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11-05-2018, 05:29 AM
Hound05 Wrote:Itâs also a lore finesse defense that takes away strength from the line and inside in exchange for speed. Something that wonât help them at pond creek. Donât matter if you catch them when theyâre 40 yds down field
The 35 defense doesnât have to be a finesse defense at all. While I agree that it allows for more skilled and athletic personnel.....with the ârightâ personnel....itâs actually a more attacking style of play defensively. IMO ....itâs really predicated on a massive NT that demands help from either backside/playside guard. If that happens....LBâs enjoy at times, unfettered flow either way to the ball. The way Belfry played that during 2013-2016 was a sheer thing of beauty.
11-05-2018, 06:06 AM
OutlawJoseyWales Wrote:The 35 defense doesnât have to be a finesse defense at all. While I agree that it allows for more skilled and athletic personnel.....with the ârightâ personnel....itâs actually a more attacking style of play defensively. IMO ....itâs really predicated on a massive NT that demands help from either backside/playside guard. If that happens....LBâs enjoy at times, unfettered flow either way to the ball. The way Belfry played that during 2013-2016 was a sheer thing of beauty.
No youâre right it doesnât have to be. But as Iâve said in other posts the main reason I donât like it in HS is because most teams donât have the personnel to run it effectively. Belfry is one school though over the past I believe would be able to do it. Itâs also a very complex defense when ran right. I do see a lot of teams going towards it, some more of a hybrid of it now days. I personally just donât like it on the HS level.
Here is the quote from LC head coach I was talking about with them running the 3-3-5 and why I asked about it in regards to belfry.
âOn defense
No doubt, we struggled to tackle last year on defense. The coaches and players are continually working to fix that situation. We have retaught our core techniques and will work to instill a mindset of Swarming Aggressiveness. We look to have a more players ready to play defense this upcoming season. I have mentioned the term âpositionless footballâ several times this spring, and the players that can learn to do more things on this side of the ball, will see chances to hit the field-regardless of their grade level. We will find eleven bodies that can play physical, fast, and smart. Our Defensive Line has the ability to be strength for us early, as there is experience in many in the rotation. We still run our 3-3-5 look, and our Inside Linebackers will bring a mixture of youth and experience to our defense. All of our Secondary positions-Rover, Knight, Free Safety, and Cornerback- could be played by multiple bodies, and multiple bodies can play multiple positions. We want to develop our athleticism and talents to become better football players first; we can assign positions in the secondary later. There are many Alumni of this program who may have had to play a position they did not initially practice. But they were good football players, so everything worked out. We are preparing this group to be able to do similar things.â
11-05-2018, 06:29 AM
Hound05 Wrote:No youâre right it doesnât have to be. But as Iâve said in other posts the main reason I donât like it in HS is because most teams donât have the personnel to run it effectively. Belfry is one school though over the past I believe would be able to do it. Itâs also a very complex defense when ran right. I do see a lot of teams going towards it, some more of a hybrid of it now days. I personally just donât like it on the HS level.
Here is the quote from LC head coach I was talking about with them running the 3-3-5 and why I asked about it in regards to belfry.
âOn defense
No doubt, we struggled to tackle last year on defense. The coaches and players are continually working to fix that situation. We have retaught our core techniques and will work to instill a mindset of Swarming Aggressiveness. We look to have a more players ready to play defense this upcoming season. I have mentioned the term âpositionless footballâ several times this spring, and the players that can learn to do more things on this side of the ball, will see chances to hit the field-regardless of their grade level. We will find eleven bodies that can play physical, fast, and smart. Our Defensive Line has the ability to be strength for us early, as there is experience in many in the rotation. We still run our 3-3-5 look, and our Inside Linebackers will bring a mixture of youth and experience to our defense. All of our Secondary positions-Rover, Knight, Free Safety, and Cornerback- could be played by multiple bodies, and multiple bodies can play multiple positions. We want to develop our athleticism and talents to become better football players first; we can assign positions in the secondary later. There are many Alumni of this program who may have had to play a position they did not initially practice. But they were good football players, so everything worked out. We are preparing this group to be able to do similar things.â
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11-05-2018, 06:31 AM
bucslover68 Wrote:I go back to the 2015 championship game. Similar matchup with neither team as good as back then. We looked at each other in the press box after the first drive and knew it was over. LexCath has no match up front for the physical play. I think this one goes similarly, but a little closer. Give me Belfry 41-21.
Belfry will have a difficult time trying to slow the passing game down if they don't keep pressure on the quarterback.
11-05-2018, 03:46 PM
pjdoug Wrote:Belfry will have a difficult time trying to slow the passing game down if they don't keep pressure on the quarterback.
The QB for Catholic can run to, and is very effective at it when he has to be.
11-05-2018, 04:48 PM
Making the whole game about one player sometimes isnât accurate and isnât fair. But I believe this game will come down to beau Allen. The knights wonât stop the pirates. The question to me is, can belfry stop Allenâs pass game? Heâll have to be spot on most drives, as I said I donât personally see LC getting to many defensive stops. Kid will have a lot of undeserving pressure on him, but it wonât be any different when at UK. So a good learning experience for him either way.
Iâm going to have to go back and watch some more of his games Jack. I havenât watched many where he uses his legs like you said, id like to see what heâs got in that department
Iâm going to have to go back and watch some more of his games Jack. I havenât watched many where he uses his legs like you said, id like to see what heâs got in that department
11-05-2018, 06:24 PM
2face Wrote:Nobody argue with Corbin fans, they are always right about everything. only been abotu 36 years since they won anything, at least till they made up some myth chamopiosnhips.
wish I could see the game of Belfry and Lex Cath. will be a good game
Hey brother.....95% of the Corbin fans on here are good posters.....much like Boyle Co and Belfry posters. Heck....most of the posters here are just passionate about their respective teams. . We all have our own thoughts and opinions on different aspects of the game. I for one, am just happy WE have a place to vent, discuss and gain some additional insight on differing points of view. Not saying it doesnât get frustrating at times😂😂😂. I think WE all are guilty at one time or another of stepping on toes, or coming to the board looking for an argument. Just enjoy the ride while it lasts 😊👍🏼🏈🏈
11-05-2018, 07:57 PM
FoSho Wrote:Beau Allen is LexCaths leading rusher but it's not because it's a structured attack. He runs out of pass coverage breakdowns (most times).
He is not a threat to run agains Belfry IMO. If he gets pressured he might but trust me, he doesn't want to.
Belfry is gonna have their hands full.
11-05-2018, 07:59 PM
2face Wrote:Nobody argue with Corbin fans, they are always right about everything. only been abotu 36 years since they won anything, at least till they made up some myth chamopiosnhips.
wish I could see the game of Belfry and Lex Cath. will be a good game
I don't like Corbin, but you have some kind of sick obsession with them :biglmao:
11-05-2018, 09:41 PM
I really see no chance of LC stopping Belfry's run game. Only Belfry can stop themselves by giving the ball away. I'm not saying they are unstoppable. That may very well happen down the road. Just not this game.
The only way LC will win is if this is a "whoever has the ball last" 78-74 type game. I don't see it evolving into that.
Fairy even 1st quarter, Belfry spaces it out comfortably over the next two quarters, LC tightens it up with a couple of late scores.
The only way LC will win is if this is a "whoever has the ball last" 78-74 type game. I don't see it evolving into that.
Fairy even 1st quarter, Belfry spaces it out comfortably over the next two quarters, LC tightens it up with a couple of late scores.
11-05-2018, 10:20 PM
Hurricane Storm Wrote:I really see no chance of LC stopping Belfry's run game. Only Belfry can stop themselves by giving the ball away. I'm not saying they are unstoppable. That may very well happen down the road. Just not this game.
The only way LC will win is if this is a "whoever has the ball last" 78-74 type game. I don't see it evolving into that.
Fairy even 1st quarter, Belfry spaces it out comfortably over the next two quarters, LC tightens it up with a couple of late scores.
I think the same thing, LC can't stop Belfry but if Belfry gives Beau Allen time to throw it like they did in a couple of games I watched on film they are also in trouble and it will end up a shoot out. Sure wish this game was online I think it will be a good one to watch I don't think there is a blowout going to happen. Good luck to both and hope they both come out healthy.
11-05-2018, 10:39 PM
Belfry +14.
Long bus ride back home for the knights. Itâs hard to pull out a win at CAM during the playoffs. Anyone have the stats of the teams that pulled out the W at CAM during the playoffs in the last 10-15 years?!?
Long bus ride back home for the knights. Itâs hard to pull out a win at CAM during the playoffs. Anyone have the stats of the teams that pulled out the W at CAM during the playoffs in the last 10-15 years?!?
11-05-2018, 11:10 PM
AverageJoe Wrote:Belfry +14.
Long bus ride back home for the knights. Itâs hard to pull out a win at CAM during the playoffs. Anyone have the stats of the teams that pulled out the W at CAM during the playoffs in the last 10-15 years?!?
There's been a few.
2006 Russell
2008 Breathitt Co.
2009 Sheldon Clark
11-06-2018, 12:05 AM
2face Wrote:Nobody argue with Corbin fans, they are always right about everything. only been abotu 36 years since they won anything, at least till they made up some myth chamopiosnhips.
wish I could see the game of Belfry and Lex Cath. will be a good game
Who is arguing? Haha. You keep surprising me.
11-06-2018, 12:56 AM
pjdoug Wrote:Belfry will have a difficult time trying to slow the passing game down if they don't keep pressure on the quarterback.
You are spot on pj. That has been our weakness all year long. We CANNOT put pressure on opposing QB's. DL is definitely our Achilles Heel. If we get knocked out of the playoffs it's going to be that very thing that gets us. The best teams in 3A can't, or would have a very hard time stopping our offensive. I really believe we can score on/with anyone in our class. We just have struggled all year on defense. I'm afraid Mr. Beau Allen is going to pick us apart! Not because of bad secondary play either. It's going to be because he'll have all day to throw. The best DB's on the planet can only cover so long before someone eventually comes open. If we blitz to try to get more pressure then it's only going to open up the quick slants/screen type plays that will get us. In the end, I do believe we pull out the win but I believe it'll be much closer than what alot of people think and will be a high scoring game. Nothing like the Lawrence County/Western Hills type score but I believe a score in the range of 56-45 final score with Belfry advancing. I may be wrong, our DL may come out and play aggressive, lights out defense with a couple forced fumbles, turnovers, and a few sacks and it turn into a rout but it's highly unlikely. Like I said, I think it'll be a close, high scoring game on Pond Creek come Friday night.
11-06-2018, 01:06 AM
FoSho Wrote:Boyle Co held them to something like 99 yards passing on 9-29 attempts.
Why you think Belfry has their hands full?
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11-06-2018, 01:42 AM
2face Wrote:Arguing
Your the genius on the 3-5 defense
Would have loved to see the pound puppies play Lexington Catholic so you could see actual skill like Mayfield, which turned out great.
Oh the defense that they RUN? hahah idiot. I donât think you understand the definition of arguing. But thatâs ok. You also said Lynn camp was the best team youâve seen play all year haha. Run along troll the big boys need to discuss football
11-06-2018, 02:40 AM
FoSho Wrote:Do I have more faith in you than you?
Lol
I think a lot of peopleâs perception- not saying YOU- about belfry is way off from what they actually are. Theyâre not underrated so to speak because theyâre ranked pretty high. But I think theyâre better than a lot of people give them credit for. Theyâre just as much a contender as Boyle or Corbin for the title. This game will be like the rest of the 2nd matchups in 3A. A little tougher, but not on the âupsetâ status. But I think in regards to how people âviewâ them this year, itâs a product of their own success. They arenât this dominant team they were 2-3 years ago. But looking back no one could touch that team. Even being below what that team is still makes them very very good. I know the fans enjoy being where they are now, on how theyâre looked at, because itâs amost if theyâre underestimated.
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