[FoSho]

I'll be honest...I don't see what the big deal is? It should have been this way all along. Why not reward teams that earn it?

On a more serious note, why should a great team (because of cross bracketing) be forced to travel for two (possibly a third in the 2019) straight years for the Regional Final and Semi-state rounds?

The reseeding could possibly fix this.

[Single Wing 77]

I'll be honest...I don't see what the big deal is? It should have been this way all along. Why not reward teams that earn it?

On a more serious note, why should a great team (because of cross bracketing) be forced to travel for two (possibly a third in the 2019) straight years for the Regional Final and Semi-state rounds?

The reseeding could possibly fix this.

You keep using this as an excuse. Should Boyle have to travel for two or three years in a row? No they shouldn't. This doesn't fix that though. All it does is change the name of the team that has to travel two or three years in a row. As you say, it rewards the teams that earn it, but the fact of the matter is that it will be easier for some teams to "earn" it than others. If Boyle, Corbin, and central all go undefeated next season then Boyle should be ranked number three no matter what. Boyle has a mediocre schedule it will probably be the weakest of the four teams that make it to the semis. I know for a fact that central and Corbin will easily have tougher schedules than Boyle. IF they're going to do this then they need to do it right. There should be a computer ranking as well as a coaches poll included in the seeding.

[Iam4thecats]

You keep using this as an excuse. Should Boyle have to travel for two or three years in a row? No they shouldn't. This doesn't fix that though. All it does is change the name of the team that has to travel two or three years in a row. As you say, it rewards the teams that earn it, but the fact of the matter is that it will be easier for some teams to "earn" it than others. If Boyle, Corbin, and central all go undefeated next season then Boyle should be ranked number three no matter what. Boyle has a mediocre schedule it will probably be the weakest of the four teams that make it to the semis. I know for a fact that central and Corbin will easily have tougher schedules than Boyle. IF they're going to do this then they need to do it right. There should be a computer ranking as well as a coaches poll included in the seeding.

3 computes were mentioned. No Human poll was mentioned.

[Single Wing 77]

Is the courier journal not an AP poll?

[WILDCAT NATION]

I'll be honest...I don't see what the big deal is? It should have been this way all along. Why not reward teams that earn it?

On a more serious note, why should a great team (because of cross bracketing) be forced to travel for two (possibly a third in the 2019) straight years for the Regional Final and Semi-state rounds?

The reseeding could possibly fix this.

Ask the KHSAA why Boyle has traveled because they are the ones who set it up not the rest of the state.

Re-seeding is bad for football in KY. Very little information or research into the method to be used to "rank" teams. Some teams are ALWAYS going to be ranked ahead of other due to schedules THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED. Think of this example: In the new alignment lets say the same 4 teams win their regions every year. All 4 have tough non district schedules playing the best teams around the state and other states and winning. The champion of regions 2 and 4 have one other team in their respective districts that is moderately ranked but the region 1 and 3 champion's districts do not. By this method of thought the region 1 and 3 champions will travel ALL 4 YEARS in the semifinals only because their district opponents don't rank high enough to help their score and that's the one part of their scheduled they have ZERO control over. Your penalizing or rewarding teams because of geography.

The state has made GREAT strides in football over the past 25 years and I strongly feel is the #1 sport in the state now. Attendance at the state finals in Kroger Field proved that this state strongly supports football. Don't screw it up now with this.

[Single Wing 77]

The way to fix the cross bracketing problem isn't to put this ugly patch over it. The khsaa needs to admit that they made a mistake and do away with cross bracketing THIS season. That's the fix.

[Hatz]

Is the courier journal not an AP poll?

I’m assuming they are referring to the Lit Rankings.

[Hatz]

I don’t like the idea either. FWIW it’s always been a lucky draw based on a Region number.

[FoSho]

You keep using this as an excuse. Should Boyle have to travel for two or three years in a row? No they shouldn't. This doesn't fix that though. All it does is change the name of the team that has to travel two or three years in a row. As you say, it rewards the teams that earn it, but the fact of the matter is that it will be easier for some teams to "earn" it than others. If Boyle, Corbin, and central all go undefeated next season then Boyle should be ranked number three no matter what. Boyle has a mediocre schedule it will probably be the weakest of the four teams that make it to the semis. I know for a fact that central and Corbin will easily have tougher schedules than Boyle. IF they're going to do this then they need to do it right. There should be a computer ranking as well as a coaches poll included in the seeding.

Are you serious?

I stand by my post as it makes perfect sense. Oh and by the way, how did your "tougher schedule" help you last Dec 1st? Lol

[FoSho]

The way to fix the cross bracketing problem isn't to put this ugly patch over it. The khsaa needs to admit that they made a mistake and do away with cross bracketing THIS season. That's the fix.

Cross bracketing ends after this year and reseeding is only scheduled for this season from what I've read. Maybe it was put into effect since the cross bracketing fiasco?! To help fix it?

I don't like it either. But it certainly allows teams that have been scheduled to be on the road for two straight years (and maybe the third) a chance to actually earn home field.

[Single Wing 77]

Are you serious?

I stand by my post as it makes perfect sense. Oh and by the way, how did your "tougher schedule" help you last Dec 1st? Lol

No doubt Boyle county was the better team in 2017. I won't argue that and nobody with half of a brain can. That has nothing to do with 2018 though. Each team starts fresh and each team has a whole season and some playoffs to play before the semi's. If Corbin, central, and Boyle are all three undefeated and in the semis the Boyle deserves to be ranked third based on strength of schedule.

Also, if the khsaa wants to make a one year fix for cross bracketing they need to stop cross bracketing. Not add something else that is stupid to the mix.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Unless the semis will be neutral game sites this is a terrible idea.
If you're going to take this step, then force privates out of football. Trinity would be hosting the semis every year of SOS alone.

[FoSho]

No doubt Boyle county was the better team in 2017. I won't argue that and nobody with half of a brain can. That has nothing to do with 2018 though. Each team starts fresh and each team has a whole season and some playoffs to play before the semi's. If Corbin, central, and Boyle are all three undefeated and in the semis the Boyle deserves to be ranked third based on strength of schedule.

Also, if the khsaa wants to make a one year fix for cross bracketing they need to stop cross bracketing. Not add something else that is stupid to the mix.

Pretty much spot on except for the fact that just because our schedule may not "look like" it's that tough there is no justification of unseating a team for a perceived SOS and dropping them in the polls. And no sane person would put anyone other than Boyle as preseason #1 next year.

There is no way on Earth that even the most die hard Corbin fan could think they deserved to be ranked ahead of Boyle in the preseason. There is a great chance we will be BETTER in 2018 than 2017 and to think otherwise is either a lack of knowledge of the situation or the inability to admit the truth.

I think Corbin will be a great team next year and very well may prove to be on par with Boyle in the long run. But the championship game last year was an indication of how good the Rebels were and the core of the team returns. How can it be justified that they be anything but number 1? Thus, deserving of hosting in a reseeding scenario?

[FoSho]

The way to fix the cross bracketing problem isn't to put this ugly patch over it. The khsaa needs to admit that they made a mistake and do away with cross bracketing THIS season. That's the fix.

Cross bracketing was a dumb idea and doing this one time "fix" is exactly what should be done imo. Personally I hope cross bracketing and reseeding are both ended this season and unless I've missed something, there has been no indication that either will continue once realignment begins.

For the record, I would enjoy the challenge of playing at Belfry and a Corbin next year but it would also be nice to have our kids get to play at home since they had it taken away from them.

[FoSho]

The way to fix the cross bracketing problem isn't to put this ugly patch over it. The khsaa needs to admit that they made a mistake and do away with cross bracketing THIS season. That's the fix.

If they did it THIS season I agree, then we would host the semistate (I think, since Central did last season) and therefore not have two straight years of travel.

Why not contact the KHSAA and make that happen? 😜

[WILDCAT NATION]

If they did it THIS season I agree, then we would host the semistate (I think, since Central did last season) and therefore not have two straight years of travel.

Why not contact the KHSAA and make that happen? 😜

District 4 (Boyle, Lex Cath, etc) in cross bracketing is in Region 3 in 2018. Region 4 winner (Belfry) would host. District 5 is in Region 2 and Region 2 would host. No way around traveling and it’s because of cross bracketing. And it is possible that IF Corbin, Central, and Boyle all made it that Boyle would be 3rd and traveling because of the 3 rankings being discussed are power rankings not votes. Seeding is not a fix.

[WILDCAT NATION]

Unless the semis will be neutral game sites this is a terrible idea.
If you're going to take this step, then force privates out of football. Trinity would be hosting the semis every year of SOS alone.

Exactly. My point from the beginning. There are 1-2 teams per class that would never leave home again for a semifinal if they made it.

[FoSho]

I know Belfry hosts in 2018 (Corbin is semi state).

I also know Fleming Co was scheduled to host in 2017 (Etown was semi state).

In 2019 there is no guanrantee because it hasn't been announced.

It's POSSIBLE but I like our chances at being #1 at seasons end and hosting the semi state that we should be hosting anyway.

[jetpilot]

Really stupid idea that should never happen. For one thing, computer rankings are not objective, they are created by humans and have human biases built in. Most people know the Cantrall ratings have always favored northern teams. Worse, this system would reward teams that run up the score and penalize teams that show class and don't. Bad idea all around that should never be implemented.

[Single Wing 77]

If they did it THIS season I agree, then we would host the semistate (I think, since Central did last season) and therefore not have two straight years of travel.

Why not contact the KHSAA and make that happen? 😜

The article says that they are going to "start" seeding the semi finals. That means it's not just one year. If it were one year it would read something like "khsaa to seed semi finals in 2018". If they do it it will be for the long haul. In the grand scheme of thing Boyle would have to go on the road one more time than they should have too. If the seeding goes through them multiple teams will have to go on the road indefinitely. Nobody will really care that much about those teams though. They don't have coaches who have Julian Tackett's ear like Chuck Smith does.

As far as calling the khsaa goes, it sounds like most of the state already is. I'm sure if hundreds of AD's and coaches won't change anybody's mind, then a big mouthed fan won't either.

[Hatz]

The article says that they are going to "start" seeding the semi finals. That means it's not just one year. If it were one year it would read something like "khsaa to seed semi finals in 2018". If they do it it will be for the long haul. In the grand scheme of thing Boyle would have to go on the road one more time than they should have too. If the seeding goes through them multiple teams will have to go on the road indefinitely. Nobody will really care that much about those teams though. They don't have coaches who have Julian Tackett's ear like Chuck Smith does.

As far as calling the khsaa goes, it sounds like most of the state already is. I'm sure if hundreds of AD's and coaches won't change anybody's mind, then a big mouthed fan won't either.

Why do you think the KHSAA is listening to Chuck Smith?

[Cat Daddy]

I'm sorry, but the Herald-Leader’s Cantrall Ratings are a joke. It's crazy to think these rankings would be used to seed teams in the semi finals. Just leave it the way it was before last year, stop trying to fix things, if they aren't broke. It's politics, plain and simple.

[anotherfootballnut]

I think doing this will cost schools more money in travel . Take 1A Raceland who plays 4A Ashland and greenup , the only 1A schools they play are district games for more than one reason 1 it’s good competition that helps them in the playoffs next is those teams are local . Will greenup and Ashland continue to schedule a 1A school and chance getting beat and getting a black eye with the polls ? Probably not so now Raceland will have find games else where , already having to travel to somerset this year . And everyone knows the east really don’t get much respect from the polls or the people controling them . Bad idea IMO

[WILDCAT NATION]

I think doing this will cost schools more money in travel . Take 1A Raceland who plays 4A Ashland and greenup , the only 1A schools they play are district games for more than one reason 1 it’s good competition that helps them in the playoffs next is those teams are local . Will greenup and Ashland continue to schedule a 1A school and chance getting beat and getting a black eye with the polls ? Probably not so now Raceland will have find games else where , already having to travel to somerset this year . And everyone knows the east really don’t get much respect from the polls or the people controling them . Bad idea IMO

Bingo. Everyone is going to schedule to help SOS and this puts teams further behind the 8 ball. And since the power rankings take margin of victory into account there are going to be teams run up the score every chance they get. The running clock may make some go into a 2 minute offense to put up more points.

[FoSho]

Article on the subject, sorry if it's been posted already.

http://www.dailyindependent.com/sports/k...1ca25.html

[WILDCAT NATION]

Article on the subject, sorry if it's been posted already.

http://www.dailyindependent.com/sports/k...1ca25.html

Saw it yesterday. Matney says ok. Everyone else in NEKY area of the state says not good. Will never see a semifinal again.

[Hurricane Storm]

I guess I'm still old school. I like regional representation, and I know that does not generally mean the best two teams make it to the championship. I'm ok with that. I like an east vs. west scenario.

An nobody would dare touch the Sweet 16. Each region has a winner, and some region winners couldn't finish 4th in other regions. But it seems to work.

[bball_fan]

Really wish they would take West Virginia's system and apply it to Kentucky, but split it up between East and West. This will cause some insane travel issues I am sure or will certainly cause some games to be moved to Saturday. Like someone previously said, if Belfry and Paducah were to get matched up... which school misses a day of school to travel seven or eight hours across the state?

[Explorer]

Really wish they would take West Virginia's system and apply it to Kentucky, but split it up between East and West. This will cause some insane travel issues I am sure or will certainly cause some games to be moved to Saturday. Like someone previously said, if Belfry and Paducah were to get matched up... which school misses a day of school to travel seven or eight hours across the state?

There is a small school in WV that plays a very difficult schedule and based on the points system they use the team is a double digit seed (I believe WV has 1-16 seeds for each class). Then they curb stomp opponents in playoffs each year. Can’t for life of me remember who the team is. A ref in WV was telling me about it. I want to say they are around Parkersburg.

[thsrocks]

This will create a stir in November which apparently is what the KHSAA is hoping to accomplish.