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Sayre 21 Pikeville 6
#31
(11-23-2024, 12:31 PM)RAMDAD50 Wrote:
(11-23-2024, 11:07 AM)bac2369 Wrote: Someone check on my buddy jet and see if he is okay.. we may need to get together and have some cold beverages and talk about what could of been…
You won’t hear from Jet till next year
Can you believe somebody would just disappear without a word like that? Unbelievable!
#32
(11-23-2024, 01:52 PM)RAM-A-DEVIL Wrote:
(11-23-2024, 12:31 PM)RAMDAD50 Wrote:
(11-23-2024, 11:07 AM)bac2369 Wrote: Someone check on my buddy jet and see if he is okay.. we may need to get together and have some cold beverages and talk about what could of been…
You won’t hear from Jet till next year
Can you believe somebody would just disappear without a word like that? Unbelievable!
Considering on who it is, yes. Yes I can
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#33
(11-23-2024, 01:01 AM)RAM-A-DEVIL Wrote: Sayre still hasn’t played anybody.  Come on guys. Did you see that Pikeville team out there tonight? Sayre did not beat a good team tonight. Don’t get mad Pikeville fans but that team that played Sayre tonight looked like one of those heavyweight champions that fought way too many fights. Lethargic, beat up, slow, zero energy. This was not the same team Raceland faced early nor the team that took Ironton down to the wire. Poor Brendan Anthony looked like an old man running the ball tonight. 14 was hoping around on 1 leg trying to do the best he could. I'm not gonna gloat that Pikeville lost. But to say Sayre is the favorite because of this win is a joke.  This Pikeville team didn’t even resemble the team they were early in the season. I’ll make the bet that over half the players playing for Pikeville tonight were playing injured. That’s not counting the players that were already out for the season.
I never agree with you on anything rad, but totally agree with you today, lol! So many injuries (that did not cost them the game) and a huge lack of energy and determination.
#34
I'll post my comments later but Pikeville losing sure brought the turds out...
#35
who gave the old OC the keys back?????
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#36
I wish I could say I’m glad that Pikeville is gone. But I’m not. I really thought this was the year we would finally get them in the big one. Regardless of when it was in the playoffs. But the team Sayre played last night, wasn’t Pikeville. It was a team that dressed like Pikeville. Built like Pikeville, but I think they were AI generated imposters. RAD said it best they looked like a heavy weight that was punched out, too slow to defend, too tired to punch back. But let’s not act like Sayre just totally dominated the game. Special teams was an issue all year for the Panthers. It hurt them last night big time. Sayre only managed 2 offensive TDs. Sayers defense suprises me more than anything. I still think though, this game is less about a tidal uprising of Sayre and more of a tidal wave tsunami of a letdown of the Pikeville Panthers from Mac all the way down to the water boys. It’s been off all year and I hate it for the super talented group of kids they had on that team. That being said…I’d give a large sack of money for JPs input on the game/season!!!hahahahaha
#37
What we have here is a failure to communicate. Anthony had the heart of a lion and left everything on the field. That didn't lead these Panthers, and there didn't seem to be vocal leader on either side of the ball. Everyone knew Anthony would play every play with all he had even the other team, but the players around him didn't step up for the team. They resembled a group of individuals, not a team. "Look what I did and NEVER look what I didn't do because I have this excuse!" The names change but the expectations stay the same! This "team" did not meet expectations. They didn't learn how to step up when adversity hit and I don't think all of them know the difference between pain or injury.

I know the program will return but this was a step backwards.
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#38
I really believe if you took Anthony off that offense this year Pikeville would have averaged less than 14 points a game with that scheme against the schedule they played.
It is one of the most vanilla schemes I have ever seen.
#39
(11-23-2024, 05:12 PM)WestCoast Wrote: I really believe if you took Anthony off that offense this year Pikeville would have averaged less than 14 points a game with that scheme against the schedule they played.
It is one of the most vanilla schemes I have ever seen.
Or….it would’ve forced the OC to be more creative. You get real complacent when you have a 35 in the backfield to hand the ball off to and you stop developing your offensive. Dont believe me? Look at Racelands last two state championship games where we had an excellent running back but we wanted to run our qb that was 220 pounds cause it worked ….until the championship game. In those two game Lundy hand more carries combined then any other player for the Rams. The same thing happened to Pikeville this year and it started last year. Gotta spread the ball around
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#40
(11-23-2024, 04:07 PM)Khalisimo Wrote: who gave the old OC the keys back?????
That was the question of the night ? It really was that obvious
#41
(11-23-2024, 05:19 PM)RAMDAD50 Wrote:
(11-23-2024, 05:12 PM)WestCoast Wrote: I really believe if you took Anthony off that offense this year Pikeville would have averaged less than 14 points a game with that scheme against the schedule they played.
It is one of the most vanilla schemes I have ever seen.
Or….it would’ve forced the OC to be more creative. You get real complacent when you have a 35 in the backfield to hand the ball off to and you stop developing your offensive. Dont believe me? Look at Racelands last two state championship games where we had an excellent running back but we wanted to run our qb that was 220 pounds cause it worked ….until the championship game. In those two game Lundy hand more carries combined then any other player for the Rams. The same thing happened to Pikeville this year and it started last year. Gotta spread the ball around
You can honestly say the same about Raceland this year too.  Up until Stiltner got hurt the plan was feed him the ball and it wasn’t working.  When he had to sit out it forced us to have more diversity in offense.  I hate seeing anyone get injured but him going out early in the season might have been the best thing to happen to Raceland offensively.
#42
Like I’ve said, 35 can’t be replaced but he didn’t play in the LCA game. Pikeville should have won that game. Few blunders cost them. Over 400 yards offense. Scored 4 TDs against one of the better teams on the schedule. It’s not the talent. Pikeville has plenty. Scheme and different play callers in different games.
#43
I said in the preseason that Pikeville was too one dimensional and had relied on Anthony too much. Everyone said I was crazy when I pointed out the facts, that he had almost 70% of their offense the last two years and had almost triple the amount of plays from scrimmage than the next guy. But he had no true WR threat outside to keep teams from stacking the box like Birchfield did with Hensley and Lochart (sp). Pikeville was super talented across the board. Their Jr High team is as well, but this is a big issue for Pikeville right now. I would think and I BELIEVE they will be back to their old ways sooner than later…BUT, we have seen power houses crumble, seemingly over night and disappearing into the abyss before. I just hope for the sake of 1A that Max doesn’t let that happen.

#35 is a alpha competitor. Plays balls to the wall every snap. His motor didn’t change, but the results did. The kid was worked to death. Hard to watch really. His Mobility this year was nothing like it was last year. I hate to say it but they took advantage of just being able to hand him the ball.
#44
They have WRs. Gotta use them. I think you’ll see some next year and wonder where they came from but they were either hurt or not used. But the offense looked much different against LCA, Ironton, GRC, and Boyd than any other games. Next year is a question mark right now but after that I like Pikeville for another good 5 year stretch.
#45
I’ve read a bunch between this thread and the other thread and I must say this.. Pikeville is/was a one horse team. They solely depended Anthony and didn’t develop no one else to take the load off. He was used as much as Max Johnson was used a few years ago. Pikeville has been that way for 2 years now. Last year no one could stop it bc of Pikeville line and having 1 play maker on the outside to take pressure off of him. Pikeville finally ran into someone who could stop it/ endure it. Pikeville also didn’t have THAT guy on the outside to easy the pressure off. The line got better as the season progressed, but they wasn’t bad before. But I also want to say it’s absolutely uncalled for to say no one on that Pikeville team stepped up.. That is a total disrespect to those kids who played last night and all season that give it there all. So if your gonna put blame u put it on the coaching staff because it’s there fault not the kids…

I also want to say Congratulations to Sayre on getting the biggest win of the programs history. This senior Class I knew was gonna be special after watching them when they was in the district with Pikeville/Hazard. This group is very talented and skilled and they proved it last night with the BETTER team winning.
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#46
I've been thinking about Pikeville all day today. Something has been amiss all season. Just not the same Pikeville juggernaut. The talent is there, just seems like chemistry, motivation, lack of usual Pikeville swagger, maybe even some internal issues. Usually when a squad doesn't live up to expectations, there are things going on. Something was just off all season. I saw it happen to Corbin in 2021. Massive talent and potential but failed to live up to expectations because of non-team agendas. Just a thought. Pikeville will be fine moving forward if they can sort out what the problem was this season.
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#47
That is an excellent post OSH. Right on the money IMO
#48
A 12-pack and 3 Tylenol PMs and I was over it and asleep before midnight lol. Not in the cards this year. More thoughts later. Main thought is as weak as everyone including me likes to say Class A is, there are several excellent programs that aren't going to just concede the title to Pikeville every year
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#49
(11-23-2024, 08:56 PM)jetpilot Wrote: A 12-pack and 3 Tylenol PMs and I was over it and asleep before midnight lol. Not in the cards this year. More thoughts later. Main thought is as weak as everyone including me likes to say Class A is, there are several excellent programs that aren't going to just concede the title to Pikeville every year
This might be the most balanced 1A has been in this current alignment.  The final 4 will be interesting to watch.  I think Cville, Sayre, and Raceland are all very capable of winning it all.
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#50
(11-23-2024, 08:52 PM)jetpilot Wrote: That is an excellent post OSH. Right on the money IMO


I literally thought about it all day before posting. This team should have been better. A LOT better. The '21 Corbin team should have been a juggernaut, but wasn't . I KNOW what was going on with Corbin. I have no knowledge of that with Pikeville. However, experience has showed me that whenever a massively talented team is having struggles that it shouldn't be having, there are usually underlying off the field issues that are disrupting the normal, and typical, flow  of success. Jet would know much more than I would . If he says my inclinations are correct, I absolutely believe him.
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#51
(11-23-2024, 08:16 PM)bac2369 Wrote: I’ve read a bunch between this thread and the other thread and I must say  this.. Pikeville is/was a one horse team. They solely depended Anthony and didn’t develop no one else to take the load off. He was used as much as Max Johnson was used a few years ago. Pikeville has been that way for 2 years now. Last year no one could stop it bc of Pikeville line and having 1 play maker on the outside to take pressure off of him. Pikeville finally ran into someone who could stop it/ endure it. Pikeville also didn’t have  THAT guy on the outside to easy the pressure off. The line got better as the season progressed, but they wasn’t bad before. But I also want to say it’s absolutely uncalled for to say no one on that Pikeville team stepped up.. That is a total disrespect to those kids who played last night and all season that give it there all. So if your gonna put blame u put it on the coaching staff because it’s there fault not the kids… 

I also want to say Congratulations to Sayre on getting the biggest win of the programs history. This senior Class I knew was gonna be special after watching them when they was in the district with Pikeville/Hazard. This group is very talented and skilled and they proved it last night with the BETTER team winning.
I would have to agree. I don’t think Sayre has as much talent as Pikeville but they were the better team last night. Wasn’t particularly close.
#52
I'll eat crow, I didn't think they would do it. Thought if Pikeville had several fumbles they might have a shot. Sayre beat Pikeville in every facet, out coached and out played them. Didn't look like an underdog the way they brought the physicality to the Panthers. Smaller guys bringing down Anthony, solo tackles in space. I was very impressed with their defensive performance.
Congratulations Sayre, you earned and deserve all the credit.

(11-23-2024, 04:03 PM)jetpilot Wrote: I'll post my comments later but Pikeville losing sure brought the turds out...

Really? You stir the pot on here quite often, so you made your bed.
#53
(11-24-2024, 05:07 AM)Glory_Days Wrote: I'll eat crow, I didn't think they would do it. Thought if Pikeville had several fumbles they might have a shot. Sayre beat Pikeville in every facet, out coached and out played them. Didn't look like an underdog the way they brought the physicality to the Panthers. Smaller guys bringing down Anthony, solo tackles in space. I was very impressed with their defensive performance.
Congratulations Sayre, you earned and deserve all the credit.

(11-23-2024, 04:03 PM)jetpilot Wrote: I'll post my comments later but Pikeville losing sure brought the turds out...

Really? You stir the pot on here quite often, so you made your bed.
Yes really. I don't have anything to do with Pikeville other than being a fan. There were some low-rent posts made, all from the usual suspects.
#54
(11-23-2024, 12:19 AM)Fanman Wrote: Dear God I can't wait for the Raceland guys to get on here

You mean all those guys with no titles? Had to keep it real one last time because may not have that on them in a couple weeks.
#55
(11-23-2024, 11:07 AM)bac2369 Wrote: Someone check on my buddy jet and see if he is okay.. we may need to get together and have some cold beverages and talk about what could of been…

Cold beverages on me anytime bac. 

Most everything has been said already but probably a combination of things caused the loss other than Sayre just being really good and seemingly wanting it more.
Injuries, turnovers and penalties caught up with Pikeville this year. Avoided them for the most part the last 3 years, then tons of all 3 this year. Probably more in total than last 3 years combined.
Attitude, chemistry, intensity seemed lacking to say the least. Maybe some complacency, who knows. Not going to point fingers because I have no idea whose fault it was. Sometimes coaches allow it to happen, sometimes players don't care or buy in. Again, no idea what happened but something was off.
Did the brutal schedule and losses take a toll? Again, no idea.
Play calling. Even people who aren't Pikeville fans noticed the play calling was off. I know there were injuries but Pikeville never had an identity on offense all year. No game looked like any other game. Almost looked like they had guest play callers every week it looked so different.
Anyway, congratulations to Sayre. Very impressive and the win wasn't given to them they earned it. Congratulations to Pikeville seniors, hell of a run. 3 rings and it was a blast watching you. Don't know where Pikeville goes from here but my money is on them coming back strong. Just need to remember what happened after the last bad loss, to Hazard way back in 2020.
#56
(11-24-2024, 07:04 AM)jetpilot Wrote:
(11-23-2024, 11:07 AM)bac2369 Wrote: Someone check on my buddy jet and see if he is okay.. we may need to get together and have some cold beverages and talk about what could of been…

Cold beverages on me anytime bac. 

Most everything has been said already but probably a combination of things caused the loss other than Sayre just being really good and seemingly wanting it more.
Injuries, turnovers and penalties caught up with Pikeville this year. Avoided them for the most part the last 3 years, then tons of all 3 this year. Probably more in total than last 3 years combined.
Attitude, chemistry, intensity seemed lacking to say the least. Maybe some complacency, who knows. Not going to point fingers because I have no idea whose fault it was. Sometimes coaches allow it to happen, sometimes players don't care or buy in. Again, no idea what happened but something was off.
Did the brutal schedule and losses take a toll? Again, no idea.
Play calling. Even people who aren't Pikeville fans noticed the play calling was off. I know there were injuries but Pikeville never had an identity on offense all year. No game looked like any other game. Almost looked like they had guest play callers every week it looked so different.
Anyway, congratulations to Sayre. Very impressive and the win wasn't given to them they earned it. Congratulations to Pikeville seniors, hell of a run. 3 rings and it was a blast watching you. Don't know where Pikeville goes from here but my money is on them coming back strong. Just need to remember what happened after the last bad loss, to Hazard way back in 2020.

Forgot to mention special teams. Bad all year and never got fixed. Again not pointing fingers but obviously a system failure. I thought if Pikeville got beat in the playoffs a kick return TD would play a part and it happened.
#57
I think it’s weird how two teams seasons went totally opposite of what everybody expected. Pikeville was crowned champ before the season started…..and rightfully so. They had a crap ton back, a tank for a running back, it was all right there for the taking. And then the perfect storm hit to take it all away. Raceland was going to be young and rebuilding. Most had us being under 500 on the season. Youth and inexperience was going to be our undoing this year, but lo and behold this team for the most part stayed healthy and week after week they just kept progressing and getting better every single week. I understand what JP is talking about. We’ve had teams here where expectations were through the roof and for whatever reason those teams peaked to early, decension in the ranks, butt load of injuries, to many individuals. You never know what your going to get with teenage kids. Getting a team to play and act like a championship team is hard to do. Pikeville has been the gold standard for quite a while now people should let it sink in how hard that is to keep up year in and year out.
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#58
I know tougher schedules usually make teams better in the long run, but I believe losing 5 of their first 7 games this year killed the Panthers moral. I may be 100% wrong about that. Injuries didn’t help matters. I watched a handful of their games this year, and the offense never really impressed me any. They relied too heavily on Anthony IMO. I know Pikeville has a ton of athletes, and it seemed like they just didn’t use them.

Anyhow, congrats Sayre and the big W
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#59
Very well said RAD. We have had more letdowns than suprises over the years lol. Pikeville just has to manage to keep things together through this rough season. They haven’t had one in who knows how long. They have huge talent in the jr high. Soph group very talented as well.
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#60
If you would have told me Pennington wouldn't have a TD pass and Sayre would have only 82 rushing yards I would guess that Pikeville won 42-0. SMH. Now all I got Friday is half day of work, leftovers from Thursday, and a 12-pack and 3 Tylenol PMs again while listening to everyone else play. Oh well, at least this Friday will be more enjoyable than last.
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