[fridaynight22]

So does anyone know how many have been held back in the past 4 to 5 seasons? That's all I'm trying to get cleared up here. I have heard as many as 23 players over the course of 5 years and some have said 15,16,17 etc.. So I was curious if any of this is true. If so if anyone knows for sure just how many kids have been held back at JC over the past 5 seasons might clear up some of the rumors among coaches in the area. Again thanks and not here to make people pissed. So don't get so defensive........

[Bob Seger]

So does anyone know how many have been held back in the past 4 to 5 seasons? That's all I'm trying to get cleared up here. I have heard as many as 23 players over the course of 5 years and some have said 15,16,17 etc.. So I was curious if any of this is true. If so if anyone knows for sure just how many kids have been held back at JC over the past 5 seasons might clear up some of the rumors among coaches in the area. Again thanks and not here to make people pissed. So don't get so defensive........

Maybe if some of these "coaches in the area" spent as much time worrying about their own kids and programs as they do they do worrying about "rumors" they might have a program as successful as JC. Actually there is not one single coach in this area that has a team that competes or plays against JC, so why would any of the "coaches in the area" even give a flying flip about what happens or does not happen at JC?. .....This whole thing smells like sour grapes by someone......lol

[Granny Bear]

ANOTHER third party here, with no ties to JC.

You are right. A program with a senior class that consists of eighteen and nineteen year old kids, should have an advantage over other schools. With that being said, every parent has the oppurtunity to hold their child back, and if the parents at Johnson Central decide to hold their children back, then so be it. Not only does holding a child back benefit them athletically, it also benefits them academically. I don't have a dog in this fight, but the last time I checked, Johnson Central is a top tier school in the state of Kentucky for academics.

Exactly, Cat Daddy. I believe this is even more important with boys, because of maturity level. Education isn't 100% from the school books, but rather socially and maturity.

The man asked a question. Why so many people being so defensive? If it's not a big deal and there is nothing to be ashamed of, then why not just answer the question? The answers a fairly simple. It's either that does not happen or there is nothing wrong with it, here's the numbers you asked. Being defensive and avoiding the question makes it seem like you have something to hide.

Could be because of your arrogance in "demanding" an answer. Sort of like you feel that you "deserve" an explanation. You don't.

Little brown there on your nose CatDaddy. :eyeroll: :popcorn:

You're wrong. Cat Daddy doesn't brown nose anyone. He doesn't have to, since he's speaking the truth....and THAT'S the norm for him.

You Mad? So much anger on here :Clap: nicker::chainsaw: :eek::rules: I say investigate it like Cordia. :popcorn:

Then investigate it. You won't find players at JC that don't have English as their primary language. Candadian French is fluent at Cordia, as I understand it. Also, I've never seen dormitories to house the "out of country" folks at JC.

Maybe if some of these "coaches in the area" spent as much time worrying about their own kids and programs as they do they do worrying about "rumors" they might have a program as successful as JC. Actually there is not one single coach in this area that has a team that competes or plays against JC, so why would any of the "coaches in the area" even give a flying flip about what happens or does not happen at JC?. .....This whole thing smells like sour grapes by someone......lol

Spot on!!

[Bob Seger]

ANOTHER third party here, with no ties to JC.




Exactly, Cat Daddy. I believe this is even more important with boys, because of maturity level. Education isn't 100% from the school books, but rather socially and maturity.




Could be because of your arrogance in "demanding" an answer. Sort of like you feel that you "deserve" an explanation. You don't.




You're wrong. Cat Daddy doesn't brown nose anyone. He doesn't have to, since he's speaking the truth....and THAT'S the norm for him.




Then investigate it. You won't find players at JC that don't have English as their primary language. Candadian French is fluent at Cordia, as I understand it. Also, I've never seen dormitories to house the "out of country" folks at JC.




Spot on!!

And the gavel has been sounded...I'm all for a "Judge Granny" show on TV.:biggrin:

[Pulp Fiction]

Maybe if some of these "coaches in the area" spent as much time worrying about their own kids and programs as they do they do worrying about "rumors" they might have a program as successful as JC. Actually there is not one single coach in this area that has a team that competes or plays against JC, so why would any of the "coaches in the area" even give a flying flip about what happens or does not happen at JC?. .....This whole thing smells like sour grapes by someone......lol

In the Matney era... (2004-Present) I'm gonna call the 14th, 15th & 16th basketball regions "Teams In The Area". Here is a list of "Teams In The Area" we have played. Keep in mind, Ashland, Boyd County, Rowan County & Greenup County is in our district. We've played other teams in the WYMT coverage area, but they were too far away for me to list them as "Teams In The Area"

2004
vs. Whitesburg - W 42-0
vs. Estill County -W 44-14
vs. Greenup Count - W 62-13
@ Paintsville - W 48-6

2005
vs. Lawrence County - W 43-0
@ Boyd County - W 47-27
vs. Paintsville - W 50-6
@ Greenup County - W 43-21
@ Ashland - L 10-13

2006
@ Lawrence County - W 55-12
vs. Boyd County - W 63-12
@ Paintsville - W 56-6
vs. Greenup County - W 49-7
vs. Ashland - W 35-7
vs. Boyd County - W 50-6
vs. Ashland - W 28-21

2007
vs. Paintsville W 49-15
vs. Ashland W 67-33
@ Belfry L 12-28

2008
@ Breathitt County W 26-14
@ Paintsville W 55-7
vs. Hazard W 55-17
@ Ashland W 41-6
vs. Belfry L 13-21

2009
vs. Sheldon Clark L 14-22
@ Breathitt County W 36-14
vs. Ashland W 29-28
@ Belfry W 35-19

2010
@ Sheldon Clark W 14-12
vs. Breathitt County W 28-6
@ Ashland W 42-26
vs. Belfry W 42-7

2011
vs. Perry County Central L 27-35
vs. Boyd County W 51-20
@ Greenup County W 58-6
vs. Rowan County W 63-14
@ Ashland L 6-22
@ Belfry W 21-14

2012
@ Perry County Central W 44-36
@ Boyd County W 37-6
vs. Greenup County W 59-12
@ Rowan County W 58-14
vs. Ashland W 22-21
vs. Belfry L 12-17

2013
vs. Perry County Central W 53-7
vs. Boyd County W 69-14
@ Greenup County W 54-0
@ Ashland W 42-7
@ Belfry W 54-28

2014
@ Perry County Central
@ Boyd County
vs. Greenup County
@ Rowan County
vs. Ashland
vs. Belfry


Ashland, Boyd County, Rowan County, Greenup County, Belfry, Perry County Central, Hazard, Estill County, Whitesburg, Paintsville, Sheldon Clark, Breathitt County & Lawrence County.

[Bob Seger]

In the Matney era... (2004-Present) I'm gonna call the 14th, 15th & 16th basketball regions "Teams In The Area". Here is a list of "Teams In The Area" we have played. Keep in mind, Ashland, Boyd County, Rowan County & Greenup County is in our district. We've played other teams in the WYMT coverage area, but they were too far away for me to list them as "Teams In The Area"

2004
vs. Whitesburg - W 42-0
vs. Estill County -W 44-14
vs. Greenup Count - W 62-13
@ Paintsville - W 48-6

2005
vs. Lawrence County - W 43-0
@ Boyd County - W 47-27
vs. Paintsville - W 50-6
@ Greenup County - W 43-21
@ Ashland - L 10-13

2006
@ Lawrence County - W 55-12
vs. Boyd County - W 63-12
@ Paintsville - W 56-6
vs. Greenup County - W 49-7
vs. Ashland - W 35-7
vs. Boyd County - W 50-6
vs. Ashland - W 28-21

2007
vs. Paintsville W 49-15
vs. Ashland W 67-33
@ Belfry L 12-28

2008
@ Breathitt County W 26-14
@ Paintsville W 55-7
vs. Hazard W 55-17
@ Ashland W 41-6
vs. Belfry L 13-21

2009
vs. Sheldon Clark L 14-22
@ Breathitt County W 36-14
vs. Ashland W 29-28
@ Belfry W 35-19

2010
@ Sheldon Clark W 14-12
vs. Breathitt County W 28-6
@ Ashland W 42-26
vs. Belfry W 42-7

2011
vs. Perry County Central L 27-35
vs. Boyd County W 51-20
@ Greenup County W 58-6
vs. Rowan County W 63-14
@ Ashland L 6-22
@ Belfry W 21-14

2012
@ Perry County Central W 44-36
@ Boyd County W 37-6
vs. Greenup County W 59-12
@ Rowan County W 58-14
vs. Ashland W 22-21
vs. Belfry L 12-17

2013
vs. Perry County Central W 53-7
vs. Boyd County W 69-14
@ Greenup County W 54-0
@ Ashland W 42-7
@ Belfry W 54-28

2014
@ Perry County Central
@ Boyd County
vs. Greenup County
@ Rowan County
vs. Ashland
vs. Belfry

All immaterial....I don't consider district opponents 'In the area" and Perry Central and Belfry do not compete for players with JC...Make no mistake that this is not the intentions and angle that fridaynight is taking in his attempt to stir something up...

[Granny Bear]

And the gavel has been sounded...I'm all for a "Judge Granny" show on TV.:biggrin:

Wow!! Am I really THAT bitchy???

[fridaynight22]

Oh good grief. If you don't have the answer then just don't say anything. I can assure you I do not have any hidden agenda, nor do I really feel the need to "stir" something up that might be hidden within the JC football program. My attempt to clear up the rumors that I have heard from several coaches in eastern ky that JC has for several years now had quite a lot of kids held back for football evidently has been futile. Since no one can answer a simple question, I will back off as to not upset the all mighty prowess of JC and there fans. Good luck I wish you and your student athletes the best. No matter how many were held back.

[Bob Seger]

Wow!! Am I really THAT bitchy???

haha, It is a compliment for having common sense Granny.

[Granny Bear]

One final thought.......I don't have the answer but I can say anything I want as long as it doesn't constitute a rule infraction. You joined BGR (welcome!!) this month and have 17 posts to your name, and you're raising all this ruckus; yet no hidden agenda. Don't know about everyone on here, but I certainly wasn't born yesterday!!

Finally, I am not upset. I like the banter; just not the sarcastic arrogance.

[eagles2011]

Everybody just block fridaynight22 he's just a made up account to bash jc and coach matney look up his profile everything is about Johnson central ,

[Bob Seger]

Oh good grief. If you don't have the answer then just don't say anything. I can assure you I do not have any hidden agenda, nor do I really feel the need to "stir" something up that might be hidden within the JC football program. My attempt to clear up the rumors that I have heard from several coaches in eastern ky that JC has for several years now had quite a lot of kids held back for football evidently has been futile. Since no one can answer a simple question, I will back off as to not upset the all mighty prowess of JC and there fans. Good luck I wish you and your student athletes the best. No matter how many were held back.

All you have done since you became a member is to attempt to stir something up...Go back and look at your previous posts and they are all intended to create controversy, and just about all of them are directed towards JC.

The thing is Friday, in reality, there is no such thing as this "proverbial holdback" that you are so interested in, which why you would care about so intently is way is beyond me....If you are 19 after August 1st you are eligible to play high school athletics in the state of Kentucky....Casual observers with no hidden agenda could care less either way. There were no rules being broken by anyone, in any school, because it has happened everywhere....Start your kids in school when the are 7 and none of this is even brought into question. Of course now that the KHSAA has taken middle school athletics into their realm of authority and implemented the same rules that apply to high school athletics then this whole subject that you are trying to create controversy on, is all a mute conversation...Maybe now you can get on with your life. Apparently there are a lot of voids that you are trying to fill with your obvious agenda here. If I were to take a wild stab at it, I willing to go out on a limb and suggest that at one point in time you have had a child that has lost PT to another kid that has probably repeated a grade at the middle school level? Am I spot on?

[fridaynight22]

Well so sorry to have upset a few of you. Did not know that asking a simple question was being arrogant. And btw that's really hypocritical coming from a few of you isn't it. Also I had an account on here for quite a while but lost my info. so instead of trying to get another user name and password, I created a new one. I haven't been on here in a while so I'm very sorry to not have traveled the complete spectrum of forums that BGR has to offer. So please excuse and accept my humble apology for only having what is now 18 post (since your counting). I will refrain from asking such inflammatory questions again. Since no one seems to have the answer. Good luck and may JC have a GREAT season.

[Granny Bear]

One final thought.......I don't have the answer but I can say anything I want as long as it doesn't constitute a rule infraction. You joined BGR (welcome!!) this month and have 17 posts to your name, and you're raising all this ruckus; yet no hidden agenda. Don't know about everyone on here, but I certainly wasn't born yesterday!!
Finally, I am not upset. I like the banter; just not the sarcastic arrogance.

I just remembered; I wasn't born yesterday, I was born (wait for it)......TODAY!!!!!

[Pulp Fiction]

Well so sorry to have upset a few of you. Did not know that asking a simple question was being arrogant. And btw that's really hypocritical coming from a few of you isn't it. Also I had an account on here for quite a while but lost my info. so instead of trying to get another user name and password, I created a new one. I haven't been on here in a while so I'm very sorry to not have traveled the complete spectrum of forums that BGR has to offer. So please excuse and accept my humble apology for only having what is now 18 post (since your counting). I will refrain from asking such inflammatory questions again. Since no one seems to have the answer. Good luck and may JC have a GREAT season.

August 2014 is your Join Date... and of your 18 posts so far, 12 of them have been in the JC 2014 thread.
#URaJCHater

:dudecomeon:

[tomcat4life]

Back to football......
Is Belcher at JC? I was told he transferred to paintsville but he is listed on JC 2014 roster on khsaa website.

[Cat Daddy]

Little brown there on your nose CatDaddy. :eyeroll: :popcorn:

No, not brown nosing at all, just calling it like I see it. I have no affiliation with Johnson Central, but as a fan of high school football, I respect their program, and the direction their program is going at this time. I feel like some people get on this site for all of the wrong reasons, such as wanting to argue, instead of talking about football. Friday Night 22 isn’t looking for an answer; he is simply trying to “stir the pot”, and get a rise out of the Johnson Central fan base. I got two words for you "grow up".

[Pulp Fiction]

Back to football......
Is Belcher at JC? I was told he transferred to paintsville but he is listed on JC 2014 roster on khsaa website.

Belcher is at Paintsville.

[maximus73]

Does JC have a scrimmage game tonight. Who and where if anyone knows, please.

[THOMCAT]

Does JC have a scrimmage game tonight. Who and where if anyone knows, please.

Saturday night at 7:00 at Cabell Midland

[maximus73]

Thanks Thomcat.

[sstack]

Saturday night at 7:00 at Cabell Midland

What can you expect from Cabell Midland?

[KyRock]

Maybe if some of these "coaches in the area" spent as much time worrying about their own kids and programs as they do they do worrying about "rumors" they might have a program as successful as JC. Actually there is not one single coach in this area that has a team that competes or plays against JC, so why would any of the "coaches in the area" even give a flying flip about what happens or does not happen at JC?. .....This whole thing smells like sour grapes by someone......lol

The Dude just asked a question so much anger and hate on here anymore. Us losers in Eastern Ky have feelings to you know :Shaking: As successful as JC? :hilarious: I might be slow but what or where has JC been that any other team in Eastern Ky has not been. I don't remember JC winning a State Championship or anything. They do well to make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs every year. So don't try that approach as much as you want to think JC is better than everyone else. Really they are not nicker:

[sstack]

The Dude just asked a question so much anger and hate on here anymore. Us losers in Eastern Ky have feelings to you know :Shaking: As successful as JC? :hilarious: I might be slow but what or where has JC been that any other team in Eastern Ky has not been. I don't remember JC winning a State Championship or anything. They do well to make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs every year. So don't try that approach as much as you want to think JC is better than everyone else. Really they are not nicker:

Actually they have shown they are better, if not for 2 teams from the north getting in their way I believe they would have a couple of championships; can not say that about anyother teams in Eastern KY.

[Wolverine]

Can Johnson central or Ashlnad get past one of the northern kentucky teams in the playoffs?

[Eagleland]

Central averaged 4.6 passes per game
Highlands averaged 32 passes per game
Covington averaged 20 passes per game

Collins 4A state champs 22 passes per game
Mayfield1A state champs 22 passes per game
DeSale 2A state champs 7.8 passes per game
Belfry 3A state champs 6.4 passes per game
Bowling Green 5A champs 15 passes per game
Scotty county 6A champs 5.4 passes per game


2012
Mayfield 1A champs 11.4 passes per Game
Newport 2A champs 11.2 passes per game
Louisville Central 3A 10.8
Highlands 4A 22
Bowling green 5A 18.4
Trinity 6A 17.1

[Bob Seger]

The Dude just asked a question so much anger and hate on here anymore. Us losers in Eastern Ky have feelings to you know :Shaking: As successful as JC? :hilarious: I might be slow but what or where has JC been that any other team in Eastern Ky has not been. I don't remember JC winning a State Championship or anything. They do well to make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs every year. So don't try that approach as much as you want to think JC is better than everyone else. Really they are not nicker:

And here the cockroach crawls back out from amongst the slime and the filth once again, and yeah, slow you are!!

Dude asked a question and the Dude was told the facts by several.

And what have you got to run your mouth about?...I'll tell you what...Nothing....Funny how Lawrence Co. refuses to play JC, isn't it?....Could it be because it's just like baseball and basketball? They cant compete???....Best I remember Lawrence either cant make the playoffs or gets beat in the 1st round in one of those great years where they barely qualify...

[Bob Seger]

What can you expect from Cabell Midland?

Traditionally they are one of the better 3A teams in W Va.

[EKUAlum05]

Traditionally they are one of the better 3A teams in W Va.

......And technically one of the better overall teams in the entire state.

I say most years they are a Top 5 or 6 team in their class and Top 10 team overall.

Take it FWIW but Cabbell Midland is #4 in the entire State in Calpreps' pre-season rankings. They return 6 offensive starters and 7 defensive starters from a team who finished #6 overall in 2013 who went 9-3 before falling to Martinsburg. Martinsburg won the State Title and are Pre-Season #1 in the entire state.

[fridaynight22]

I think eastern ky football has certainly gotten the attention of the masses throughout the state. The main thing that I have seen when competing at the playoff level is the lack of understanding how to defend the spread offenses from the northern teams. With that being said though. It really seems that the eastern ky teams are very physical and play between the tackles well. I have to give JC a lot of credit. They really know how to play the power run game. Would just like to see more teams in eastern ky open up their offense a little more. The talent is definitely there.