[Spartan4Life]

I'm a Highschool Freshmen who lives to play baseball, I was just wondering how hard it was or easy it was to go somewhere in baseball? Get a scholarship to a D1 collage. anyone wanna help?

[Fenix]

What position do you play? The most important thing is to go to camps and get your name out.

[Spartan4Life]

I play shortstop and 2nd base.

[Mr.Kimball]

I play shortstop and 2nd base.

To play D1 at either postion you better be able to throw the ball across the diamond in about the 86 to 88 MPH range, and be able to run about a 6.7 to 6.8 60 for starters. If you cant do that your chances are not real good, regardless of how well you can hit.

Extremely tough to make it as a middle infielder in college.

[eastkyhunter]

I agree with last post, you haft to get your name out there. going to multiple camps a year and playing on a travel team will help out a lot. Ask your coach to invite teams to come watch you play is a good idea as well. Not only does your play on both sides of the ball haft to be good, but your grades need to be good as well.

[Fenix]

Don't limit yourself to just middle infield, learn to play other positions too, and more than anything you have to be able to drive the baseball.

[Godspeed]

Lets just face the facts. Your not going to see anyone from the 14th go to a D1 school for atleast the next 10 years. I think that Jon Couch would have been the closest possibility last year. Drew Freeman from Estill hit very well last year as a soph. Can't wait to see what he will do as a senior in two years. Napier from PCC is pretty good. Doesn't have the greatest arm for a short-stop but has very quick hands and is good with the bat. Could possibly be a 2nd baseman for a D1 or D2 school.

[baseball_dad]

I'm with Godspeed on this one. Still, hard work and keeping those grades around a 3.50 GPA can help. Make sure to take your ACT during your sophomore, junior, and senior years. A score of 18-21 is the goal. And go to camps and showcases. Get your name out there. If you are good they will scout you.

[rallo316]

yeah go to as many camps as you can.

[Mr.Kimball]

yeah go to as many camps as you can.

Camps and showcases are OK in their proper perspective, but IMO the very most important thing that you can do is to make yourself an athlete. Extensive off season conditioning is VITAL. Unless you can run and throw no body will even take the first glance in your direction . Remember you will never be able to throw too hard or run too fast. If you can throw and run, they can teach you to do some of the other things.

[Godspeed]

Camps and showcases are OK in their proper perspective, but IMO the very most important thing that you can do is to make yourself an athlete. Extensive off season conditioning is VITAL. Unless you can run and throw no body will even take the first glance in your direction . Remember you will never be able to throw too hard or run too fast. If you can throw and run, they can teach you to do some of the other things.

I agree. Conditioning is one of the most important things to do to get yourself ready for the upcoming season. But, the only thing that D1 school's look for first is your hitting. They want someone who is going to bring in about 70 or 80 rbi's a season and hit atleast 350 or above.

[Fenix]

Camps and showcases are OK in their proper perspective, but IMO the very most important thing that you can do is to make yourself an athlete. Extensive off season conditioning is VITAL. Unless you can run and throw no body will even take the first glance in your direction . Remember you will never be able to throw too hard or run too fast. If you can throw and run, they can teach you to do some of the other things.

Colleges don't come to Eastern Kentucky to look for baseball players. You must get your name out there, coaches want to see you actually work out and go against similar competition, not just weak Eastern Kentucky competition.

[Mr.Kimball]

I agree. Conditioning is one of the most important things to do to get yourself ready for the upcoming season. But, the only thing that D1 school's look for first is your hitting. They want someone who is going to bring in about 70 or 80 rbi's a season and hit atleast 350 or above.

I am going to respectfully disagree with you on that. Sure they want those kids that can do what you specified, but if they clock you across the diamond at 90 or 90+ and if you run a 6.5 or 6.6 and halfway look like you can swing a bat, they will droll all over themselves. Throw it over the first baseman's head, they dont care , they want to see that reading on the gun. The same applies for a pitcher. If you can throw 90+ MPH and are 6'4" they could care less if you could throw it across a yard stick, let alone an 18" plate. They all want to know what the gun says, especially if you are a right hander. Left hander is certainly not as vital.

College coaches and pro scouts have such ego's that they think they can teach anybody how to do anything. The two things they cannot teach is velocity and speed, so that is what they look for first. I know that there are exceptions to what I am saying, but there are only so many DH's or first basemen that you can put on a roster. What I am referring to are primarily middle infielders or outfielders that must be relied upon to play a postion as well as hit.

I am fully aware that both can be worked on to improve both of those aspects but in my experiences( and I have been there twice) is that they would rather have the two physical qualities that I mentioned first and teach someone how to pitch or hit rather than work with a pitcher that knows how to pitch and improve his velocity, teach him to throw off speed or to develope more speed out of a kid that can hit. Remember these kids have to be someone whom are not liabilities on defense as well, and you just flat out will not be on the field if you cannot run or have the arm with the specifications that I mentioned. Do I nesessarily think that is correct thinking? No, I dont in all cases, but those are the cold hard facts at the D1 level when it comes to recruiting. Again I have been in this situation twice concerning prospects at the D1 level.

Be Revere may be the most perfect example of what I am talking about. Acording to all of the scouting reports on him, his hitting abilty was lacking in just about every aspect that they look for when it came to playing at the professional level, but they took a chance on a kid that was deemed the fastest high school player in America and made him a first round draft pick. A kid that can run a 6.28 60 is somebody that just dont come along very often. Revere's legs are what got him a ticket to the biggs, not his bat.

[Mr.Kimball]

Colleges don't come to Eastern Kentucky to look for baseball players. You must get your name out there, coaches want to see you actually work out and go against similar competition, not just weak Eastern Kentucky competition.

You are very correct on that part. You flat out have to wear the circuits out to be noticed if you are from eastern Kentucky. Reality is however, that if you can't do what I said you need to do , you will never be anything more than just one of the mutitudes that show up to these showcases. You will be nothing more than just a contributor to the athletic budget or coaches salary. They will however, thank you for your kind and generous donation to the kitty.

[Fenix]

You are very correct on that part. You flat out have to wear the circuits out to be noticed if you are from eastern Kentucky. Reality is however, that if you can't do what I said you need to do , you will never be anything more than just one of the mutitudes that show up to these showcases. You will be nothing more than just a contributor to the athletic budget or coaches salary. They will however, thank you for your kind and generous donation to the kitty.

I agree with this completely. Don't just show up, you have to bring something to the table.

[Godspeed]

I am going to respectfully disagree with you on that. Sure they want those kids that can do what you specified, but if they clock you across the diamond at 90 or 90+ and if you run a 6.5 or 6.6 and halfway look like you can swing a bat, they will droll all over themselves. Throw it over the first baseman's head, they dont care , they want to see that reading on the gun. The same applies for a pitcher. If you can throw 90+ MPH and are 6'4" they could care less if you could throw it across a yard stick, let alone an 18" plate. They all want to know what the gun says, especially if you are a right hander. Left hander is certainly not as vital.

College coaches and pro scouts have such ego's that they think they can teach anybody how to do anything. The two things they cannot teach is velocity and speed, so that is what they look for first. I know that there are exceptions to what I am saying, but there are only so many DH's or first basemen that you can put on a roster. What I am referring to are primarily middle infielders or outfielders that must be relied upon to play a postion as well as hit.

I am fully aware that both can be worked on to improve both of those aspects but in my experiences( and I have been there twice) is that they would rather have the two physical qualities that I mentioned first and teach someone how to pitch or hit rather than work with a pitcher that knows how to pitch and improve his velocity, teach him to throw off speed or to develope more speed out of a kid that can hit. Remember these kids have to be someone whom are not liabilities on defense as well, and you just flat out will not be on the field if you cannot run or have the arm with the specifications that I mentioned. Do I nesessarily think that is correct thinking? No, I dont in all cases, but those are the cold hard facts at the D1 level when it comes to recruiting. Again I have been in this situation twice concerning prospects at the D1 level.

Be Revere may be the most perfect example of what I am talking about. Acording to all of the scouting reports on him, his hitting abilty was lacking in just about every aspect that they look for when it came to playing at the professional level, but they took a chance on a kid that was deemed the fastest high school player in America and made him a first round draft pick. A kid that can run a 6.28 60 is somebody that just dont come along very often. Revere's legs are what got him a ticket to the biggs, not his bat.

If I may put my opinion and facts in on this, Ben Revere struck out only 19 times out of over 400 at bats. Set school and state records for his batting average, and also hit for power. Im sure it has shown considering in the 2006 post season hit a home run recorded over 400 feet. So I'm sure that his speed wasnt the only thing, though it did play a huge part. If you go to Champions in Lexington, Ky there is a list from a top prospect camp and has Revere's name circled with every stat from his 60 yd dash to vertical jump to his arm speed to his power with the bat. They might even have it on the website.
www.championslexington.com

[Godspeed]

Colleges don't come to Eastern Kentucky to look for baseball players. You must get your name out there, coaches want to see you actually work out and go against similar competition, not just weak Eastern Kentucky competition.

I have to agree with this. You must get your name out their with the rest of the competition. Going to showcase's is a huge part of getting exposure. Several college's will send you letters and such asking what your schedule is and things like that. But they will also ask where you are standing academically, like your GPA and ACT scores...this will also play a huge part of whether you get into college or not.

[Mr.Kimball]

If I may put my opinion and facts in on this, Ben Revere struck out only 19 times out of over 400 at bats. Set school and state records for his batting average, and also hit for power. Im sure it has shown considering in the 2006 post season hit a home run recorded over 400 feet. So I'm sure that his speed wasnt the only thing, though it did play a huge part. If you go to Champions in Lexington, Ky there is a list from a top prospect camp and has Revere's name circled with every stat from his 60 yd dash to vertical jump to his arm speed to his power with the bat. They might even have it on the website.
www.championslexington.com

I've been to Champions and I know what you are referring to, but go to the Major League draft analysis webites and they state in just about every category that they grade, that Revere was deficient to some degree in almost every category. There was a lot of people that criticized the Twins for not waiting till some of the later rounds to pick Revere up. Didn't and I am not saying that he was not a good hitter, because he did well in his stint in the minors this summer as far as average goes. He also had several triples , which is a direct indicator of speed. But how many infield singles would you guess that Revere gets? That's what speed will do for your average.

[Godspeed]

I've been to Champions and I know what you are referring to, but go to the Major League draft analysis webites and they state in just about every category that they grade, that Revere was deficient to some degree in almost every category. There was a lot of people that criticized the Twins for not waiting till some of the later rounds to pick Revere up. Didn't and I am not saying that he was not a good hitter, because he did well in his stint in the minors this summer as far as average goes. He also had several triples , which is a direct indicator of speed. But how many infield singles would you guess that Revere gets? That's what speed will do for your average.

Its agreeable that we do know what speed will do to your average.
But I would also agree with you on the fact that the Twins didnt pick up someone that was a better all around player. I remember watching the draft and I was very happy for him. I'm sure Coach Martin was very pleased when he saw that. Its good to agree with someone on here and have a decent "debate" without anyone being offended.

[Mr.Kimball]

Its agreeable that we do know what speed will do to your average.
But I would also agree with you on the fact that the Twins didnt pick up someone that was a better all around player. I remember watching the draft and I was very happy for him. I'm sure Coach Martin was very pleased when he saw that. Its good to agree with someone on here and have a decent "debate" without anyone being offended.

Hey, it's just good just to be able to debate with someone on here that has the first clue about what they are talking about to begin with. Your definately one of the better posters on here.:thumpsup:

[Godspeed]

Hey, it's just good just to be able to debate with someone on here that has the first clue about what they are talking about to begin with. Your definately one of the better posters on here.:thumpsup:

Same to you Mr. Kimball. Thanks a bunch:rockon:

[Football Widow]

I'm a Highschool Freshmen who lives to play baseball, I was just wondering how hard it was or easy it was to go somewhere in baseball? Get a scholarship to a D1 collage. anyone wanna help?

Being able to spell college may be helpful-just a tip.

[Spartan4Life]

Being able to spell college may be helpful-just a tip.

haha thanks, I'll take that into consideration. I've always got the E and A messed up in College. Thanks. lol