11-06-2018, 02:43 AM
fosho Wrote:do i have more faith in you than you?
Lol
lmao
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11-06-2018, 03:02 AM
Hurricane Storm Wrote:There's been a few.
2006 Russell
2008 Breathitt Co.
2009 Sheldon Clark
Only three teams over 12 years have went to CAM during the playoffs and beat them? I state again, "It's hard to go to WV, I mean CAM and come out with a victory!" :yikes::yikes: Should be a great atmosphere and hard fought game!
11-06-2018, 04:48 AM
#55PirateFan Wrote:You are spot on pj. That has been our weakness all year long. We CANNOT put pressure on opposing QB's. DL is definitely our Achilles Heel. If we get knocked out of the playoffs it's going to be that very thing that gets us. The best teams in 3A can't, or would have a very hard time stopping our offensive. I really believe we can score on/with anyone in our class. We just have struggled all year on defense. I'm afraid Mr. Beau Allen is going to pick us apart! Not because of bad secondary play either. It's going to be because he'll have all day to throw. The best DB's on the planet can only cover so long before someone eventually comes open. If we blitz to try to get more pressure then it's only going to open up the quick slants/screen type plays that will get us. In the end, I do believe we pull out the win but I believe it'll be much closer than what alot of people think and will be a high scoring game. Nothing like the Lawrence County/Western Hills type score but I believe a score in the range of 56-45 final score with Belfry advancing. I may be wrong, our DL may come out and play aggressive, lights out defense with a couple forced fumbles, turnovers, and a few sacks and it turn into a rout but it's highly unlikely. Like I said, I think it'll be a close, high scoring game on Pond Creek come Friday night.That's a good assessment, and Belfry could completely shut them down. I just know that quarterback has the potential to be dangerous.
11-06-2018, 04:51 AM
AverageJoe Wrote:Only three teams over 12 years have went to CAM during the playoffs and beat them? I state again, "It's hard to go to WV, I mean CAM and come out with a victory!" :yikes::yikes: Should be a great atmosphere and hard fought game!
nice jab
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11-06-2018, 05:00 AM
Lex Cath won't get enough possessions to beat the Pirates.
11-06-2018, 06:03 AM
Next year and the foreseeable future in 3a...CAL and Desales in the west and Belfry and Ashland in the east. I can argue for a couple of more teams, but not really.
11-06-2018, 06:06 AM
Back to this year. Belfry experimented briefly with some changes along the defensive front last week, and it will be interesting to see with the possibility of all the defensive bodies available this week, will they continue to throw some of the big boys to the D line? I think they probably will, but I also believe they need to get their best 11 on the field regardless of who it is.
11-06-2018, 06:20 AM
bucslover68 Wrote:Back to this year. Belfry experimented briefly with some changes along the defensive front last week, and it will be interesting to see with the possibility of all the defensive bodies available this week, will they continue to throw some of the big boys to the D line? I think they probably will, but I also believe they need to get their best 11 on the field regardless of who it is.
I agree, play best even if big guys go both ways. You donât get an second chance playoffs, but you guys know all about it during your run of terror on 3a. Belfry controls the clock and keeps lc qb off the field and win 42-21
11-06-2018, 06:27 AM
bucslover68 Wrote:Next year and the foreseeable future in 3a...CAL and Desales in the west and Belfry and Ashland in the east. I can argue for a couple of more teams, but not really.
Man I thought Ashland was staying 4A. Donât know why I thought that. 3A wonât be weak by any means. But I do think itâll go down a little compared to what it has been. But thatâs a different discussion.
To the poster who mentioned possessions good point, I didnât even think about turn overs and such, being a factor. I did think about belfrys offensive style, traditionally eating up clock and limiting the opponents time of possession when making my prediction. But thinking about it a little deeper. I donât think itâll be as lopsided as it usually is. Just because of the fact, I donât think LC will be able to stop them much, leading to quick scores. But turnovers could play a part, but correct me if Iâm wrong, belfry hasnât been turning it over much have they?
11-06-2018, 06:43 AM
Hound05 Wrote:Man I thought Ashland was staying 4A. Donât know why I thought that. 3A wonât be weak by any means. But I do think itâll go down a little compared to what it has been. But thatâs a different discussion.
To the poster who mentioned possessions good point, I didnât even think about turn overs and such, being a factor. I did think about belfrys offensive style, traditionally eating up clock and limiting the opponents time of possession when making my prediction. But thinking about it a little deeper. I donât think itâll be as lopsided as it usually is. Just because of the fact, I donât think LC will be able to stop them much, leading to quick scores. But turnovers could play a part, but correct me if Iâm wrong, belfry hasnât been turning it over much have they?
First game of the year they lost 4. 3 by the FB and one by the QB. That was the loss to Huntington when Browning was out. Only occasional fumbles since then.
11-06-2018, 06:49 AM
pjdoug Wrote:That's a good assessment, and Belfry could completely shut them down. I just know that quarterback has the potential to be dangerous.
Beau Allen is a football playing STUD! The kid really does have the "IT" factor. And as long as he's on the field, Catholic has a chance.
11-06-2018, 07:04 AM
bucslover68 Wrote:Back to this year. Belfry experimented briefly with some changes along the defensive front last week, and it will be interesting to see with the possibility of all the defensive bodies available this week, will they continue to throw some of the big boys to the D line? I think they probably will, but I also believe they need to get their best 11 on the field regardless of who it is.
I've been saying this all year. IMO, against teams like Lex.Cath, Boyle, and Corbin, play that massive and very skilled O-Line both ways. Their teenagers, they can handle it. And I know what some are going to say, "Oh what if they get hurt"! Oh well it's part of the game and they could just as easily get hurt playing offense. It's not like some of these guys haven't had any experiance and success playing defense. Rash and Lawson have already seen limited action on defense this year and Wolford played iron man football in the 8th grade and his freshman year as the starting center and nose guard. Actually I think Ethan is a better NG than he is a center. It's the playoffs, lose and its over! So if it were me, from here on out, Wolford would play NG and Rash and Lawson would play beside him at the DT spots, play both sides of the line. I guarantee you that the QB, any QB in 3A, would be getting pressured and that inside rush would damn near be obsolete. What do we have to lose? I know Coach likes to put small, speedy guys on the defensive front. It works against teams in our district but I promise you it's not going to work against the Boyle and Corbins in 3A. If we do this it will free up our LB's to roam the middle of the field in passing situations. Just makes to much sense not to do this, atleast to me it does.
11-06-2018, 07:23 AM
Only chance LexCath has is to score first and try to outscore them. If Belfry gets up a couple of scores the game is over.
11-06-2018, 07:29 AM
64black&gold Wrote:Only chance LexCath has is to score first and try to outscore them. If Belfry gets up a couple of scores the game is over.
The way Lex.Cath can score quick as they do, I dont see them being completely out of it unless it completely gets out of hand. And I really don't see that happening.
11-06-2018, 03:05 PM
#55PirateFan Wrote:I've been saying this all year. IMO, against teams like Lex.Cath, Boyle, and Corbin, play that massive and very skilled O-Line both ways. Their teenagers, they can handle it. And I know what some are going to say, "Oh what if they get hurt"! Oh well it's part of the game and they could just as easily get hurt playing offense. It's not like some of these guys haven't had any experiance and success playing defense. Rash and Lawson have already seen limited action on defense this year and Wolford played iron man football in the 8th grade and his freshman year as the starting center and nose guard. Actually I think Ethan is a better NG than he is a center. It's the playoffs, lose and its over! So if it were me, from here on out, Wolford would play NG and Rash and Lawson would play beside him at the DT spots, play both sides of the line. I guarantee you that the QB, any QB in 3A, would be getting pressured and that inside rush would damn near be obsolete. What do we have to lose? I know Coach likes to put small, speedy guys on the defensive front. It works against teams in our district but I promise you it's not going to work against the Boyle and Corbins in 3A. If we do this it will free up our LB's to roam the middle of the field in passing situations. Just makes to much sense not to do this, atleast to me it does.
Couple of things....
LexCath and Boyle have good OL and occasionally have kids go both ways. We've been doing it most of the season. While I agree, putting your "best players" on the DL too might have been the right call but against a skilled and well coached team like Boyle, it would be a tall task to ask them to play at that high of a level without getting reps in the season.
Getting a rush on the QB isn't as easy as you think it is. The next two offenses Belfry plays are not typical high school passing games. Both QBs can beat you with their arms. If you can't get to them very quickly, it will be a TD, especially with the Rebels. The Rebels are VERY fast and once a pass is caught in the open field it's bad news for the D. They run great routes and have great hands.
It's like us with our D. How are we going to play vs Belfry? Stack the box? Play straight up like every game? I'm not sure. Last years team we'd have played straight up but would have been successful, this year some injuries have taken their toll so we'll see if we get a matchup with the Pirates. It may have a lot to do with how we perform vs Lawrence Co vs the run. The big thing about our D is our DBs can play man vs Belfry WR if we decide to stack the box.
11-06-2018, 05:39 PM
FoSho Wrote:Couple of things....
LexCath and Boyle have good OL and occasionally have kids go both ways. We've been doing it most of the season. While I agree, putting your "best players" on the DL too might have been the right call but against a skilled and well coached team like Boyle, it would be a tall task to ask them to play at that high of a level without getting reps in the season.
Getting a rush on the QB isn't as easy as you think it is. The next two offenses Belfry plays are not typical high school passing games. Both QBs can beat you with their arms. If you can't get to them very quickly, it will be a TD, especially with the Rebels. The Rebels are VERY fast and once a pass is caught in the open field it's bad news for the D. They run great routes and have great hands.
It's like us with our D. How are we going to play vs Belfry? Stack the box? Play straight up like every game? I'm not sure. Last years team we'd have played straight up but would have been successful, this year some injuries have taken their toll so we'll see if we get a matchup with the Pirates. It may have a lot to do with how we perform vs Lawrence Co vs the run. The big thing about our D is our DBs can play man vs Belfry WR if we decide to stack the box.
If Belfry and Boyle play and Boyle comes out in some unique Defense they haven't played all season then I will really like Belfry's chances.
"Stacking the box" (which we can all debate what that actually means) rarely is successful against Belfry. Often times it becomes paralysis by analysis and you have kids playing their position like they have never been asked to play it before. Assignments get missed, people end up out of position, and if Belfry is able to get to the second level a run that should be a 15 yard gain suddenly turns into a 50-yard gain.
The teams who defend Belfry the best are the teams who essentially play their base Defense or slightly modify it. If you want to commit an extra safety or turn an unused Corner into an extra LB, that is fine, but when you see a 4-3 team suddenly putting 6 men on the ground..usually those are the games Haywood licks his lips at.
The reason Central has traditionally been able to play Belfry so well is they have great LB play and enough speed to get outside when needed. If you get your LB trapped in the middle of the field or with bodies lying around him, those outside runs and counters suddenly open up in a big way.
Knowing Chuck Smith, I expect he will take his chances with what Boyle does best and not try to reinvent the wheel.
11-06-2018, 07:14 PM
FoSho Wrote:Couple of things....
LexCath and Boyle have good OL and occasionally have kids go both ways. We've been doing it most of the season. While I agree, putting your "best players" on the DL too might have been the right call but against a skilled and well coached team like Boyle, it would be a tall task to ask them to play at that high of a level without getting reps in the season.
Getting a rush on the QB isn't as easy as you think it is. The next two offenses Belfry plays are not typical high school passing games. Both QBs can beat you with their arms. If you can't get to them very quickly, it will be a TD, especially with the Rebels. The Rebels are VERY fast and once a pass is caught in the open field it's bad news for the D. They run great routes and have great hands.
It's like us with our D. How are we going to play vs Belfry? Stack the box? Play straight up like every game? I'm not sure. Last years team we'd have played straight up but would have been successful, this year some injuries have taken their toll so we'll see if we get a matchup with the Pirates. It may have a lot to do with how we perform vs Lawrence Co vs the run. The big thing about our D is our DBs can play man vs Belfry WR if we decide to stack the box.
Lol! Our WR's will surprise you. I hope and pray Coach Smith just plays man on them.
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