[MR.PERFECT]

ALL THE DIFFERENCE! IMO
It has been argued on here that the weight room has no bearing and TEAMS ARE NOT MADE IN THE WEIGHT ROOM. I strongly disagree with that NIECE.
Stronger, Faster, Self confidence all are attributed to a good weight program. In your opinions, Just how important is " the weight room" to high school football players? Appreciate your input and opinions

[cougarpride08]

being in the weight room makes more difference than what people think. When teams are stronger and quicker than you are, then this is the only way to improve. Also we need to point out that conditioning is also added to weight lifting. It makes you stronger, quicker, and a much better ball player. At Letcher Central weight lifting is #1 prioity with the players. They mix in conditioning and also wrestling has helped a few lineman over the past two years.

[EKUAlum05]

The impact of a weight room is variable dependent on the program itself. A weight room doesn't mean anything if a program doesn't have numbers, doesn't have good fundamentals, doesn't have a solid coaching staff.

When those factors are in place, a good weight program is equally as important as a strong feeder system.

[cougarpride08]

but the feeder system will not work if they are not in shape. This is mostly for lineman, but it does help other players as well.

[EKUAlum05]

but the feeder system will not work if they are not in shape. This is mostly for lineman, but it does help other players as well.

Feeder system?

A feeder system is all the middle schools, elementary schools, Junior Football Leagues, etc.... the purpose of a feeder system has nothing to do with a weight program, its all about fundamentals and implementing parts of a coach's system and philosophy at a young age.

[NIECE]

ALL THE DIFFERENCE! IMO
It has been argued on here that the weight room has no bearing and TEAMS ARE NOT MADE IN THE WEIGHT ROOM. I strongly disagree with that NIECE.
Stronger, Faster, Self confidence all are attributed to a good weight program. In your opinions, Just how important is " the weight room" to high school football players? Appreciate your input and opinions

You have the right to disagree. Of the 4 1st team ALL-STATE players Estill has had they have been three sport players. Only one of them could bench over 300 lbs, squat over 500, and dead lift around 650. So you tell me how much impact it has on how good a player can be. Again, in 04 Estill won the state lifting championship, record, 3-7, what must have went wrong returning all but 6 players.

[NIECE]

The impact of a weight room is variable dependent on the program itself. A weight room doesn't mean anything if a program doesn't have numbers, doesn't have good fundamentals, doesn't have a solid coaching staff.

When those factors are in place, a good weight program is equally as important as a strong feeder system.

Finally, someone who understands the importance of FUNDAMENTALS, PRACTICE, and COACHING! Thank You!

[rock-chalk-jayhawk]

niece is right, ive seen some mules in the weightroom and still not know how to get into a proper stance, and then someone that cant bench their body weight run over half the team, the weights have a lot to do with it but heart, experience, and drive have a lot more involved

[DEVILOLOGIST]

Russell Red Devils-- live in the weight room
Great Middle School program
Great JFL program-- our motto is- "Tradition starts here!"
it all goes together.

[IntheZone]

weight room in high school is the key to sucsess. eqspicaly up front why do you think belfry always manhandles people because there so much stonger than everyone elese im not talking about just one player either im talking about the whole unit

[EKUAlum05]

weight room in high school is the key to sucsess. eqspicaly up front why do you think belfry always manhandles people because there so much stonger than everyone elese im not talking about just one player either im talking about the whole unit

True and untrue.... the wieght program is certainly top notch at Belfry, but Belfry's line manhandles people because of their technique and discipline. You rarely see a Belfry lineman miss an assignment .

Just look at the current Belfry line and how good they are. Only Ryan Blackburn (6'3 300) would be considered your prototypical linemen. Chancey Cisco and Randy Webb are both undersized, Casey Whetstone has the height but only goes about 220 or 230. These guys dominate with their footwork, agility, and ability to understand exactly which hole needs to be open and what position they have to be in to open it.

[throw deep]

True and untrue.... the wieght program is certainly top notch at Belfry, but Belfry's line manhandles people because of their technique and discipline. You rarely see a Belfry lineman miss an assignment .

Just look at the current Belfry line and how good they are. Only Ryan Blackburn (6'3 300) would be considered your prototypical linemen. Chancey Cisco and Randy Webb are both undersized, Casey Whetstone has the height but only goes about 220 or 230. These guys dominate with their footwork, agility, and ability to understand exactly which hole needs to be open and what position they have to be in to open it.

Whetstone weighed in at around 240 lbs. the other day, Corey Coleman will add some versatility and strength at TE.

[NIECE]

True and untrue.... the wieght program is certainly top notch at Belfry, but Belfry's line manhandles people because of their technique and discipline. You rarely see a Belfry lineman miss an assignment .

Just look at the current Belfry line and how good they are. Only Ryan Blackburn (6'3 300) would be considered your prototypical linemen. Chancey Cisco and Randy Webb are both undersized, Casey Whetstone has the height but only goes about 220 or 230. These guys dominate with their footwork, agility, and ability to understand exactly which hole needs to be open and what position they have to be in to open it.

Very well said. Coach Haywood is a great coach and fun to compete against. He is a class act and he is OLD SCHOOL. I guarantee he drills and drills and drills to get the kids to that discipline, they tackle and block also. You don't have to be strong to do the fundamentals, you have to practice. The new wave coaching is the bunch that is caught up in lifting weights.

[NIECE]

niece is right, ive seen some mules in the weightroom and still not know how to get into a proper stance, and then someone that cant bench their body weight run over half the team, the weights have a lot to do with it but heart, experience, and drive have a lot more involved

Well said! Only one person seems to strongly disagree w/ me which is fine. Everyone is entitled to their OPINION. Sounds like you have seen what I have been talking about! Nice quote!

[NIECE]

Russell Red Devils-- live in the weight room
Great Middle School program
Great JFL program-- our motto is- "Tradition starts here!"
it all goes together.

I bet they practice their *** off as well. McGlone didn't get where he's at by being soft.

[BlackcatAlum]

Prestonsburg's line is always smaller then there opponents but they always seem to manhandle them because there much faster and stronger than there opponents line.

School's that have weight programs are always usually your elite teams...

Example: Belfry, Prestonsburg, Johnson Central, Sheldon Clark, Russell, Pikeville, Letcher Central, Somerset, Hazard, Bell County, Rockcastle County, Ashland, Middlesboro, etc.

Those school's rarely have losing seasons, but one thing they all have in common is they all weight lifting programs.

[cougarpride08]

we all agree that weight room helps. It isn't the only thing. If you taught technique 365 days, and no one lifts, then technique is all you have. You still are going to have 300+lb lineman coming at you, and I can almost bet they have been in the weight room. If you are not in there, then missmatch city.

[FBALL]

I bet they practice their *** off as well. McGlone didn't get where he's at by being soft.

You would lose that bet. Russell's practices are not that tough. It is more about preparation for an opponent. Conditioning is done in the off season. Not that Coach McGlone is soft but he does not like to wear out his team by having them beat up on themselves in practice.

[THE_1_AND_ONLY]

ALL THE DIFFERENCE! IMO
It has been argued on here that the weight room has no bearing and TEAMS ARE NOT MADE IN THE WEIGHT ROOM. I strongly disagree with that NIECE.
Stronger, Faster, Self confidence all are attributed to a good weight program. In your opinions, Just how important is " the weight room" to high school football players? Appreciate your input and opinions

Teams are made in the weight room there is doubt about it. without being strong u wouldnt be able to do alot of thing on the football field. ex.running over top of people making a good tackle getting off a block but the list goes on. but yea a team is made in a weight room.

[THE_1_AND_ONLY]

in the weight room there is succuss if your not strong you are nothing on the field you cant get off block run over some one or make a big play the wiehgt is what make a team.

[THE_1_AND_ONLY]

it makes all the difference if your in the weight room that is where a team is born if your not strong your nothing on thr football field

[PC_You_Know]

True and untrue.... the wieght program is certainly top notch at Belfry, but Belfry's line manhandles people because of their technique and discipline. You rarely see a Belfry lineman miss an assignment .

Just look at the current Belfry line and how good they are. Only Ryan Blackburn (6'3 300) would be considered your prototypical linemen. Chancey Cisco and Randy Webb are both undersized, Casey Whetstone has the height but only goes about 220 or 230. These guys dominate with their footwork, agility, and ability to understand exactly which hole needs to be open and what position they have to be in to open it.

Not trying to put you down, but I played against Belfry after blowing out my knee 4 months prior, was only a sophomore, and had only been in the weight room for about a year, and was far from manhandled by Belfry's line.

[Southpaw62]

I agree weight room training makes alot of difference when it comes to strength, but alot of other things factor in as well . But it is a plus !

[MR.PERFECT]

Prestonsburg's line is always smaller then there opponents but they always seem to manhandle them because there much faster and stronger than there opponents line.

School's that have weight programs are always usually your elite teams...

Example: Belfry, Prestonsburg, Johnson Central, Sheldon Clark, Russell, Pikeville, Letcher Central, Somerset, Hazard, Bell County, Rockcastle County, Ashland, Middlesboro, etc.

Those school's rarely have losing seasons, but one thing they all have in common is they all weight lifting programs.

Very well put, I agree your Elite teams have great weight programs.

[MR.PERFECT]

being in the weight room makes more difference than what people think. When teams are stronger and quicker than you are, then this is the only way to improve. Also we need to point out that conditioning is also added to weight lifting. It makes you stronger, quicker, and a much better ball player. At Letcher Central weight lifting is #1 prioity with the players. They mix in conditioning and also wrestling has helped a few lineman over the past two years.

Would you say a solid weight program has been a big part of LCC's improvement and success they had last season?

[Patriot]

Not trying to put you down, but I played against Belfry after blowing out my knee 4 months prior, was only a sophomore, and had only been in the weight room for about a year, and was far from manhandled by Belfry's line.

The strongest guy on the field doesn't really matter I don't think. If you don't know how to block or how to tackle strenght means very little. I can remember a time when coaches didn't want kids to get overly big because once you get so big it makes you a little slower or At least not able to move as well. Speed is the only thing you can't teach and I believe you are either fast or not, no amount of condition will make you faster. You may be able to run harder but not faster. Clear as mud I guess.

[Patriot]

Per my last response on this issue, I am by no means against lifting, I believe they do need strength and conditioning as much as they need anything. No pun intended but every thing has to work together like a well oiled machine. No matter how good the technique you wouldn't want a wideout blocking on the line.

[EKUAlum05]

Would you say a solid weight program has been a big part of LCC's improvement and success they had last season?

Are you saying Hilliard and Ben Howard wasn't?

[NIKE2010]

IMO the weight room can help alot with strength and speed but it also can cause injuries that can hurt the team more in the long run.

[RedSeal]

I think weight training can help indivduals alot more than they could help a team, and you dont have to be strong to be a great athlete, for example Jason Spradlin at Lawrence County, Jason could only bench 125 lbs, and could barely squat 175, and Jason was an outstanding athlete! He just had some of the field issues, but for a team to be good they must have the team chemistry that ever winning team has!