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6 classes or 5 state sectionals?
#1
What would you rather have?




The current six class system we have now with teams spread out across the state....

OR

Have five state sectionals with no classes. The sectionals would be geographically based and not classify schools be enrollment.




And I realize not everybody is gonna agree with the way I have the state divided up.... but for the sake of this discussion, you should get the idea of how the state would be sectioned out.


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#2
No
#3
I do not like idea of sectionals with no classes. Football needs to be broken into classes. However, six classes is too many.
IMO a good compromise would be is what they do in North Carolina. We have four classes during the regular season, with each conference with approximately six teams, conference champ gets an automatic bid to the playoffs. When the playoffs start each class is split half based on enrollment with 12 teams in 1A, 1AA, 4A, and 4AA. 16 teams in 2A, 2AA, 3A, 3AA. Seed the teams at the beginning of the playoffs, not in semifinals nonsense.
There is less travel the farthest our school had to travel last was 3 hrs the entire season, that was the state championship game.
Not sure if Kentucky has enough schools for this to work. This format does reduce travel greatly.
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#4
I'm good with five (or even back to four) classes. Small schools just can't consistently compete with the large schools in the state without class system. In football, small city and rural schools just don't have the talent pool (even with transfers, I know someone will bring that up) that the larger schools have available to them. IMO
#5
Pulaski/Scott/Fayette don't want none. 😎🏈
#6
I prefer the current system we have in place over the sectional system. While nothing is ever going to be completely fair, this is as close as we are going to get unless we have a different classes for the private schools and I'm not completely sure I like that idea.
#7
This would create way less parity than there is now. CKY would basically be the only sectional that would have more than 3 teams capable of winning it, and even that may be a stretch.

5 classes is the way to go.
#8
4 is the best. Would settle for 5 at this point. 6 is insane.
#9
Once again we are discussing this!! You all say less classes but you are only thinking of yourself! This is about the kids and letting kids play a kids game! Let them play as many games as possible because after they play that last one their senior year 95% of them never put on pads again! It’s about the kids not us !!
#10
I say just leave it the way it is. KHSAA already does enough "tweeking" with the playoffs year in and year out to keep everyone confused the way it is!
#11
I really can’t believe some of your guys outlook on this.They are kids playing a game! If a kid plays dour years and never wins a game that’s 40 games he gets to playing! If everyone in the state made the playoffs he gets 44 games! You wanna be the guy that goes to him and says...we are taking 4 games from you because we don’t wanna watch a blowout and we don’t feel it’s needed for you to get those extra 4 games? Better yet...most all of us played football on here!! Would you want someone to take four of your games away that you played in?? I don’t understand this thought process at all
#12
I’m good with 5 or 4 classes but one class needs to be nothing but private schools. It would cure a lot if they were forced in to their own class.
#13
Like the 4 class system, could live with 5 class, but no way 6. Tired of it.
#14
no
#15
I’d be fine with 6 classes. If 5 were public and private.... or use a multiplier. 5 sectionals just furthers the problem we have now to me
#16
They should go back to 4 classes. However, there should be a private class separate. Everyone should NOT make the playoffs. The district champ and runner-up should make up the playoffs. I’ll let anybody else set the region areas of which region plays which. All of the 6 class mess is just a khsaa money maker. Why should a 0-10 team drive 3 hours and get the clock ran on them?
#17
four quarters Wrote:They should go back to 4 classes. However, there should be a private class separate. Everyone should NOT make the playoffs. The district champ and runner-up should make up the playoffs. I’ll let anybody else set the region areas of which region plays which. All of the 6 class mess is just a khsaa money maker. Why should a 0-10 team drive 3 hours and get the clock ran on them?

I’m not convinced it’s a money maker in a lot of those games, usually small crowds, have to split the gate, pay officials more for playoffs, then one school at least is paying gas and a driver.
#18
:Cheerlead 6 :Cheerlead
#19
fridaynightfights Wrote:I’m good with 5 or 4 classes but one class needs to be nothing but private schools. It would cure a lot if they were forced in to their own class.

What he said...private schools need their own class
#20
I'm good to the way it is to a point but a regional championship should mean more than it currently does, the current system has a lot of everybody deserves a trophy to it also...
#21
single shot Wrote:What he said...private schools need their own class

Yelp
#22
single shot Wrote:What he said...private schools need their own class

That's fine but it sure is fun making sure LexCath makes it no further than the Regional Finals every year.

😬
#23
If they want to allow every team to make the playoffs, then they need to go all in on this idea. You currently have 223 teams counting Sayre, who is playing varsity level football this year, which leaves you one team shy of having seven classes with thirty two teams each in it. With the way Louisville, Bowling Green, Lexington and Richmond, just to name a few, are growing; you are going to have another high built and opened within the next five years not to mention the rumors going around about Wolfe County supposedly trying to get their program started up.
#24
FoSho Wrote:That's fine but it sure is fun making sure LexCath makes it no further than the Regional Finals every year.

😬

Boyle sure has had the upper hand in the series lately and I know how big a rivalry that has become but that series didn't exactly come to mind when I made that statement.
#25
I think the settings of district teams shouldn’t be 4 years. Middlesboro was in a district with Somerset, Danville and Lex Cath I think. Not necessarily easy trips to make.
#26
I got a question maybe someone can help me out with! We always talk about travel ....how far it is for some of these teams and there is no need for 4 teams from one district because when a 4 seed travels to a 1 it’s a blow out and to far to travel! Most teams play about 30 games a season in basketball and the travel from one end of the state to the other multiple times and travel expense is never brought up...wonder why? And don’t tell there are more kids on a football team cause you still send that same yellow bus with 15 kids just like you do when you send 50 for a football team Hahahah! Just a thought that maybe someone can help me with!
#27
My thoughts for this concept were to place the traditional private school powers (I use this term for those that don't know exactly which schools are actually private) in the area where other private school powers are.

Think of the match-ups each sectional would have..... these are just some of the better teams in each sectional that are off the top of my head.

WKY:
Franklin-Simpson
South Warren
Bowling Green
Mayfield

Louisville:
Trinity
St. X
CA-L
DeSales
Central
Male

NKY:
Cov. Cath.
Highlands
Beechwood
New Cath.

CKY:
Scott County
Douglass
Boyle County
Danville

EKY:
Johnson Central
Belfry
Corbin
Pikeville



I realize some of these teams already play in their district or as a rivalry game, but imagine having the equivalent of a state championship on the line.


Let's just say that Pikeville & Belfry played for the equivalent of a state championship.... Pike county would be a war zone. I would have to imagine the same thing would be true for Boyle County vs. Danville or Cov. Cath vs. Highlands.
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#28
fridaynightfights Wrote:I’m good with 5 or 4 classes but one class needs to be nothing but private schools. It would cure a lot if they were forced in to their own class.

Hound05 Wrote:I’d be fine with 6 classes. If 5 were public and private.... or use a multiplier. 5 sectionals just furthers the problem we have now to me

four quarters Wrote:They should go back to 4 classes. However, there should be a private class separate.

single shot Wrote:What he said...private schools need their own class

The thought of a private school only class is laughable. There's only 14 football-playing private schools in the entire state and more than half of them are 1A/2A. People complain about the 'unlevel playing field' but have no trouble telling Bishop Brossart they have to beat Trinity to win a title?

A multiplier would be a fair and a workable solution, but y'all dreaming if you think KHSAA will ever section off privates.
#29
CarzyRock Wrote:The thought of a private school only class is laughable. There's only 14 football-playing private schools in the entire state and more than half of them are 1A/2A. People complain about the 'unlevel playing field' but have no trouble telling Bishop Brossart they have to beat Trinity to win a title?

A multiplier would be a fair and a workable solution, but y'all dreaming if you think KHSAA will ever section off privates.

It's really not even that bad in Kentucky. Go look at some other states that don't separate public and private schools and see how much parity there is.
#30
CarzyRock Wrote:There's only 14 football-playing private schools in the entire state

Trinity
St. Xavier
CA-L
DeSales
Holy Cross (Louisville)

Cov. Cath.
New Cath.
Bishop Brossart
Holy Cross (Covington)

Lex. Cath.
LCA

Owensboro Cath.



There's 12.... who am I missing?
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