[jetpilot]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/i...rming.html

[outdoorsman43]

Great article that everyone should read.

[Youngerthandirt]

I totally agree with Mr. Blamkenship. I think he is one of those guys who will challenge even the President if he believes in something strong enough.

I'm sure some of resident anti-coal people will disagree, but electing Obama was the worst think that could happen to the coal business. The United States has been called the Saudia Arabia of coal, and we're sitting on millions and millinos of unmined tons, and he is going to bring it all to a sudden stop if this bill passes.

I like to hear people make the arguement that suface mines is destroying streams. Most of the streams filled in with dirt are streams that only run water in the winter and early spring. On the side of every fill are two drains that allow water run-off so in fairness, they are doubling the amount of streams. Ponds are built to catch any silt runoff. Gas compnay roads and roads built by logging companies have way less water control that surface mines.

Nuclear energy may be cleaner that coal, but what about the long term effects? Who can tell me that storing waste from a nuclear plant is safe. Wind energy, how much space will it take to produce enough energy to power a city or state. That would be the cleanest way to produce power, but can it be the most effective, plus how long would it take to get it up and running........years and years.

I don't want to pretent to know all the answers, but I honestly don't think cap and trade is the way to go for not just our region, but for the United States.

[Stardust]

I totally agree with Mr. Blamkenship. I think he is one of those guys who will challenge even the President if he believes in something strong enough.

I'm sure some of resident anti-coal people will disagree, but electing Obama was the worst think that could happen to the coal business. The United States has been called the Saudia Arabia of coal, and we're sitting on millions and millinos of unmined tons, and he is going to bring it all to a sudden stop if this bill passes.

I like to hear people make the arguement that suface mines is destroying streams. Most of the streams filled in with dirt are streams that only run water in the winter and early spring. On the side of every fill are two drains that allow water run-off so in fairness, they are doubling the amount of streams. Ponds are built to catch any silt runoff. Gas compnay roads and roads built by logging companies have way less water control that surface mines.

Nuclear energy may be cleaner that coal, but what about the long term effects? Who can tell me that storing waste from a nuclear plant is safe. Wind energy, how much space will it take to produce enough energy to power a city or state. That would be the cleanest way to produce power, but can it be the most effective, plus how long would it take to get it up and running........years and years.

I don't want to pretent to know all the answers, but I honestly don't think cap and trade is the way to go for not just our region, but for the United States.

Very well thought out, great post :Thumbs:

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

IMO the only thing that makes GOD laugh harder than folks telling him their future plans is these commie environmental nut jobs talking about "saving the world". LOL!

[TheRealVille]

IMO the only thing that makes GOD laugh harder than folks telling him their future plans is these commie environmental nut jobs talking about "saving the world". LOL!

What if there is no God and your children have to suffer the consequences of our actions?

I believe in God, but, what if? Are you willing to kill your ancestors over it?

[jetpilot]

What if there is no God and your children have to suffer the consequences of our actions?

I believe in God, but, what if? Are you willing to kill your ancestors over it?

The only part of that mess I understand is "Go Tigers."
We can't kill our ancestors, they're already dead.

[OrangenowBlue]

What if there is no God and your children have to suffer the consequences of our actions?

I believe in God, but, what if? Are you willing to kill your ancestors over it?

Do you mean descendants.

[TheRealVille]

Do you mean descendants.

LOL, yes.

[TheRealVille]

What if we are wrong about God and our actions today affect or even wipe out our decendants. What if there is no God that is not going to come back and destroy the world and it is supposed to sustain life on and on, are we willing to keep poluting the world and help destroy the Earth in the right now and not worry about our kids?

[Youngerthandirt]

What if frogs had wings.....?

[cuppett777]

What if there is no God and your children have to suffer the consequences of our actions?

I believe in God, but, what if? Are you willing to kill your ancestors over it?

IF u belived in GOD, you woudnt have what IF there s a GOD come out of your mouth so do you really belive what you say?

[cuppett777]

good post, if there was global warming why has it been so,cool this year,and the ice storms in febuary that destroyed so much here in western ky this year?,hummmmmm its all a scam

[OrangenowBlue]

The only thing worse than a hippy commie is people who are conservative christian hypocrites. They both irritate me. Libertarians all the way.

[TheRealVille]

good post, if there was global warming why has it been so,cool this year,and the ice storms in febuary that destroyed so much here in western ky this year?,hummmmmm its all a scam

lol

[Stardust]

good post, if there was global warming why has it been so,cool this year,and the ice storms in febuary that destroyed so much here in western ky this year?,hummmmmm its all a scam

It's really a cover up for GLOBAL COOLING:biggrin:

[DevilsWin]

Well just for the record, remember that Don Blankenship is the same guy who bribed West Virginia Supreme Court Justice Brent Benjamin.

Real "stand up guy" that Blankenship.

[jetpilot]

Well just for the record, remember that Don Blankenship is the same guy who bribed West Virginia Supreme Court Justice Brent Benjamin.

Real "stand up guy" that Blankenship.

What does that have to do with cap and trade? Typical, attack the character of the messenger if you have nothing to contribute on the issue. Common tactic used by the dull and ignorant.

BTW, you open yourself to multiple lawsuits by falsely claiming Blankenship "bribed" anyone. He was neither charged nor convicted of any such thing. Low even for you DW.

[phs1986]

Well just for the record, remember that Don Blankenship is the same guy who bribed West Virginia Supreme Court Justice Brent Benjamin.

Real "stand up guy" that Blankenship.

Let's see.... Did your comment actually pertain to the "cap and trade" issue? NOT! If you actually knew Mr. Blankenship, you would see and KNOW that he does stand up for what he feels is right and right now, his focus is keeping our economy on it's feet (due to our poor choices lately) and the men working to provide for their families. SO, with that being said, I'm getting on topic...

Excellent article, everyone needs to fully and competely read it!

[Mr.Kimball]

Well just for the record, remember that Don Blankenship is the same guy who bribed West Virginia Supreme Court Justice Brent Benjamin.

Real "stand up guy" that Blankenship.

Boy , it didn't take long for you to get right back in the swing of things. First day back on the job and it's once a foot in the mouth, always a foot in the mouth.

But, that's alright, you can take solace in knowing that you were the first to recoqnize and inform us all that " OBAMA HAS THE ECONOMY RIGHT BACK ON TRACK".

Another Classic from the fingertips of ole DW!!!! :Clap:

[outdoorsman43]

Boy , it didn't take long for you to get right back in the swing of things. First day back on the job and it's once a foot in the mouth, always a foot in the mouth.

But, that's alright, you can take solace in knowing that you were the first to recoqnize and inform us all that " OBAMA HAS THE ECONOMY RIGHT BACK ON TRACK".

Another Classic from the fingertips of ole DW!!!! :Clap:

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We've missed you DW.

[Mr.Kimball]

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We've missed you DW.

I know I have.:letsparty

[jetpilot]

I know I have.:letsparty

Ditto.irateSho

[Wildcatk23]

What if we are wrong about God and our actions today affect or even wipe out our decendants. What if there is no God that is not going to come back and destroy the world and it is supposed to sustain life on and on, are we willing to keep poluting the world and help destroy the Earth in the right now and not worry about our kids?

I agree with you 100%. People think that god will save them when times are bad, and times are extremely bad now and i hear no trumpets sounding!!!!

[outdoorsman43]

I agree with you 100%. People think that god will save them when times are bad, and times are extremely bad now and i hear no trumpets sounding!!!!

You people think these times are bad, you haven't seen anything yet.

Let's keep religion out of this thread, completely different subject.

[Mr.Kimball]

I agree with you 100%. People think that god will save them when times are bad, and times are extremely bad now and i hear no trumpets sounding!!!!

What you are seeing is only the tip of the iceburg for eastern Kentucky, my friend. If you were on the business side of things you would know what I am talking about.

[mrsportsfan]

good post, if there was global warming why has it been so,cool this year,and the ice storms in febuary that destroyed so much here in western ky this year?,hummmmmm its all a scam

For the same reason we had blistering temperatures last year and no rain, so no water. We had plenty of rain this year so we will probably be back to a drought next year or cold temperatures next year. There is nothing wrong with coal, you just have to burn it more effectively. If you live in Pike Co., you have lost a loved one, know someone who has, or people now that are dying from cancer. All the sludge that was dumped and is being dumped in Grundy to come to our drinking supply, is the one of the major causes. When the paper prints that you shouldn't eat more than a few fish a year out of fishtrap, doesn't that ring a bell? Don't eat the fish, but here drink the water. If there is anybody on these boards who works with the EPA and knows the cancer rate in Pike Co., I would sure be interested. It is off the charts. There is so much chlorine in our water coming out of our faucets, that if you run a bath, and then walk in the room, the fumes are overpowering.

[DevilsWin]

Did he or did he not finance Mr Benjamin's campaign just so he(Mr Blankenship) would have a WVSCJ in his pocket?

The U.S. Supreme Court just ruled on the case and Mr. Benjamin has been told to step down from his seat on the WV Supreme Court.

[DevilsWin]

Just so ya know about the guy that you are placing your trust in:

Washington political journalist Michael Tomasky, himself a native West Virginian, claims that Blankenship is "famous in West Virginia as the man who successfully bought himself a state supreme court justice in 2004 and then tried to buy himself the state legislature, failing spectacularly at the latter effort"[31].
[INDENT] The justice he succeeded in having replaced in 2004 was Warren McGraw, one of the elected, five-member court's liberals who frequently sided with [Massey Energy] workers in injury and compensation cases. McGraw was up for reelection in 2004, and Blankenship wanted him out. That McGraw had sided with workers was not likely to stir much passionate opposition, so Blankenship found a case in which McGraw had been part of a 3–2 majority that had freed a mentally disturbed child molester who then went to work in a school. Blankenship established and funded an independent tax-deductible group called And for the Sake of the Kids, which ran ads attacking McGraw's part in the decision. McGraw was defeated, and Brent Benjamin, the conservative candidate whom Blankenship favored, duly took his seat on the court. To demonstrate that his interest in the children was sincere, Blankenship had vowed that after the election, he would endow a foundation to help the state's needy children.[31]
[/INDENT] Michael Shnayerson, author of the recent book Coal River, reports that no such foundation was ever set up. In 2006, the $3 million that he had provided to 40 Republican challengers to Democratic state legislators brought just a single victory[32].
Although Blankenship was the primary donor to "And For the Sake of Kids," other groups, including Doctors for Justice, contributed over $1 million to ASK. Another group, Citizens for Quality Health Care, funded in part by the West Virginia Chamber of Commerce, spent over $350,000 to defeat McGraw. [33]. Meanwhile, several groups spent millions opposing Benjamin and supporting McGraw, including West Virginia Consumers for Justice and Hugh Caperton, CEO of Harmon Development Corporation.[34]
On April 3, 2008, ABC News reported that Blankenship attacked an ABC News cameraman at a Massey facility near Belfry, Kentucky as the camerman attempted to question Blankenship about photos published in the New York Times [35] showing Blankenship on vacation in Monaco with West Virginia Supreme Court Justice Elliott "Spike" Maynard. "If you're going to start taking pictures of me, you're liable to get shot," Blankenship stated in the video[36].
Following the incident, Justice Maynard lost his bid for re-election to the West Virginia Supreme Court in the West Virginia primary election [37].
Massey has a $77 million case pending in which a smaller coal mining company, Harman Mining, alleges contract interference by Massey [38]. In November, 2008, the Supreme Court agreed to hear Harman Mining's appeal of the case[39]. Wal-Mart, PepsiCo, Intel, Lockheed Martin, Common Cause and Public Citizen filed briefs in the case urging the Supreme Court to throw out the West Virginia Supreme Court's decision in favor of Massey. The corporations contend that Justice Brent Benjamin is biased in the case. Blankenship made approximately $3 million in independent expenditures supporting Benjamin's 2004 campaign for the West Va. Supreme Court, and also contributed $1000 to Benjamin's campaign. On June 9, 2009 The New York Times opined that the case involved "egregious ethical myopia" on the part of Justice Benjamin. [40] [41].
A former employee of Blankenship, Deborah May, has filed a lawsuit claiming that stress from personal abuse forced her to quit her job as Blankenship's personal maid in November, 2005. The lawsuit claims that a wrong breakfast order from McDonald's, misplaced ice cream in the freezer and an improperly hung jacket in the closet caused difficulties with Blankenship [42].
On Nov 22, 2008 the Williamson (WV) Daily News reported that Blankenship compared the editor of the Charleston Gazette, James A. Haught, to Osama bin Laden at a public speech to the Tug Valley Mining Institute on Nov 20 [43]. In the videotaped speech, Blankenship called House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senator Harry Reid and former Vice President Al Gore "crazies" and "greeniacs" [44]. In the same speech he also stated "i don't believe climate change is real" (see: Climate change denial), a controversial statement given his status as a Coal Mining Company CEO. He referred to the support of President Jimmy Carter for energy conservation in the 1970s to communism: "Buy a smaller car? Conserve? I have spent quite a bit of time in Russia and China, and that's the first stage."
In February 2003 a judge ordered Massey to pay the residents of Sylvester, West Virginia $473,000 to settle complaints that coal dust from Massey's Elk Run Processing Plant had caused health problems and lowered property values in the nearby town.[45] The judge also ordered Massey to construct a cloth dome over their facility to reduce the dust.[46]
On September 16, 2004, a civil jury ordered Massey to pay $1.54 million in damages to 245 residents of Mingo County, W. Va., who lost their water wells after Massey had mined beneath the homes. The jury concluded that Massey acted “with malicious, willful, wanton, reckless or intentional disregard for plaintiffs’ rights.” [47]
In December, 2008 residents of Prenter, West Virginia filed a lawsuit claiming that underground slurry injection from a Massey coal facility and other coal preparation plants contaminated their underground water supply [48]

[jetpilot]

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