God's Existence

**Stardust** · 02-18-2009, 10:43 PM

thecavemaster Wrote:Laugh and the world laughs with you; snore and you sleep alone.

Can we return to the existence of "god" topic before the thread gets closed?

See, you can speak in common-folk language:biggrin:

Yes, the topic of God would be very much appropriate. :Thumbs:

**outdoorsman43** · 02-18-2009, 10:49 PM

thecavemaster Wrote:Laugh and the world laughs with you; snore and you sleep alone.

Can we return to the existence of "god" topic before the thread gets closed?

Not to be sarcastic, but it's actually spelled "God". :Thumbs:

**thecavemaster** · 02-19-2009, 09:37 AM

outdoorsman43 Wrote:Not to be sarcastic, but it's actually spelled "God". :Thumbs:

The name of the Judaeo-Christian supreme being is not "god," big "g" or capital "G" doesn't matter.

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 02-19-2009, 09:56 AM

thecavemaster Wrote:The name of the Judaeo-Christian supreme being is not "god," big "g" or capital "G" doesn't matter.

Hmmm.......wonder why it's always capitalized in the Bible?

**thecavemaster** · 02-19-2009, 05:42 PM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:Hmmm.......wonder why it's always capitalized in the Bible?

god God Vishnu vishnu Buddha buddha Jesus jesus Allah allah

Is there really a requirement on capitalization?

**outdoorsman43** · 02-19-2009, 06:42 PM

thecavemaster Wrote:god God Vishnu vishnu Buddha buddha Jesus jesus Allah allah

Is there really a requirement on capitalization?

Peoples names are capitalized.

Don't you think you should atleast show the respect of capitalizing God when you refer to Him.

**thecavemaster** · 02-19-2009, 06:57 PM

outdoorsman43 Wrote:Peoples names are capitalized.

Don't you think you should atleast show the respect of capitalizing God when you refer to Him.

If there is a Supreme Being, I don't think human rules of capitalization concern him or her.

Kentucky_Liberal · 02-19-2009, 08:14 PM

thecavemaster Wrote:If there is a Supreme Being, I don't think human rules of capitalization concern him or her.

I too highly doubt that would concern him/her

**Stardust** · 02-19-2009, 08:16 PM

^ the continued lack of RESPECT due to too much tolerence :HitWall:

:biggrin:

**PHS#1** · 02-19-2009, 09:08 PM

Kentucky_Liberal Wrote:Are You Atheist or Agnostic?

......

Kentucky_Liberal · 02-20-2009, 04:49 AM

Stardust Wrote:^ the continued lack of RESPECT due to too much tolerence :HitWall:

:biggrin:

what are you trying to say? Big Grin

i mean seriously i'm confused :confused:

**thecavemaster** · 02-20-2009, 09:30 AM

Stardust Wrote:^ the continued lack of RESPECT due to too much tolerence :HitWall:

:biggrin:

Fairly typical religious response: major in the minors, make a big thing of outward appearance, relegate the actual spirit of the thing to the hinterlands, and have no self-awareness of such at all.

Homer Simpson · 02-20-2009, 04:33 PM

The Bible says God is the creator of all even the Devil.. The Devil was in Heaven and was an angel before he thought he was God beter than God which is the ultimate being of all life form.. so the jaded angel was cast out of heaven onto the earth and hes has been decieving people since adam and eve.. the devil is where buddah and love of money is... you can make anything your god dont be confused about who God really is..
Every thing good comes from God!!!!!! everything not of God is of the Devil .. if God dwells in you he can do more than your mind can imagine

**thecavemaster** · 02-20-2009, 04:38 PM

Homer Simpson Wrote:The Bible says God is the creator of all even the Devil.. The Devil was in Heaven and was an angel before he thought he was God beter than God which is the ultimate being of all life form.. so the jaded angel was cast out of heaven onto the earth and hes has been decieving people since adam and eve.. the devil is where buddah and love of money is... you can make anything your god dont be confused about who God really is..
Every thing good comes from God!!!!!! everything not of God is of the Devil .. if God dwells in you he can do more than your mind can imagine

So, if I take you right, you are suggesting that Buddha is in "a devil's ****"? That Guatama Buddha, though he probably never heard of "jesus lord and savior" is where the worm doesn't turn and the fire is not quenched? Along with Hitler and Pol Pot? And your answer to this is, "The Bible tells me so"?

Homer Simpson · 02-20-2009, 05:58 PM

Yes sir

Homer Simpson · 02-20-2009, 06:11 PM

In the Bible the first Commndment is" thou shalt not have no other Gods before me".. Its ovious Buddah had no idea who God was or he would have known that he was only a man... the deception is people worshiping who they think is there God insted of who is there God.. You God my God the God of all .. Every morning you wake up .. every breathe of air you take every bite you eat every thing you see with your eyes is a gift from the one who is denied.. Its been long thought about the life we have been given and what its all about my suggestion would be to read proverbs.. and let your heart lead you and se what it tells you insted of what you may have heard or looking or some intellegence from another man who is your same position.. let your heart lead you ... read the bible in the spirit and dont judge it just check out the good teachings of live and lessons you can learn just from 1 book... The book was written by men, men also preach the gospel.. God talks to these people just like he talks to me and you.. listen and to your heart if you let him dwell in your heart all your questions/ burdens wil be releived and live life in his will.. not your own.. in my opionion me as a man here on this earth i see things all the time that convince me of God "the almighty".. just listen to your heart dont listen to your mind if you can find the time read proverbs.. but like i said im only a man

**thecavemaster** · 02-20-2009, 07:48 PM

If a person starts with the idea there is a Supreme Being, the human mind works in such a way that evidence will be all around. The opposite is also true. If I understand it right, jesus said in at least one place, "Don't believe the miracles, believe in me." ...which I take to mean perceive me through the spirit, not through the visible... then, once perceived by spirit, other things follow, like feeling humbled and a sense of awe at sunrise and sunset.

**Aslan** · 02-23-2009, 02:02 AM

thecavemaster Wrote:If a person starts with the idea there is a Supreme Being, the human mind works in such a way that evidence will be all around. The opposite is also true. If I understand it right, jesus said in at least one place, "Don't believe the miracles, believe in me." ...which I take to mean perceive me through the spirit, not through the visible... then, once perceived by spirit, other things follow, like feeling humbled and a sense of awe at sunrise and sunset.

The evidence is in everything you see.
Romans 1:20
20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualitiesâhis eternal power and divine natureâhave been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

For someone who don't believe in God, you can't prove or disprove God.

**BFritz** · 02-23-2009, 04:08 AM

helll is a state of mind

Every evil comes from making oneself greater than God and the center of everything- focused on oneself instead of trying to achieve the greater good for all.

Heaven is not a state of mind, and neither is happiness.

Want proof? Why do you think people who are addicted to drugs end up miserable? It's because drugs put them in a state of mind that makes people think that the drugs are their friend and/or takes them away from reality.

**Stardust** · 02-23-2009, 03:15 PM

BFritz Wrote:helll is a state of mind

Every evil comes from making oneself greater than God and the center of everything- focused on oneself instead of trying to achieve the greater good for all.

Heaven is not a state of mind, and neither is happiness.

Want proof? Why do you think people who are addicted to drugs end up miserable? It's because drugs put them in a state of mind that makes people think that the drugs are their friend and/or takes them away from reality.

Interesting comment, one that I don't totally agree with, but I find some things that i do agree with.

I think you comments on drugs are very solid. :Thumbs:

kidatheart · 02-24-2009, 01:41 PM

The way I look at things, believe what you want. I for one am a Christian and very proud. I have always been taught about church, God and Jesus. When I get to Heaven, I will talk to Jesus and ask any question that was never answered here on earth. For those non believers, you can ask the devil to answer your questions. Bad things happen to good people all the time, but I don't think God is punishing us. If everyone in the world made wise decisions all the time, there would be no crime or anything else bad on this earth. Stand up for what you believe in and be proud. God is very real and one day, all of us will stand for our belief. God is always around if anyone wants to ask for forgiveness.

**thecavemaster** · 02-24-2009, 07:18 PM

kidatheart Wrote:The way I look at things, believe what you want. I for one am a Christian and very proud. I have always been taught about church, God and Jesus. When I get to Heaven, I will talk to Jesus and ask any question that was never answered here on earth. For those non believers, you can ask the devil to answer your questions. Bad things happen to good people all the time, but I don't think God is punishing us. If everyone in the world made wise decisions all the time, there would be no crime or anything else bad on this earth. Stand up for what you believe in and be proud. God is very real and one day, all of us will stand for our belief. God is always around if anyone wants to ask for forgiveness.

Your tone sounds like you are mad at unbelievers and almost happy they will have to "ask the devil" to answer any questions. I would suggest to you that that tone, with the implied attitude behind it, makes religion unattracive, if not dangerous.

**BFritz** · 02-25-2009, 02:00 AM

Stardust Wrote:Interesting comment, one that I don't totally agree with, but I find some things that i do agree with.

I think you comments on drugs are very solid. :Thumbs:

Explain your belief that"s contradictory to mind (I'm not mad or anything, I'm just wondering).

Also, I said that Heaven and happiness aren't states of mind, and, by that, I meant that they're realities.

Helll and unhappiness are living in shadows, not being the people that God means for us to be, and all that is evil comes from a state of mind and false beliefs.

**DevilsWin** · 02-25-2009, 02:36 AM

kidatheart Wrote:The way I look at things, believe what you want. I for one am a Christian and very proud. I have always been taught about church, God and Jesus. When I get to Heaven, I will talk to Jesus and ask any question that was never answered here on earth. For those non believers, you can ask the devil to answer your questions. Bad things happen to good people all the time, but I don't think God is punishing us. If everyone in the world made wise decisions all the time, there would be no crime or anything else bad on this earth. Stand up for what you believe in and be proud. God is very real and one day, all of us will stand for our belief. God is always around if anyone wants to ask for forgiveness.

When did Pride get marked off the list of the 7 deadly sins?

Kentucky_Liberal · 02-25-2009, 05:19 AM

DevilsWin Wrote:When did Pride get marked off the list of the 7 deadly sins?

:thatsfunn

kidatheart · 02-25-2009, 10:28 AM

I am not mad at anyone over their belief. Everyone has a right to their own. I am just saying that I believe in God and in Heaven. At some point in life, everyone is a sinner and they have to make a choice. I made mine to serve God and I am proud to do just that. I don't try to push my belief on anyone, but if someone wants to talk (Christian or not), I will sit and listen. Everyone has opinions.

**Aslan** · 02-25-2009, 01:46 PM

thecavemaster Wrote:Your tone sounds like you are mad at unbelievers and almost happy they will have to "ask the devil" to answer any questions. I would suggest to you that that tone, with the implied attitude behind it, makes religion unattracive, if not dangerous.

I agree.

fanatic11 · 02-26-2009, 02:17 AM

DevilsWin Wrote:When did Pride get marked off the list of the 7 deadly sins?

i dont think it is ever a sin to be proud that you are a Christian

Deathstar 80 · 02-28-2009, 02:10 AM

Honestly, I don't see how those who don't believe in God can live through life. Whenever I think of myself without God, I think of myself being completely miserable.

Kentucky_Liberal · 02-28-2009, 09:40 AM

Deathstar 80 Wrote:Honestly, I don't see how those who don't believe in God can live through life. Whenever I think of myself without God, I think of myself being completely miserable.

I don't believe in god and i live perfectly happy and fine. Us non-believers Agnostic,Atheist alike aren't miserable most of us like science so that's where we get our enjoyment learning new things. and spending times with the ones we love we don't dwell on dieing. We're not afraid of dieing because we all know it's coming.

About the after life. If i die and i come before the Christian god. i'll admit i was wrong.