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02-21-2007, 12:52 AM
> In response to the news blurb about the Marine who put two rounds in a
> wounded insurgent's head in Fallujah, here's a response from a Marine:
>
> It's a safety issue pure and simple. After assaulting through a target, we
> put a security round in everybody's head. Sorry al-Reuters, there's no paddy
> wagon rolling around Fallujah picking up "prisoners" and offering them a hot
> cup a joe, falafel, and a blanket. There's no time to ****
> around on the target. You clear the space, dump the chumps, and move on.
> org.
>
> Are Corpsman expected to treat wounded terrorists? Negative. Hey
> libs, worried about the defense budget? Well, it would be waste, fraud, and
> abuse for a Corpsman to expend one man-minute or a battle dressing on a
> terrorist.Its much cheaper to just spend the $.02 on a 5.56mm FMJ.
>
> By the way, in our view, terrorists who chop off civilian's heads are not
> prisoners, they are carcasses. Chopping off a civilian's head is another
> reason why these idiots are known as "unlawful combatants."
> It seems that most of the world's journalists have forgotten that fact.
>
> Let me be very clear about this issue. I have looked around the web, and many
> people get this concept, but there are some stragglers.
>
> Here is your situation Marine: You just took fire from unlawful combatants
> (no uniform - breaking every Geneva Convention rule there is) shooting from
> a religious building attempting to use the sanctuary status of their
> position as protection.
> But you're in Fallujah now, and the Marine Corps has decided that they're
> not playing that game this time. That was Najaf. So you set the mosque on
> fire and you hose down the terrorists with small arms, launch some AT-4s
> (Rockets), some 40MM grenades into the building and things quiet down.
> So you run over there, and find some tangos (bad guys) wounded and
> pretending to be dead. You are aware that suicide martyrdom is like really
> popular with these idiots, and they think taking some Marines with them
> would be really cool. So you can either risk your life and your fire team's
> lives by having them cover you while you bend down and search a guy that you
> think is pretending to be dead for some reason. Most of the time these are
> the guys with the grenade or vest made of explosives.
> Also, you don't know who or what is in the next room. You're already
> speaking English to the rest of your fire team or squad which lets the
> terrorist know you are there and you are his enemy. You are speaking loud
> because your hearing is poor from shooting people for several days. So you
> know that there are many other rooms to enter, and that if anyone is still
> alive in those rooms, they know that Americans are in the mosque. Meanwhile
> (3seconds later), you still have this terrorist (that was just shooting at
> you from a mosque) playing possum. What do you do? You double tap his head,
> and you go to the next room, that's what!!!
>
> What about the Geneva Convention and all that Law of Land Warfare stuff?
> What about it. Without even addressing the issues at hand, your first
> thought should be, "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
>
> Bear in mind that this tactic of double tapping a fallen terrorist is a
> perpetual mindset that is reinforced by experience on a minute by minute
> basis. Secondly, you are fighting an unlawful combatant in a Sanctuary, which
> is a double No-No on his part. Third, tactically you are in no position to
> take prisoners" because there are more rooms to search and clear, and the
> behaviour of said terrorist indicates that he is up to no good. No good in
> Fallujah is a very large place and the low end of no good and the high end
> of no good are fundamentally the same. Marines end up getting hurt or die.
> So there is no compelling reason for you to do anything but double tap this
> idiot and get on with the mission.
>
> If you are a veteran, then everything I have just written is self evident. If
> you are not a veteran, then at least try to put yourself in the situation.
> Remember, in Fallujah there is no yesterday, there is no
> tomorrow, there is only now . Right NOW. Have you ever lived in NOW for a
> week? If you have never lived in NOW for longer than it takes to finish the
> big roller coaster at Six Flags, then shut your hole about putting Marines
> in jail for "War Crimes".
>
> Froggy OUT.
Raymond M. Hajewski
> wounded insurgent's head in Fallujah, here's a response from a Marine:
>
> It's a safety issue pure and simple. After assaulting through a target, we
> put a security round in everybody's head. Sorry al-Reuters, there's no paddy
> wagon rolling around Fallujah picking up "prisoners" and offering them a hot
> cup a joe, falafel, and a blanket. There's no time to ****
> around on the target. You clear the space, dump the chumps, and move on.
> org.
>
> Are Corpsman expected to treat wounded terrorists? Negative. Hey
> libs, worried about the defense budget? Well, it would be waste, fraud, and
> abuse for a Corpsman to expend one man-minute or a battle dressing on a
> terrorist.Its much cheaper to just spend the $.02 on a 5.56mm FMJ.
>
> By the way, in our view, terrorists who chop off civilian's heads are not
> prisoners, they are carcasses. Chopping off a civilian's head is another
> reason why these idiots are known as "unlawful combatants."
> It seems that most of the world's journalists have forgotten that fact.
>
> Let me be very clear about this issue. I have looked around the web, and many
> people get this concept, but there are some stragglers.
>
> Here is your situation Marine: You just took fire from unlawful combatants
> (no uniform - breaking every Geneva Convention rule there is) shooting from
> a religious building attempting to use the sanctuary status of their
> position as protection.
> But you're in Fallujah now, and the Marine Corps has decided that they're
> not playing that game this time. That was Najaf. So you set the mosque on
> fire and you hose down the terrorists with small arms, launch some AT-4s
> (Rockets), some 40MM grenades into the building and things quiet down.
> So you run over there, and find some tangos (bad guys) wounded and
> pretending to be dead. You are aware that suicide martyrdom is like really
> popular with these idiots, and they think taking some Marines with them
> would be really cool. So you can either risk your life and your fire team's
> lives by having them cover you while you bend down and search a guy that you
> think is pretending to be dead for some reason. Most of the time these are
> the guys with the grenade or vest made of explosives.
> Also, you don't know who or what is in the next room. You're already
> speaking English to the rest of your fire team or squad which lets the
> terrorist know you are there and you are his enemy. You are speaking loud
> because your hearing is poor from shooting people for several days. So you
> know that there are many other rooms to enter, and that if anyone is still
> alive in those rooms, they know that Americans are in the mosque. Meanwhile
> (3seconds later), you still have this terrorist (that was just shooting at
> you from a mosque) playing possum. What do you do? You double tap his head,
> and you go to the next room, that's what!!!
>
> What about the Geneva Convention and all that Law of Land Warfare stuff?
> What about it. Without even addressing the issues at hand, your first
> thought should be, "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
>
> Bear in mind that this tactic of double tapping a fallen terrorist is a
> perpetual mindset that is reinforced by experience on a minute by minute
> basis. Secondly, you are fighting an unlawful combatant in a Sanctuary, which
> is a double No-No on his part. Third, tactically you are in no position to
> take prisoners" because there are more rooms to search and clear, and the
> behaviour of said terrorist indicates that he is up to no good. No good in
> Fallujah is a very large place and the low end of no good and the high end
> of no good are fundamentally the same. Marines end up getting hurt or die.
> So there is no compelling reason for you to do anything but double tap this
> idiot and get on with the mission.
>
> If you are a veteran, then everything I have just written is self evident. If
> you are not a veteran, then at least try to put yourself in the situation.
> Remember, in Fallujah there is no yesterday, there is no
> tomorrow, there is only now . Right NOW. Have you ever lived in NOW for a
> week? If you have never lived in NOW for longer than it takes to finish the
> big roller coaster at Six Flags, then shut your hole about putting Marines
> in jail for "War Crimes".
>
> Froggy OUT.
Raymond M. Hajewski
QB Challenge Champion, Just Pitching Champion, Midi Golf Champion- My Greatest Accomplishments in Life
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02-21-2007, 12:29 PM
What ever it takes to survive! Double tap one for me!
02-21-2007, 07:48 PM
Exactly OffTheHook. My friend Daniel can kill as many terrorists as need be as long as he gets to come home safely. My friend Robert already got his nose and some of his face blown off by a roadside bomb, I would like to keep as many as my loved ones safe and able to come home in one piece as possible.
02-24-2007, 10:23 AM
GREAT thread BFritz..this is exactly what I like to hear from our Armed Forces. If only our top brass would think like this, and get away from the UN and that Geneva Conventions bullsh*t. That "Id rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6" is brilliant.
02-24-2007, 10:38 AM
LOL I find it funny that theres pretty much a code of etiquette for war! LOL It's war kill all the towel heads and let god sort em out! Semper-Fi!
Loving support for Kevin Harper, Joe Wyatt, and Jermiah Damron!
Loving support for Kevin Harper, Joe Wyatt, and Jermiah Damron!
02-25-2007, 02:27 AM
I like to hear news about the soldiers themselves but CNN and other news agency,s think anna nicole is more important,,that is pathetic.
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