Johnson Central vs Paintsville

oneijoe · 09-28-2008, 12:54 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:I hope that one of these days you'll be able to finally get it out of your system to not keep reminding everyone of that. .......... j/k

I'm getting there... Wink

mullinstiger55 · 09-28-2008, 01:09 AM

Since this is the Apple Bowl does this mean apple days?!

IRISH4 · 09-28-2008, 01:16 AM

I hope this thread can continue without the crap that's went on for the past few years on these message boards. This game is played between the white lines, not by the school and its respective administrations/coaches or any rumors of made up recruiting ability....it's about the kids and I truly feel that the majority of the rivalry is given a bad name for the sole fact that the people on the outside looking in does that.

Anyway, back to the game. Johnson Central names the score, might be competetive for a quater or so then it's blown open.

JCpride · 09-28-2008, 02:28 AM

AmazingFan Wrote:Several years back it did not matter whether JC was 5A or Pville was 1A the competition was there. Now that JC is more dominate it's all about what class each team is in. When Pville was winning the games no one cared was class they were in. Now, It's all about the ability to win.

Well Amazingfan...the fact of the matter is JC cant win...if they do then everyone expects it and if they lose then it just shows how bad they are. I feel the same way you do. Its a cross town rivalry and JC has the jump they have the better team and the better coach. Its simple.

JC- whatever coach Matney wants
Paintsville- whatever coach Matney wants

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 09-28-2008, 03:34 AM

oneijoe Wrote:I'm getting there...

:letsparty

Smile

lawrence LC · 09-28-2008, 03:48 AM

JC all the way.

Eagle_Fan442 · 09-28-2008, 07:56 AM

JC....

tigerfan13 · 09-28-2008, 09:19 AM

JCpride Wrote:Well Amazingfan...the fact of the matter is JC cant win...if they do then everyone expects it and if they lose then it just shows how bad they are. I feel the same way you do. Its a cross town rivalry and JC has the jump they have the better team and the better coach. Its simple.

JC- whatever coach Matney wants
Paintsville- whatever coach Matney wants

To say they have the better coach is going a bit too far. Kinner is a great coach for Paintsville and I think he will surprise some people at this game. Everyone's complaining when people say JC should be better because of the size of the school and saying it's a bunch of crap because there are only 11 boys on the field but I think they are forgetting about depth. The tigers have the talent but at a 1A school you won't have the depth because your numbers aren't going to be as high as they would be at a 5A school. Should JC when? I think everyone knows that answer. Can Paintsville win? YES!! Don't overlook the tigers this year. Not only is football a game about talent but its a game that is played with a lot of HEART and Paintsville has that this year more than past years. I think it will be a good game to watch but I know for most Tiger fans, we care more about the Pikeville game this year than the apple bowl because it actually means something to our season.

EKY Sportster · 09-28-2008, 11:49 AM

gettheball Wrote:Well of course we all expect JC to win but in my opinion if a 5A school can't beat a 1A school they should be embarrassed. Its kinda like if you win big deal you beat a 1 A school and if you lose then you got beat by a 1A school and just to be honest if you go by the size of the schools and the amount of kids JC has to pick from Paintsville should never beat them in any sport.

Good luck to both teams and be safe!!

Well it does happen! Raceland (1A) upset Ashland (5A) in the season opener this year. However, Raceland has one of the best teams they have had in quiet a while and caught Ashland sleeping at the wheel. However, I doubt that Raceland could repeat the upset at this point.

But as to this game, JC should win it, despite Paintsville having a great season so far. But it is the Apple Bowl so you never know! Anything can happen. Hopefully neither team will suffer any injuries which would hurt the remainder of their seasons! Best of luck to both!

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 09-28-2008, 11:57 AM

EKY Sportster Wrote:Well it does happen! Raceland (1A) upset Ashland (5A) in the season opener this year. However, Raceland has one of the best teams they have had in quiet a while and caught Ashland sleeping at the wheel. However, I doubt that Raceland could repeat the upset at this point.

But as to this game, JC should win it, despite Paintsville having a great season so far. But it is the Apple Bowl so you never know! Anything can happen. Hopefully neither team will suffer any injuries which would hurt the remainder of their seasons! Best of luck to both!

You must not keep up with the Ashland/Raceland series. Raceland has beaten Ashland for 3 straight years now. Just one of those rivalries when the best team may not always win. I think at this point that for whatever reason, Raceland must hold some sort of a psycological advantage over Ashland. It happens!

I do agree with you in hopes that no one is injured that will deter each respective team from reaching their ultimate post season goals in the real season.

EastKyMiner · 09-28-2008, 12:01 PM

[quote=JCpride]Well Amazingfan...the fact of the matter is JC cant win...if they do then everyone expects it and if they lose then it just shows how bad they are. I feel the same way you do. Its a cross town rivalry and JC has the jump they have the better team and the better coach. Its simple.

JC- whatever coach Matney wants
Paintsville- whatever coach Matney wants[/QUOTE]

This is so true which makes it so funny. Smile

EKY Sportster · 09-28-2008, 12:11 PM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:You must not keep up with the Ashland/Raceland series. Raceland has beaten Ashland for 3 straight years now. Just one of those rivalries when the best team may not always win. I think at this point that for whatever reason, Raceland must hold some sort of a psycological advantage over Ashland. It happens!

I do agree with you in hopes that no one is injured that will deter each respective team from reaching their ultimate post season goals in the real season.

Oh, I do keep up with the series and have even posted about this very fact previously. In fact, if you go back 25 years and look at all of the records, Raceland has held their own in this series. But just look at the Apple Bowl series as well. Both JC and Paintsville have their fair share of wins. Paintsville has beaten JC several years in a row and holds the series record. JC has now beaten Paintsville several years in a row and can close in on evening up the record with another win this year. But Paintsville's early success against JC in the 70's and 80's I think gave them some sort of psychological edge against JC back then. But since the Music and now Matney era's at JC, that edge has evaporated. I think JC goes in with a confident attitude and it is the Tigers that while not timid, know they are in for a battle. But anything can happen and that's why we play the games.

EKY Sportster · 09-28-2008, 12:23 PM

EastKyMiner Wrote:[quote=JCpride]Well Amazingfan...the fact of the matter is JC cant win...if they do then everyone expects it and if they lose then it just shows how bad they are. I feel the same way you do. Its a cross town rivalry and JC has the jump they have the better team and the better coach. Its simple.

JC- whatever coach Matney wants
Paintsville- whatever coach Matney wants[/QUOTE]

This is so true which makes it so funny.

I'll say this, Coach Kinner has gotten his career off to a pretty good start all things considered.

And you are right in the fact that Matney is a good coach. But considering that JC has pumped in enough money to match a small college's budget on facilities and coaching and considering the size of the school, Matney should be in the finals every year. With Matney's high pay, he should be turning in awesome results every year. So far he has been able to do it! The true test is whether he can keep it up in the years ahead. I wish him the best. Because JC really doesn't compete with Paintsville, they are in different classes. But Matney's success brings recognition to Johnson County and Eastern Kentucky and that is what I like to see from a state level. And if Paintsville exists in the same county and has success as well, that makes it all the better. Hopefully Kinner can continue the great Paintsville tradition in Class A. Good luck to both teams!!

schs_06 · 09-28-2008, 01:45 PM

jc 41 pville 14

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 09-28-2008, 02:18 PM

EKY Sportster Wrote:[quote=EastKyMiner]

I'll say this, Coach Kinner has gotten his career off to a pretty good start all things considered.

And you are right in the fact that Matney is a good coach. But considering that JC has pumped in enough money to match a small college's budget on facilities and coaching and considering the size of the school, Matney should be in the finals every year. With Matney's high pay, he should be turning in awesome results every year. So far he has been able to do it! The true test is whether he can keep it up in the years ahead. I wish him the best. Because JC really doesn't compete with Paintsville, they are in different classes. But Matney's success brings recognition to Johnson County and Eastern Kentucky and that is what I like to see from a state level. And if Paintsville exists in the same county and has success as well, that makes it all the better. Hopefully Kinner can continue the great Paintsville tradition in Class A. Good luck to both teams!!

It's been made mention of many times about coaches salaries. While some may consider what a coach makes to be extravagant one needs to consider the revenue that the football program now brings to the coffers. For the most part I think it is safe to say that there may be an average of maybe 3000 fans at an average game, the marquee games as many as 5-6,000. I can remember when you might have 300 show up for a game. Take into account with not only what just the gate now brings in, but tack on consessions and other various fund raising tokens, I feel safe in saying that the coaches salary is way more than taken care of as well as a major portion of the entire athletic budget subsidized for the year by football revenue. In business we just call it marketing your product. Sometimes to make money, you have to spend money.

brown_ind1977 · 09-28-2008, 03:57 PM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:[quote=EKY Sportster]
It's been made mention of many times about coaches salaries. While some may consider what a coach makes to be extravagant one needs to consider the revenue that the football program now brings to the coffers. For the most part I think it is safe to say that there may be an average of maybe 3000 fans at an average game, the marquee games as many as 5-6,000. I can remember when you might have 300 show up for a game. Take into account with not only what just the gate now brings in, but tack on consessions and other various fund raising tokens, I feel safe in saying that the coaches salary is way more than taken care of as well as a major portion of the entire athletic budget subsidized for the year by football revenue. In business we just call it marketing your product. Sometimes to make money, you have to spend money.

I could not have said it better my self, well put Mr. Kimball.

8 cylinders now firing on 100% cubic effort, with a matney stoker motor powered by 1000's screaming of fans lol.

Mr. Sandwich · 09-28-2008, 05:21 PM

I find it hilarious that 8 people have chose Paintsville in the poll.

M12 · 09-28-2008, 09:01 PM

If PHS can make JCHS keep the ball 4 a while, then the Tigers have a chance. Paintsville's DL and LB spots have 2 step up. Berry Ward and Cody Reynolds need 2 have a big nite. Painsville has 2 stop 2 plays.....46 Belly and 25 Belly. I'll take PHS in a close 1.

PHS 21, JCHS 14

Mr. Sandwich · 09-28-2008, 09:04 PM

M12 Wrote:If PHS can make JCHS keep the ball 4 a while, then the Tigers have a chance. Paintsville's DL and LB spots have 2 step up. Berry Ward and Cody Reynolds need 2 have a big nite. Painsville has 2 stop 2 plays.....46 Belly and 25 Belly. I'll take PHS in a close 1.

PHS 21, JCHS 14

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...... I thought you were being serious there for a second.

~~Kayaker~~ · 09-28-2008, 09:19 PM

M12 Wrote:If PHS can make JCHS keep the ball 4 a while, then the Tigers have a chance. Paintsville's DL and LB spots have 2 step up. Berry Ward and Cody Reynolds need 2 have a big nite. Painsville has 2 stop 2 plays.....46 Belly and 25 Belly. I'll take PHS in a close 1.

PHS 21, JCHS 14

You are entitled to your opinion. But please explain the Stop 2 plays...46 and 25 Belly. And how do you expect Paintsville to hold a JC team that nearly ran for a state record in rushing last week to 14 points.

Gridiron · 09-28-2008, 09:27 PM

Johnson Central-34
Paintsville-12

Pupaw · 09-28-2008, 09:30 PM

I'll be pulling for the Tigers in this one, but I just don't see how they can slow down JC's rushing attack.
Best of luck to both teams on a clean, and injury free game.

THOMCAT · 09-28-2008, 09:53 PM

M12 Wrote:If PHS can make JCHS keep the ball 4 a while, then the Tigers have a chance. Paintsville's DL and LB spots have 2 step up. Berry Ward and Cody Reynolds need 2 have a big nite. Painsville has 2 stop 2 plays.....46 Belly and 25 Belly. I'll take PHS in a close 1.

PHS 21, JCHS 14

JC will have two TD's by the end of the 1st Quarter.

THUGLIFE#1 · 09-28-2008, 10:05 PM

M12 Wrote:If PHS can make JCHS keep the ball 4 a while, then the Tigers have a chance. Paintsville's DL and LB spots have 2 step up. Berry Ward and Cody Reynolds need 2 have a big nite. Painsville has 2 stop 2 plays.....46 Belly and 25 Belly. I'll take PHS in a close 1.

PHS 21, JCHS 14

Tust me M12 Matney has a whole lot more plays in his playbook than a 25, and 46 belly... Keep the ball for a whille.. Thats exactly what matney wants to do is run the clock.

**Ring'Em Up** · 09-28-2008, 10:13 PM

THOMCAT Wrote:JC will have two TD's by the end of the 1st Quarter.

TWO? Why you sand-bagging?
As for stopping the 46 and 25, I really dont think it's that far-fetched that we could tell them the play at the line, and them stop it on a consistent basis. This group of linemen are way too dominating. That is......... only my opinion.
JC 62 PHS 20

THOMCAT · 09-28-2008, 11:06 PM

Ring'Em Up Wrote:TWO? Why you sand-bagging?
As for stopping the 46 and 25, I really dont think it's that far-fetched that we could tell them the play at the line, and them stop it on a consistent basis. This group of linemen are way too dominating. That is......... only my opinion.
JC 62 PHS 20

Quit trying to read my mind. I said that they would have 2 TD's by the end of the 1st Quarter because another poster said they would score only 14 points.

Mr. Sandwich · 09-28-2008, 11:15 PM

I see a big ole goose egg on the score board for the Tigers.

brown_ind1977 · 09-29-2008, 01:50 AM

M12 Wrote:If PHS can make JCHS keep the ball 4 a while, then the Tigers have a chance. Paintsville's DL and LB spots have 2 step up. Berry Ward and Cody Reynolds need 2 have a big nite. Painsville has 2 stop 2 plays.....46 Belly and 25 Belly. I'll take PHS in a close 1.

PHS 21, JCHS 14

ROTFLMAO are you kidding me. The only thing close in this game for paintsville is where they live. Would you like to meet some where and wager a little, I'll give you 21 points or more . LoL are you kidding me:kneel:

JCpride · 09-29-2008, 01:51 AM

EKY Sportster Wrote:[quote=EastKyMiner]

I'll say this, Coach Kinner has gotten his career off to a pretty good start all things considered.

And you are right in the fact that Matney is a good coach. But considering that JC has pumped in enough money to match a small college's budget on facilities and coaching and considering the size of the school, Matney should be in the finals every year. With Matney's high pay, he should be turning in awesome results every year. So far he has been able to do it! The true test is whether he can keep it up in the years ahead. I wish him the best. Because JC really doesn't compete with Paintsville, they are in different classes. But Matney's success brings recognition to Johnson County and Eastern Kentucky and that is what I like to see from a state level. And if Paintsville exists in the same county and has success as well, that makes it all the better. Hopefully Kinner can continue the great Paintsville tradition in Class A. Good luck to both teams!!

I'm not completly sure if you're trying to say that JC has an unfair advantage because they have more money of what. But the fact is Paintsville is more worried about Pikeville and JC is more worried about Ashland/Montgomery Co. Im glad Kinner is winning games. He's not winnin this one. Both teams are better off if they can make it through without an injury.

JCpride · 09-29-2008, 01:55 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:You must not keep up with the Ashland/Raceland series. Raceland has beaten Ashland for 3 straight years now. Just one of those rivalries when the best team may not always win. I think at this point that for whatever reason, Raceland must hold some sort of a psycological advantage over Ashland. It happens!

I do agree with you in hopes that no one is injured that will deter each respective team from reaching their ultimate post season goals in the real season.

Similar to Belfry and Lawrence Co. only belfry wins. LC just matches the pirates well