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Alcoa (TN) @ Bell Co. Aug. 21st
BellCoBobcats09 Wrote:Boyle County in Kentucky won 5 straight too. The same team Bell Co beat last year at Log Mountain.

Comparing a KY football team to a TN football team?.........that don't mean :flush:
BellCoBobcats09 Wrote:Like I said on CoachT.com Dudley Hilton is a very good coach and knows how to control the game clock. He has 3 State Championship and 325 wins. Would had a 4th one until Highlands used a inelgible player that year that scored on Bell with like a min to go in the game in the State Semi's. Highlands went on that year to win State.

Dudley is one of the best coaches in the state of Kentucky hands down, the guy knows how to win. Bell strongest thing is there Defense they had 8 shutouts last year and only like 80 points scored on them out of 15 games. This will be a close game either way if Bell wins or loses. Bells D will keep them in it to the very end.


Coach Dudley is a excellent coach with great success. But Alcoa's Coach Rankin
has had even more success, more wins, more championships and this year a better team.:notworthy
Bell Boys Fan Wrote:You have no idea dude what's coming your way so my advise to you is "sit down, hold on and shut up"!
:redboxer:

But see...........I DO know what is coming.:popcorn:

Just wait after the game, I'll really be :rockon:

AND if Bell wins.........I WILL be back to eat crow and take my beating.....:ChairHit:

But the truth is after Alcoa runs all over Bell.....This thread will be a ghost town.:eyeroll:
BCsportsfan Wrote:THE TRUE HURTS HUH? I stated the area of KY is weak in football as a whole (except Louisville area).....I'm not calling out individual players.

Just the same TN football will never compete again states like TX, CA, FLA, etc. Simple truth.

After the 21th......you will see the difference in a state championship from TN vs a championship team from KY.:Thumbs:

Looks like your the only one that thinks that Bell is weak every one i have talk to that knows any thing about football knows that Bell and Alcoa is both tuff teams. Your the only one that talks stupid when it comes to this game. looks like the rest of the area is waiting to see what happens on log mountain before they talk. :rockon:
BC I agree with some of the things you say but to say Ky is weaker than Tn in HS football you are showing how "uneducated" you truly are. You can't make a blanket statement that TN is better than Ky. Both states have some bad teams. Look at the last few all-star games in which KY dominated TN. And before you say it both sides had D-1 players not taking part just not just the Tn side.

We have shared the field with many teams (AE, Knoxville Central, K'ville West, Fulton etc.) from your area over the last 20 years and I can say I was never overly impressed with any of them. They all have athletes that look good but not many are true football players.


How many D-1 players has Maryville produced compared to Alcoa????? But Maryville always to seem to whip up on you all.:popcorn:
Just remember this talent does not mean everything. Speed size and so on are good to have but that don't mean you are going to win. We are not meeting for a track meet or weight lifting competition.
Bobcat_Dad Wrote:Just remember this talent does not mean everything. Speed size and so on are good to have but that don't mean you are going to win. We are not meeting for a track meet or weight lifting competition.

Bobcat Dad, I am so glad that these games arent played on paper. 7 days and win or loss, time to put up or shut up. Either way, I am sure that the Bell Co. kids will give a good account of themselves! It will be a fun game to watch but someone has to loose.
EKUAlum05 Wrote:No because Seiber is a Senior. That means they will only have two kickers on scholarship, not three next year. That way Tydlacka is a Senior and he is only a Freshman coming off his redshirt year.

Nobody will disagree Seiber has been an epic failure, but no coach in their right mind would kick a player off the team that they recruited simply because he isn't playing up to par. Talk about a recruiting nightmare.

Speaking of nightmares in recruiting, how would you judge our recruiting for next year?
This thread is easily goning to get the award for most pic's in board history.

Who are the projected starters for the "gentle breezes"?
BCsportsfan Wrote:Comparing a KY football team to a TN football team?.........that don't mean :flush:

Go play Highlands! Then you can compare what means:flush:
Bobcat_Dad Wrote:BC I agree with some of the things you say but to say Ky is weaker than Tn in HS football you are showing how "uneducated" you truly are. You can't make a blanket statement that TN is better than Ky. Both states have some bad teams. Look at the last few all-star games in which KY dominated TN. And before you say it both sides had D-1 players not taking part just not just the Tn side.

We have shared the field with many teams (AE, Knoxville Central, K'ville West, Fulton etc.) from your area over the last 20 years and I can say I was never overly impressed with any of them. They all have athletes that look good but not many are true football players.


How many D-1 players has Maryville produced compared to Alcoa????? But Maryville always to seem to whip up on you all.:popcorn:

Well Dad, there are some truths in the all-stars to be noted. But, The point of you and others holding Alcoa's losses to Maryville over our heads, is silly.........in a way your are trying to compare Bell co. last ten years to MARYVILLE? Now that's very "uneducated". Bell Co. would no doubt be win less against the Rebels.

Alcoa has only lost 6 games in 5 years. 5 of those to Nationally ranked Maryville that went 74-0, the second winnest high school team in history. Bell IS NOT in the same league or on the same planet! SO, your statements are beyond "uneducated"

Maryville has had close to the same amount of D1 players as Alcoa. Maryville has had the best Coaching staff in the state for the last ten years. Alcoa has been out coached bad in the past. Coach Rankin and Coach Nix's has closed that gap BIG TIME. Now Alcoa has great coaching, great talent, and great community support.

Alcoa roster is 91 players this year. That's out of a school that has 544 students. That's almost 50% of the male population. Unreal. Plus, Alcoa has had more D1 talent then any other school for its size.

Alcoa's D1 talent, but not real football players?...Hmmmmm.......Randall, Kyrus...........UT's Warren, Sykes?? I'd say they are REAL football players!

Yep, Alcoa has taken the field with A-E, West, and Fulton the last ten years. A-E zero wins against Alcoa, West was 0-2........and Fulton 1-1, with Alcoa pounding them 48-6 in `2005. So, what's you point?

The truth is coming to log mtn. And, the truth is Bell Co. WILL NOT match up!
I would say since it is such a bad match-up don't come, but on second thought we want your money.

Coach Rankin scheduled the game with thoughts that it would be competetive. Are you saying you know more than him???
BCsportsfan Wrote:And actually looking at Bell Co. past games..........the boobcats have not exactly dominated a very weak upper TN team, Volunteer H.S. that's a typically 3-7, 5-5 team at best, in a very weak upper TN region.......:yawn:

I think you need to check out the score against volunteer, both games, by halftime. You're right, upper tn is very weak.
BCsportsfan Wrote:Well Dad, there are some truths in the all-stars to be noted. But, The point of you and others holding Alcoa's losses to Maryville over our heads, is silly.........in a way your are trying to compare Bell co. last ten years to MARYVILLE? Now that's very "uneducated". Bell Co. would no doubt be win less against the Rebels.

Alcoa has only lost 6 games in 5 years. 5 of those to Nationally ranked Maryville that went 74-0, the second winnest high school team in history. Bell IS NOT in the same league or on the same planet! SO, your statements are beyond "uneducated"

Maryville has had close to the same amount of D1 players as Alcoa. Maryville has had the best Coaching staff in the state for the last ten years. Alcoa has been out coached bad in the past. Coach Rankin and Coach Nix's has closed that gap BIG TIME. Now Alcoa has great coaching, great talent, and great community support.

Alcoa roster is 91 players this year. That's out of a school that has 544 students. That's almost 50% of the male population. Unreal. Plus, Alcoa has had more D1 talent then any other school for its size.

Alcoa's D1 talent, but not real football players?...Hmmmmm.......Randall, Kyrus...........UT's Warren, Sykes?? I'd say they are REAL football players!

Yep, Alcoa has taken the field with A-E, West, and Fulton the last ten years. A-E zero wins against Alcoa, West was 0-2........and Fulton 1-1, with Alcoa pounding them 48-6 in `2005. So, what's you point?

The truth is coming to log mtn. And, the truth is Bell Co. WILL NOT match up!

Here's what you don't understand " highly uneducated". Highlands is as good if not better than Maryville. In order for us to win a state title in the 80's, 90's, and early 00's we had to beat Highlands. You didn't have to beat Maryville to win your's. If you would have, how many would be in your trophy case?
easyM Wrote:Go play Highlands! Then you can compare what means:flush:


How about Alcoa, a small 2A 544 student school come whip a 4A 864 student school first! :eyeroll:

Why don't Big bad Bell Co. travel outside the state and play bigger teams like Alcoa does? Why don't Bell play Highlands, Trinity and St. Xavier like Alcoa plays up against National power Maryville?

TN teams play KY teams............Trinity vs MBA, `2006, MBA 23-21. Trinity was state champions with a 14-1 record............only lose to a TN team....yawn.

Looking at Trinity, St Xavier and Highland records............they all take a beating when they face an out of state teams.....hmmm. KY football is WEAK!
BCsportsfan Wrote:Well Dad, there are some truths in the all-stars to be noted. But, The point of you and others holding Alcoa's losses to Maryville over our heads, is silly.........in a way your are trying to compare Bell co. last ten years to MARYVILLE? Now that's very "uneducated". Bell Co. would no doubt be win less against the Rebels.

Alcoa has only lost 6 games in 5 years. 5 of those to Nationally ranked Maryville that went 74-0, the second winnest high school team in history. Bell IS NOT in the same league or on the same planet! SO, your statements are beyond "uneducated"

Maryville has had close to the same amount of D1 players as Alcoa. Maryville has had the best Coaching staff in the state for the last ten years. Alcoa has been out coached bad in the past. Coach Rankin and Coach Nix's has closed that gap BIG TIME. Now Alcoa has great coaching, great talent, and great community support.

Alcoa roster is 91 players this year. That's out of a school that has 544 students. That's almost 50% of the male population. Unreal. Plus, Alcoa has had more D1 talent then any other school for its size.

Alcoa's D1 talent, but not real football players?...Hmmmmm.......Randall, Kyrus...........UT's Warren, Sykes?? I'd say they are REAL football players!

Yep, Alcoa has taken the field with A-E, West, and Fulton the last ten years. A-E zero wins against Alcoa, West was 0-2........and Fulton 1-1, with Alcoa pounding them 48-6 in `2005. So, what's you point?

The truth is coming to log mtn. And, the truth is Bell Co. WILL NOT match up!

Alcoa has a very good football program. I certainly don't think it will be a sure win for the Bobcats, but find it hard to believe we will get pushed around by anyone. I think you might be suprised by how well we do play the game.

I do find it pretty obnoxious for you to come on thread and spew so much though. I bet you think Kiffen was a good hire too though. And what else can be said about Diamond Dave Pearl......so I guess it shouldn't suprise us that you can sure blow up an onion sack.

It would be a heck of a crow to try and choke down, if the F5 proved to only be a fart in a whirl-wind.
easyM Wrote:Here's what you don't understand " highly uneducated". Highlands is as good if not better than Maryville. In order for us to win a state title in the 80's, 90's, and early 00's we had to beat Highlands. You didn't have to beat Maryville to win your's. If you would have, how many would be in your trophy case?

BS. Simply show me where Highlands has been ranked ahead of Maryville in National polls like Scouts, Rivals, USAtoday, SI, etc..............2000-2008

Alcoa beat 4A state champions Maryville in `2000 and went on to a 15-0 record.

Alcoa being a 2A school only has to beat same size schools for the trophy. So, the number would be the SAME!:moon:

Alcoa does not have too play Maryville, But that is the most looked forward game of the season for both teams! Alcoa plays UP in out of region games always!

Alcoa's not scared to come to log mtn. They are use to being GIANT KILLERS.

Too bad Bell Co. is too chicken to come to Blount Co. and play both MAryville and Alcoa! TaLK about getting your Bell rung!:Thumbs:
BCsportsfan Wrote:BS. Simply show me where Highlands has been ranked ahead of Maryville in National polls like Scouts, Rivals, USAtoday, SI, etc..............2000-2008

Alcoa beat 4A state champions Maryville in `2000 and went on to a 15-0 record.

Alcoa being a 2A school only has to beat same size schools for the trophy. So, the number would be the SAME!:moon:

Alcoa does not have too play Maryville, But that is the most looked forward game of the season for both teams! Alcoa plays UP in out of region games always!

Alcoa's not scared to come to log mtn. They are use to being GIANT KILLERS.

Too bad Bell Co. is too chicken to come to Blount Co. and play both MAryville and Alcoa! TaLK about getting your Bell rung!:Thumbs:

Go look it up on scouts or rivals for yourself. If your coach will listen to you (which I doubt very seriously) go play the bluebirds. By the way, Highlands does have more students than we ever have. We only had four classes at that time. Highlands had more boys than we did students.
bellcats Wrote:Alcoa has a very good football program. I certainly don't think it will be a sure win for the Bobcats, but find it hard to believe we will get pushed around by anyone. I think you might be suprised by how well we do play the game.

I do find it pretty obnoxious for you to come on thread and spew so much though. I bet you think Kiffen was a good hire too though. And what else can be said about Diamond Dave Pearl......so I guess it shouldn't suprise us that you can sure blow up an onion sack.

It would be a heck of a crow to try and choke down, if the F5 proved to only be a fart in a whirl-wind.

Kiffen and company will OWN KY football for years too come. Hate it for my Alcoa boys at KY.

Pearl got the better of Memphis just like he will KY!:Thumbs:

Alcoa WILL control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball AND push Bell around.

Next.....who's next!:redboxer:
easyM Wrote:Go look it up on scouts or rivals for yourself. If your coach will listen to you (which I doubt very seriously) go play the bluebirds. By the way, Highlands does have more students than we ever have. We only had four classes at that time. Highlands had more boys than we did students.

This is easy........Alcoas not playing Highlands, They are coming to play Bell Co. You can try a get "big brother highlands" to play this game but that's not what is scheduled. So, quit "hiding" behind other teams.

It's Alcoa vs Bell County!
Bobcat_Dad Wrote:I would say since it is such a bad match-up don't come, but on second thought we want your money.

Coach Rankin scheduled the game with thoughts that it would be competetive. Are you saying you know more than him???

LOL at taking our money....That's pretty good dad. We are lucky to have Maryville game at home this year. Last year was a financial disaster for the F5 as far as a visitors gate was concerned. Although I thought I read something about splitting the gate with the Rebels over the next few years if I am not mistaken. It is a shame that we have two 6A schools in the same county dad that refuse to play us so we have to jump on a bus and head to Bell and to Chattanooga later this season.
I, for one, hope the game is more competitive that we are thinking it will be. Playing a good team before we line up against the Evil Empire will only make us better.
For who ever mentioned Highlands and Maryville in the same sentence....:dontthink:dontthink
Bell competition last season looks a lot like Alcoa's....not much during the regular season, but in the playoffs, the Cats were tested HARD. While the F5, not so much. Bell put up some stupid numbers. Alcoa used to be in that vein until we got a coach with some class that kept the scores respectable without humiliating the opponent.
BTW does Kentucky have a "mercy rule?"
In TN, when a team has a 35 point lead, the clock runs continuously. Which also keeps the scores down.
BCsportsfan Wrote:This is easy........Alcoas not playing Highlands, They are coming to play Bell Co. You can try a get "big brother highlands" to play this game but that's not what is scheduled. So, quit "hiding" behind other teams.

It's Alcoa vs Bell County!

I didn't use my big brother until after you used your's! We should come to bunt co. and play mville and alcoy both.
BCsportsfan Wrote:Kiffen and company will OWN KY football for years too come. Hate it for my Alcoa boys at KY.

Pearl got the better of Memphis just like he will KY!:Thumbs:

Alcoa WILL control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball AND push Bell around.

Next.....who's next!:redboxer:


Kiffen was a worse hire than BCG at KY. Time will tell....he has an alligator mouth and a hummingbird a$$.

Pearl can't beat KY....so good thing we don't like Memphis.

I hope you are the head coach and have alot of pride.....so you will try and pound the ball up the middle.
bellcats Wrote:Kiffen was a worse hire than BCG at KY. Time will tell....he has an alligator mouth and a hummingbird a$$.

Pearl can't beat KY....so good thing we don't like Memphis.

I hope you are the head coach and have alot of pride.....so you will try and pound the ball up the middle.


Kiffin will kick Brooks butt year in and year out. Monte Kiffin is the god of defensive Coor.! TN football is BACK!:rockon:
AlcoasPaintedBridge Wrote:LOL at taking our money....That's pretty good dad. We are lucky to have Maryville game at home this year. Last year was a financial disaster for the F5 as far as a visitors gate was concerned. Although I thought I read something about splitting the gate with the Rebels over the next few years if I am not mistaken. It is a shame that we have two 6A schools in the same county dad that refuse to play us so we have to jump on a bus and head to Bell and to Chattanooga later this season.
I, for one, hope the game is more competitive that we are thinking it will be. Playing a good team before we line up against the Evil Empire will only make us better.
For who ever mentioned Highlands and Maryville in the same sentence....:dontthink:dontthink
Bell competition last season looks a lot like Alcoa's....not much during the regular season, but in the playoffs, the Cats were tested HARD. While the F5, not so much. Bell put up some stupid numbers. Alcoa used to be in that vein until we got a coach with some class that kept the scores respectable without humiliating the opponent.
BTW does Kentucky have a "mercy rule?"
In TN, when a team has a 35 point lead, the clock runs continuously. Which also keeps the scores down.

There is a mercy rule in ky. Dud doesn't run the score up on teams. I hope you wasn't implying that? If you run three plays and score with your freshman team on the field you're not running the score up.
And, I was the one mentioned Highlands and Maryville in the same sentence. I very much respect Maryville but I inturn respect Highlands just as much. Except for the year we were cheated out of a state championship when they we're playing a ineligible player. But, all in all, they are one heck of a team. They play on espn this year. You have to pretty decent to play on there.
BCsportsfan Wrote:easyM.....are you a Bell sheep or a Highlands sheep? This is a Bell vs Alcoa thread. You trying to hide behind Highlands too?!:lmao:


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AlcoasPaintedBridge Wrote:LOL at taking our money....That's pretty good dad. We are lucky to have Maryville game at home this year. Last year was a financial disaster for the F5 as far as a visitors gate was concerned. Although I thought I read something about splitting the gate with the Rebels over the next few years if I am not mistaken. It is a shame that we have two 6A schools in the same county dad that refuse to play us so we have to jump on a bus and head to Bell and to Chattanooga later this season.
I, for one, hope the game is more competitive that we are thinking it will be. Playing a good team before we line up against the Evil Empire will only make us better.
For who ever mentioned Highlands and Maryville in the same sentence....:dontthink:dontthink
Bell competition last season looks a lot like Alcoa's....not much during the regular season, but in the playoffs, the Cats were tested HARD. While the F5, not so much. Bell put up some stupid numbers. Alcoa used to be in that vein until we got a coach with some class that kept the scores respectable without humiliating the opponent.
BTW does Kentucky have a "mercy rule?"
In TN, when a team has a 35 point lead, the clock runs continuously. Which also keeps the scores down.

yes ky has the same rule, i know coach haywood at belfry,he wont allow that stuff to happen,not sure if coach hilton does that or not.
easyM Wrote:There is a mercy rule in ky. Dud doesn't run the score up on teams. I hope you wasn't implying that? If you run three plays and score with your freshman team on the field you're not running the score up.

10/10/08 Madison Southern (Berea, KY) 65-0
10/24/08 McCreary Central 70-0
10/30/08 Leslie County 62-0
11/14/08 Lawrence County (Louisa, KY) 62-0

Why would I ever imply anything like that??
We have had to fight that battle as well....It's a no win.
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cuppett777 Wrote:yes ky has the same rule, i know coach haywood at belfry,he wont allow that stuff to happen,not sure if coach hilton does that or not.

Based on what I've seen of Coach Haywood I believe every word of what you just said. Good coaches and programs don't. I have a lot of respect for Coach Haywood and Belfry. Bell's program and Belfry's are almost identical. Check out the two coaches winning records. It's scary how close they are.
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