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Lex Cath@ Belfry 11/09
#91
I agree with EKU in the sense that totally loading it up usually is not that successful against the Pirates. I also agree that Coach Smith is a mastermind and will play Belfry, if that game takes place, exactly how he feels best suited to this years team.

Also, for any team playing Belfry, not specifically geared toward Boyle, but Belfry’s rushing attack is one that rarely is seen by other teams. Belfry rarely gets stopped and by this I mean totally stonewalled on the ground. I can count on one hand the times this has happened. 2006 against Russell 2010 Central and this year against Huntington. There are certainly others but you get my point. It usually comes down to 1. Hanging on to the ball and 2. Finishing drives. Against JC Belfry only had one fumble but could not convert all their time consuming drives. It’s like comparing running teams like Garrard and Lawrence to Belfry. Same philosophy but Belfry “does what they do” much better. Last year against Central Belfry has over 300 yards on the ground but when you gift several scores it’s hard to overcome. Think about saying Boyle is just your basic spread, well- balance team. Well so is Pikeville but Boyle brings that extra dynamic and championship experience that other teams just don’t have.
#92
#55PirateFan Wrote:Lol! Our WR's will surprise you. I hope and pray Coach Smith just plays man on them.

If he does it's because he knows it'll work. But we don't play man. 😜
#93
bucslover68 Wrote:I agree with EKU in the sense that totally loading it up usually is not that successful against the Pirates. I also agree that Coach Smith is a mastermind and will play Belfry, if that game takes place, exactly how he feels best suited to this years team.

Also, for any team playing Belfry, not specifically geared toward Boyle, but Belfry’s rushing attack is one that rarely is seen by other teams. Belfry rarely gets stopped and by this I mean totally stonewalled on the ground. I can count on one hand the times this has happened. 2006 against Russell 2010 Central and this year against Huntington. There are certainly others but you get my point. It usually comes down to 1. Hanging on to the ball and 2. Finishing drives. Against JC Belfry only had one fumble but could not convert all their time consuming drives. It’s like comparing running teams like Garrard and Lawrence to Belfry. Same philosophy but Belfry “does what they do” much better. Last year against Central Belfry has over 300 yards on the ground but when you gift several scores it’s hard to overcome. Think about saying Boyle is just your basic spread, well- balance team. Well so is Pikeville but Boyle brings that extra dynamic and championship experience that other teams just don’t have.

Great post and point taken.

Boyle doesn't really have set offense these past couple of years. We can run just about anything and run it well. Belfry is King at what they do. They are well coached and fundamentally sound. They have some speed and play the game as it should be played. It'll be a great game if it happens.

I just wish this week would hurry up.
#94
FoSho Wrote:Great post and point taken.

Boyle doesn't really have set offense these past couple of years. We can run just about anything and run it well. Belfry is King at what they do. They are well coached and fundamentally sound. They have some speed and play the game as it should be played. It'll be a great game if it happens.

I just wish this week would hurry up.

Totally agree. I hope it happens because I think it can potentially be a really good game, but regardless of the outcome, the atmosphere would be something else if the weather will ever cooperate lol. We have had the worst luck and this Friday is calling for 100 pct chance for the LexCath game.
#95
bucslover68 Wrote:Totally agree. I hope it happens because I think it can potentially be a really good game, but regardless of the outcome, the atmosphere would be something else if the weather will ever cooperate lol. We have had the worst luck and this Friday is calling for 100 pct chance for the LexCath game.

Forecast says "few morning showers" and "chilly at night", mostly cloudy High 46, Low 29.

Seems we've had rain every Friday.

Good news is if we both survive we got a high of 61 and low of 37 and a 30% chance of rain in the day, partly cloudy for the next Friday if we play (Danville forecast).

Hope both games have safe travels and no injuries! Good luck!
#96
FoSho Wrote:Great post and point taken.

Boyle doesn't really have set offense these past couple of years. We can run just about anything and run it well. Belfry is King at what they do. They are well coached and fundamentally sound. They have some speed and play the game as it should be played. It'll be a great game if it happens.

I just wish this week would hurry up.

Don’t do that FoSho and wish your life away it goes to fast anyway. If it rains and more than likely it will in eastern Kentucky I think that hurts Lexington Catholic more so than Belfry but we just have to wait and see. Still don’t see Catholic stopping Belfry’s run game but who knows what will happen, thats why they play the games.
#97
Catholic can not play with Belfry.
#98
bucslover68 Wrote:Totally agree. I hope it happens because I think it can potentially be a really good game, but regardless of the outcome, the atmosphere would be something else if the weather will ever cooperate lol. We have had the worst luck and this Friday is calling for 100 pct chance for the LexCath game.

Off the top of your head how many games have you had that’s been dry. I can count 3 maybe 4 out of 11 with no rain. One good thing about it I guess, no one in central or eastern Ky can use rain as an excuse. They’ve got more than enough experience in this year unfortunately
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Hound05 Wrote:Off the top of your head how many games have you had that’s been dry. I can count 3 maybe 4 out of 11 with no rain. One good thing about it I guess, no one in central or eastern Ky can use rain as an excuse. They’ve got more than enough experience in this year unfortunately

Any team that uses the pass as a large part of their offense (Boyle, Corbin, LexCath, Caldwell to name a few) is greatly effected by rain. Is it an excuse? Of course not. No such thing. But reality says it can make an impact on the outcome of a game.
I have a confession to make I like you Belfry fans a whole lot better than I do most of the Lexington Catholic fans, don’t get me wrong Catholic has got a couple fans that seem to be stand up guys, but in all honesty I’m rooting for Catholic all the way because if Boyle gets by Lawrence I sure as as h-ll don’t want to drive 3-4 hours to Belfry next Friday night, then watch a 2-3 hour ball game, and drive 3-4 hours back home the same night, I guess you could say I’m semi retired and that’s more work than I do in two days.
FoSho Wrote:They never had a chance vs Boyle.

They won't have a chance vs Belfry.

You said The Dawgs didn't have a chance in the last game Smile
Belfry by 30
Wildcat45 Wrote:Belfry by 30

^ Confusednicker:
FoSho Wrote:Any team that uses the pass as a large part of their offense (Boyle, Corbin, LexCath, Caldwell to name a few) is greatly effected by rain. Is it an excuse? Of course not. No such thing. But reality says it can make an impact on the outcome of a game.

We’ve played enough in it this year that it should become a 2nd nature for them to know how to play in it.
hound05 Wrote:we’ve played enough in it this year that it should become a 2nd nature for them to know how to play in it.

rain alters the way the ball flies in the air. Its not something you "get used to" it is what it is!
FoSho Wrote:rain alters the way the ball flies in the air. Its not something you "get used to" it is what it is!

Oh I agree the rain affects the ball. But I do believe you can get use to playing in that type of weather as well. Especially this year where a majority of games were in the rain. Almost every position has to make adjustment during inclement weather. What I am saying is the more you play in it the more comfortable you are in it. It’s like playing in the humidity of Florida in college. They are more accustomed to it because they play in almost every day. Cold weather not so much. While the rain is different, and you’re right, you never really get “use to it” so to speak. As much as teams have played in this year they’re more inclined to make the adjustments needed just simply from experience. Hopefully it’ll eventually dry up. If I were a betting man, my money would be on the fans bringing their ponchos from here on out. If I were a belfry fan, I’d be doing a rain dance in pond creek. I don’t think they’ll need much help, but it does favor them more than catholic.
Hound05 Wrote:Oh I agree the rain affects the ball. But I do believe you can get use to playing in that type of weather as well. Especially this year where a majority of games were in the rain. Almost every position has to make adjustment during inclement weather. What I am saying is the more you play in it the more comfortable you are in it. It’s like playing in the humidity of Florida in college. They are more accustomed to it because they play in almost every day. Cold weather not so much. While the rain is different, and you’re right, you never really get “use to it” so to speak. As much as teams have played in this year they’re more inclined to make the adjustments needed just simply from experience. Hopefully it’ll eventually dry up. If I were a betting man, my money would be on the fans bringing their ponchos from here on out. If I were a belfry fan, I’d be doing a rain dance in pond creek. I don’t think they’ll need much help, but it does favor them more than catholic.

Of course you get more used to it.

For example.....my point is that LexCaths ability to win at Belfry is greatly diminished if it's raining at gametime, that's just a fact.

That's all I'm saying.
I agree. That’s why I said belfry should do a rain dance. Not that they will need it I don’t think. But my original post said it should “be 2nd nature by now” because of the games played in it. Like you said, you “get more use to it”, and as much as we have got use to it, it should be 2nd nature. I never said it doesn’t effect anyone, of course it does. We’re saying the same thing I think with different verbiage. One thing I can’t comment on is playing on artificial grass in the rain. Never played on it in those conditions. Snow, not rain. So I don’t know how that’ll work with both teams. Personally I’m not a fan of turf. Give me the real thing. But I see why people have it and why kids now days like it. Seeing some of the fields lately after all of this rain it might have paid its self off by now to have it haha. Luckily our field is still in great condition. Fingers crossed it stays that way for at least another couple of weeks. But that’s for another thread. Good luck belfry. Rooting for ya.
#55PirateFan Wrote:The way Lex.Cath can score quick as they do, I dont see them being completely out of it unless it completely gets out of hand. And I really don't see that happening.

Yeah but Belfry can pound for 3 yards at a time a use almost a whole qtr on a drive. LC can score quick but they can't if they are not on the field.
64black&gold Wrote:Yeah but Belfry can pound for 3 yards at a time a use almost a whole qtr on a drive. LC can score quick but they can't if they are not on the field.

TOP will definitely be one sided regardless of who you ends up advancing
Hound05 Wrote:TOP will definitely be one sided regardless of who you ends up advancing

LexCath will score quickly or be 3 and out.
Jack Lambert;2183682[B Wrote:]I have a confession to make I like you Belfry fans a whole lot better than I do most of the Lexington Catholic fans[/B], don’t get me wrong Catholic has got a couple fans that seem to be stand up guys, but in all honesty I’m rooting for Catholic all the way because if Boyle gets by Lawrence I sure as as h-ll don’t want to drive 3-4 hours to Belfry next Friday night, then watch a 2-3 hour ball game, and drive 3-4 hours back home the same night, I guess you could say I’m semi retired and that’s more work than I do in two days.

Jack, that's kind of like saying someone is the nicest guy in prison. As far as the game, like I have said before, IMO, if Belfry hangs on to the ball, they win.
64black&gold Wrote:Yeah but Belfry can pound for 3 yards at a time a use almost a whole qtr on a drive. LC can score quick but they can't if they are not on the field.

They'll need to force some turnovers for sure.
Belfry wins this one, primarily, in my opinion, because they have they capability to control the clock and methodically run the ball. High octane offensive football is all well and good but it plays better in August and September. Championship caliber teams have to play smash mouth defense and run the ball. This seems to personify Belfry in this match-up.
Well one good thing, from the sounds of everyone, if we are wrong about this game no one will be left to make us eat crow hahaha
I'm curious on time of possession for Belfry this year. This hasn't been the typical "3 yards and a cloud of sand" team. Run oriented, no question. But they've had so many quick scoring drives (17 1-play scoring drives I think), that the offense just hasn't been on the field much to consume time, except during running clocks.

Conversely, the defense seems to be on the field much more. Though time of possession may balance out some by the above running clock situations.
FoSho Wrote:Of course you get more used to it.

For example.....my point is that LexCaths ability to win at Belfry is greatly diminished if it's raining at gametime, that's just a fact.

That's all I'm saying.

Agree 100%, a predominant passing team will struggle. This kid can scramble I have watched film, that being said I can move fast when a bear is chasing me also. The weather will be around a 2 score swing, I used it in my pick 42-21 belfry.
Hurricane Storm Wrote:I'm curious on time of possession for Belfry this year. This hasn't been the typical "3 yards and a cloud of sand" team. Run oriented, no question. But they've had so many quick scoring drives (17 1-play scoring drives I think), that the offense just hasn't been on the field much to consume time, except during running clocks.

Conversely, the defense seems to be on the field much more. Though time of possession may balance out some by the above running clock situations.

I don’t have any real numbers as far as TOP is concerned. I’m not sure if Belfry even keeps that stat. They definitely dominated it against JC, but they couldn’t consistently finish with points. Against Pikeville, the Panthers controlled the TOP, but Belfry big-played them for the win. You are correct in that 17 drives this season have been one play scoring drives. Pretty crazy stat, but down the road
Belfry may have to play some keep away.
Coach haywood is always harping about getting reps and having to run plays for that reason. i think he was secretly tickled to death with having to sustain drives against johnson central.
AngryMob Wrote:Coach haywood is always harping about getting reps and having to run plays for that reason. i think he was secretly tickled to death with having to sustain drives against johnson central.

Agreed. I’m sure he loved calling that game from an offensive play standpoint.

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