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04-02-2009, 12:19 PM
im a just looking for opinions on what are the early signs of high school baseball players that they might have a chance to play college baseball?
What is a projected batting average of a high school baseball player to be good enough to make it to the next level?
What is a projected batting average of a high school baseball player to be good enough to make it to the next level?
04-02-2009, 09:32 PM
At the high school level, definitely .500+, but without a terrific arm college scouts won't be interested.
04-03-2009, 12:13 AM
If you are going to play the field then you need to have a good 60 time.
04-03-2009, 12:47 AM
blackcat Wrote:At the high school level, definitely .500+, but without a terrific arm college scouts won't be interested.
Totally disagree 100%. Batting averages in high school are all relative to whomever the competition is. College coaches are smart enough to know that high school stats are sometimes very manipulated.
As far as the arm. For a postion player at the D1 level, a middle infielder should probably have a cross the diamond throw in the mid to high 80's minimum, and have a 60 time in the 6.5 to 6.9 range. An outfielder very similar.
04-04-2009, 07:55 PM
Mr.Kimball Wrote:Totally disagree 100%. Batting averages in high school are all relative to whomever the competition is. College coaches are smart enough to know that high school stats are sometimes very manipulated.
As far as the arm. For a postion player at the D1 level, a middle infielder should probably have a cross the diamond throw in the mid to high 80's minimum, and have a 60 time in the 6.5 to 6.9 range. An outfielder very similar.
I agree 100 %. To many family members keep the stats and of course they slide the stats to make their own look good.
04-04-2009, 09:25 PM
Mr.Kimball Wrote:Totally disagree 100%. Batting averages in high school are all relative to whomever the competition is. College coaches are smart enough to know that high school stats are sometimes very manipulated.
As far as the arm. For a postion player at the D1 level, a middle infielder should probably have a cross the diamond throw in the mid to high 80's minimum, and have a 60 time in the 6.5 to 6.9 range. An outfielder very similar.
I realize that the stats aren't always correct, and I was referring to the talent that subsides in the 15th region. And like I said a terrific arm.
04-04-2009, 10:43 PM
Mr.Kimball Wrote:Totally disagree 100%. Batting averages in high school are all relative to whomever the competition is. College coaches are smart enough to know that high school stats are sometimes very manipulated.
As far as the arm. For a postion player at the D1 level, a middle infielder should probably have a cross the diamond throw in the mid to high 80's minimum, and have a 60 time in the 6.5 to 6.9 range. An outfielder very similar.
You pretty much nailed that, you act like you've been through that before, haha! Just kidding! I do agree with you, so many times stats get to be played out of control, and that is why most coaches will want to see the player in game type atmosphere rather than a try out situation. Even with the 60 times I know a few coaches that dont even ask for a 60 time due to a lot of players can have fast 60 times, but be really slow on the field. Baseball speed and regualar speed are two different things. Just because you are fast doesnt mean you know how to run bases. You are right though those that do concentrate on the times generally like them to be under a 7.0.
04-04-2009, 11:37 PM
If he can switch hit that would help.
04-05-2009, 11:46 AM
Very few kids are recruited out of High School any more. My experience is that their are more college recruiters attending summer baseball than college. It's just like AAU Basketball, not much credence is put into HS sports because of the disparity of competition. AAU sports are meant to level the competition, thus college scouts get a better feel for the talent level.
Batting Average, win/losses, etc.. from HS man very little. I've helped several players put together their Player Profiles that should be sent to colleges beginning their Sophomore years, but no later than the summer prior to their Senior year of HS. PM me and I can get you a copy of a Player Profile that outlines the type of information that college coaches would like documented.
I will say this, if the athlete does not carry at minimum a 3.0, you may not get any money to play in college. I've seen kids that run in the 6's for the 60, but in the 1's and 2's in their school work who go on to take play beer league softball on Friday nights.
Also, be realistic. It is not very difficult to find a college team to play for. But don't be blinded to think you are DI material, there are very few of those athletes out there. In most cases, be agreeable to an NAIA or DII.
Batting Average, win/losses, etc.. from HS man very little. I've helped several players put together their Player Profiles that should be sent to colleges beginning their Sophomore years, but no later than the summer prior to their Senior year of HS. PM me and I can get you a copy of a Player Profile that outlines the type of information that college coaches would like documented.
I will say this, if the athlete does not carry at minimum a 3.0, you may not get any money to play in college. I've seen kids that run in the 6's for the 60, but in the 1's and 2's in their school work who go on to take play beer league softball on Friday nights.
Also, be realistic. It is not very difficult to find a college team to play for. But don't be blinded to think you are DI material, there are very few of those athletes out there. In most cases, be agreeable to an NAIA or DII.
04-05-2009, 10:23 PM
JackRabbitSlim Wrote:You pretty much nailed that, you act like you've been through that before, haha! Just kidding! I do agree with you, so many times stats get to be played out of control, and that is why most coaches will want to see the player in game type atmosphere rather than a try out situation. Even with the 60 times I know a few coaches that dont even ask for a 60 time due to a lot of players can have fast 60 times, but be really slow on the field. Baseball speed and regualar speed are two different things. Just because you are fast doesnt mean you know how to run bases. You are right though those that do concentrate on the times generally like them to be under a 7.0.
lol..Yeah, I guess you could say that. One of the best times of my life, and at the same time one of the most stressful as well. Parts I would love to have the opportunity to go through again, then there are other parts I hope I never go through again.
04-07-2009, 11:27 AM
Mr.Kimball Wrote:Totally disagree 100%. Batting averages in high school are all relative to whomever the competition is. College coaches are smart enough to know that high school stats are sometimes very manipulated.
As far as the arm. For a postion player at the D1 level, a middle infielder should probably have a cross the diamond throw in the mid to high 80's minimum, and have a 60 time in the 6.5 to 6.9 range. An outfielder very similar.
Thank you. I agree with 99%. I don't know too many middle infielders across the state that can throw mid to high 80's as 'a minimum'. Middle infielders need quick hands, quick feet, quick release and be able to make the routine play.
Batting averages are over-rated in most cases around these parts. When I was at Morehead State, the second coming of all eastern Kentucky shortstops was recruited by us. He hit .600+ with 9 homers and 60RBI and I was a little concerned by the numbers. He gets to MSU and all he can do is field a grounder. If someone knows who the shortstop I am referring to, please do not post his name.
04-07-2009, 12:23 PM
Brian Milam Wrote:Thank you. I agree with 99%. I don't know too many middle infielders across the state that can throw mid to high 80's as 'a minimum'. Middle infielders need quick hands, quick feet, quick release and be able to make the routine play.
Batting averages are over-rated in most cases around these parts. When I was at Morehead State, the second coming of all eastern Kentucky shortstops was recruited by us. He hit .600+ with 9 homers and 60RBI and I was a little concerned by the numbers. He gets to MSU and all he can do is field a grounder. If someone knows who the shortstop I am referring to, please do not post his name.
You make a good point. I guess that the point I was making is, there aren't many. But if you go to a showcase and listen to these guys that is what they ramble on about. It's just like pitchers that dont throw 90 in a showcase. Kid may be able to pitch , but get somewhat shunned at the showcase because the gun says they cant. Funny thing is that some of those D1 coaches that say they cant play at that level because they cant throw at that velocity or have those other numbers they state they want for middle infielders , have very few if any of those guys on their own rosters. I think your old coach was as guilty of that as anyone.
04-07-2009, 11:36 PM
Stardust Wrote:Very few kids are recruited out of High School any more. My experience is that their are more college recruiters attending summer baseball than college. It's just like AAU Basketball, not much credence is put into HS sports because of the disparity of competition. AAU sports are meant to level the competition, thus college scouts get a better feel for the talent level.
Batting Average, win/losses, etc.. from HS man very little. I've helped several players put together their Player Profiles that should be sent to colleges beginning their Sophomore years, but no later than the summer prior to their Senior year of HS. PM me and I can get you a copy of a Player Profile that outlines the type of information that college coaches would like documented.
I will say this, if the athlete does not carry at minimum a 3.0, you may not get any money to play in college. I've seen kids that run in the 6's for the 60, but in the 1's and 2's in their school work who go on to take play beer league softball on Friday nights.
Also, be realistic. It is not very difficult to find a college team to play for. But don't be blinded to think you are DI material, there are very few of those athletes out there. In most cases, be agreeable to an NAIA or DII.
I think I set myself up. I appreciate all the PM's that I have been getting, but it has made it difficult to reply to all.
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04-07-2009, 11:40 PM
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04-07-2009, 11:51 PM
There is a good chance for a few players... sucks as Daniel Harmon, Cody Varney, Dillon Hughes etc.
but they also have good chances at football scholarships
But sure there is plenty that wants to play in College that will not get to.
I WISH ALL PLAYERS THE BEST OF LUCK :Thumbs:
but they also have good chances at football scholarships
But sure there is plenty that wants to play in College that will not get to.
I WISH ALL PLAYERS THE BEST OF LUCK :Thumbs:
04-08-2009, 03:52 AM
Stardust Wrote:I think I set myself up. I appreciate all the PM's that I have been getting, but it has made it difficult to reply to all.
It spurred a thought though, and I am in the midst of putting together a website that hopefully provides the type of information needed to promote yourself of your son in an attempt to play Baseball beyond High School.
I'd love your feedback and comments. There is a "Contact Me" page that will allow you to post questions and comments. I am hopeful that this provides you a resource in putting together a Marketing package.
I hope to add sections on what to look for in a college. What research you need to do of the schools you are interested in. A how to in putting together a cover letter and a Player Profile. If anyone has ideas, please pass them on to me.
Please be patient as I build the site.
The link that I have created is: http://collegebaseballprospects.webs.com/
There is a website like this called http://www.berecruited.com its a really good site where you can add footage of yourself and other facts that are needed.
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