the wisdom of the founding fathers, not even a brand new pen and a government issued blackberry.
Therefore, we as a nation are replete with IDEAS as things stand. In other words, we don't need no stinking "ideas." And the only "answer" we need, is to enforce the laws we already have on the books. The problem for liberals is that they don't like those laws, and have therefore launched an all out war to change said laws. Hence, in the very finest propagandist tradition, the need for more "ideas." But, like I said, we are Americans who already have the best ideas, and those ideas have withstood all manner of assault both intellectual and military. People should understand additionally, that the principles of governance have nothing to do with fads or other social neo-manias of which, we find ourselves beset. The danger we face, is embodied in the clever machinations of the liberal, who have successfully argued in the court against this country's traditional values as understood by those in government and the common man for lo, these past 237 years of our existence. I call that process 'redefinition', and I am convinced it represents the greatest single threat in history to the survival of America.
For example, Hitler is credited by some with causing the deaths of over 25 million innocent men, women and children. Thus history has ascribed to Hitler, the personification of evil. On the other hand, we here in the US have allowed, financed and otherwise abetted over 56 million abortions since Roe v Wade. Now, I call that the slaughter of the innocents, most rightly call it infanticide. But, liberal zealots that push abortion on demand have redefined the practice as "women's health." :please: In such manner, clever repackaging and redefinition, has advanced issues that we know are implicitly beneath any civilized group. Much less the greatest country in history. I guess we fine upstanding Americans will just give ourselves a pass on that one while at the same time, audaciously preaching about human rights to the likes of Russia and Red China.
So, the more we adopt the liberal view point and accept the legislative "ideas" they have thrust upon us, the worse things have gotten. None the less, folks still seem willing to choose not to see the very stark contrast represented by a simple comparison of the Reagan Era versus what we have now. Thus, the battle cry for even more "ideas" by the very ones who have managed to lead us into the wilderness in the first place. Why keep following the lost, when clearly it's the Republicans who remember the road to success, and how to get back on the darn thing. Where has common sense gone? I mean, when one leaves the route, he normally makes a few corrections and gets back on, right?
BTW, the above is the real reason liberal Dems have gone all-in, in their efforts to make Republicans "look" stupid. We who have tasted most of what this life is all about, are old enough to remember the things that made America successful. Therefore Democrats mock and jeer us for living. Why? Heck, they can't have the youth of our land listening to us. That would undermine their efforts to "fundamentally transform" America into some kind of Lennon-esque Utopia. Ironically, we were MUCH closer to that utopian image during the Reagan Administration. So incredibly vital was our economy that Bill Clinton was able to ride the wave of Reagan's financial policies, as outlined by Art Laffer, into a liberally 'redefined' place in history. Such was the obvious attempt to usurp the vision and success of conservative President Reagan. (SHOCKER)
Therefore, we as a nation are replete with IDEAS as things stand. In other words, we don't need no stinking "ideas." And the only "answer" we need, is to enforce the laws we already have on the books. The problem for liberals is that they don't like those laws, and have therefore launched an all out war to change said laws. Hence, in the very finest propagandist tradition, the need for more "ideas." But, like I said, we are Americans who already have the best ideas, and those ideas have withstood all manner of assault both intellectual and military. People should understand additionally, that the principles of governance have nothing to do with fads or other social neo-manias of which, we find ourselves beset. The danger we face, is embodied in the clever machinations of the liberal, who have successfully argued in the court against this country's traditional values as understood by those in government and the common man for lo, these past 237 years of our existence. I call that process 'redefinition', and I am convinced it represents the greatest single threat in history to the survival of America.
For example, Hitler is credited by some with causing the deaths of over 25 million innocent men, women and children. Thus history has ascribed to Hitler, the personification of evil. On the other hand, we here in the US have allowed, financed and otherwise abetted over 56 million abortions since Roe v Wade. Now, I call that the slaughter of the innocents, most rightly call it infanticide. But, liberal zealots that push abortion on demand have redefined the practice as "women's health." :please: In such manner, clever repackaging and redefinition, has advanced issues that we know are implicitly beneath any civilized group. Much less the greatest country in history. I guess we fine upstanding Americans will just give ourselves a pass on that one while at the same time, audaciously preaching about human rights to the likes of Russia and Red China.
So, the more we adopt the liberal view point and accept the legislative "ideas" they have thrust upon us, the worse things have gotten. None the less, folks still seem willing to choose not to see the very stark contrast represented by a simple comparison of the Reagan Era versus what we have now. Thus, the battle cry for even more "ideas" by the very ones who have managed to lead us into the wilderness in the first place. Why keep following the lost, when clearly it's the Republicans who remember the road to success, and how to get back on the darn thing. Where has common sense gone? I mean, when one leaves the route, he normally makes a few corrections and gets back on, right?
BTW, the above is the real reason liberal Dems have gone all-in, in their efforts to make Republicans "look" stupid. We who have tasted most of what this life is all about, are old enough to remember the things that made America successful. Therefore Democrats mock and jeer us for living. Why? Heck, they can't have the youth of our land listening to us. That would undermine their efforts to "fundamentally transform" America into some kind of Lennon-esque Utopia. Ironically, we were MUCH closer to that utopian image during the Reagan Administration. So incredibly vital was our economy that Bill Clinton was able to ride the wave of Reagan's financial policies, as outlined by Art Laffer, into a liberally 'redefined' place in history. Such was the obvious attempt to usurp the vision and success of conservative President Reagan. (SHOCKER)
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03-03-2014, 09:57 AM
Absolutely and sadly true. The Republicans have no answers whatsoever. All they do is whine and blow smoke out their butts. Issa, Chaffetz, Cantor, Boehner, etc. will never take a hard line on the Obama scandals. Now, they are giving Lois Lerner another week delay. The only Republican who appears to have a backbone is Trey Gowdy of South Carolina. Obama gets by with all this crap because of the weak leaders in the Republican Party. To Hell with all of them.
03-03-2014, 03:17 PM
Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:Absolutely and sadly true. The Republicans have no answers whatsoever. All they do is whine and blow smoke out their butts. Issa, Chaffetz, Cantor, Boehner, etc. will never take a hard line on the Obama scandals. Now, they are giving Lois Lerner another week delay. The only Republican who appears to have a backbone is Trey Gowdy of South Carolina. Obama gets by with all this crap because of the weak leaders in the Republican Party. To Hell with all of them.
Hey Harry, welcome back. LOL, so we can safely assume you harbor some mild measure of dissatisfaction with mealy mouthing Republicans then?
As you are no doubt aware, I agree with you on a great many things. I would suggest a defense for Republicans though, even if I don't agree with the rationale. Remember the cold war military doctrine known as M.A.D., or Mutual Assured Destruction? In the case between the two so-called super powers of the US and the USSR. Even though Russia had successfully gobbled up Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan, the deterrent posed by the US nuclear and conventional threat proved to be sufficient to keep the Soviet Union at bay. BTW, the crown jewel of all those states would be none other than Ukraine.
It was 1962 and we were deadlocked in the great stare down between our two nations that occurred in tiny Cuba. Russia chose discretion as the better part of valor. Fast forward to our day and extrapolate the concept of mutually assured destruction to the US political arena. Today's progressives seem steeled, poised for win or ruin. I honestly believe that Republicans are trying to demonstrate statesmanship in their efforts to as gently as possible, guide the US Ship of State back into the traditionally familiar waters of which, you and I know so well. Democrats on the other hand, are all-in, hell bent if you will, to see the US "transformed" to the liberal vision.
How can the federal government function when one party is willing to put party agenda over country? The result being the ruination of the whole, a cascade of stability in a scenario that looks a whole lot like M.A.D., the detonator being a national distrust in government. A nuclear food fight big enough and messy enough, to SCRAM the Congress. What is this rush to social change? American citizens are not the ones who want change at any cost. Rather such are the divisive results of a socio-political agenda manifesting itself within our society. Are conservatives and Republicans who look to the midterms of this fall equally naïve, or given the possibility of wresting the control of the Senate from the hands of Harry Reid, could they actually see some light at the end of the tunnel?
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03-04-2014, 10:00 AM
Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:Absolutely and sadly true. The Republicans have no answers whatsoever. All they do is whine and blow smoke out their butts. Issa, Chaffetz, Cantor, Boehner, etc. will never take a hard line on the Obama scandals. Now, they are giving Lois Lerner another week delay. The only Republican who appears to have a backbone is Trey Gowdy of South Carolina. Obama gets by with all this crap because of the weak leaders in the Republican Party. To Hell with all of them.
We are fortunate to have Trey Gowdy on the Judiciary Committee. If every Republican had the gonads he does, America would certainly be better for it. I mentioned that I did not agree with the Republican rationale of playing nicey nicey. Gowdy is certainly unafraid to call a spade a spade. Today he said Lerner would not be getting an immunity deal, and asked why would they want to give her immunity when they had no idea what all she had done. Further stating that for all he knew, she was the one who killed Jonbenet Ramsey.
I love this guy, and I wish him God speed!
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