[cardinalmomma]

How do you shut a team completely out and then have to listen to why you didn't deserve to win the game? 6-0 is a win and a well deserved one at that. SC won the game. It's that simple.
Any coach can point out this or that that either helped you or hindered you from winning a game. The game was decided the other night, no need in trying to play it back over now. It is what it is.

Very well said... i agree. SC came out to play and that's what they did, if we hash out all the penalities, SC had a bunch as well. Our boys play with all heart.. they want to play.. they want to hit.. .they are READY... way to go SC... the fans are soooo very proud of you guys :Thumbs:

[Protect_This_House26]

I knew Breathitt was not bullet proof. I just think SC blind sided everyone including Fugate. That says alot for that defensive unit. SHELDON CLARK-6 BREATHITT CO.-0 that just hapenned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh really? Did that really just happen? Cause I wasn't sure if it did or not. Thanks for the info. :Thumbs:

[Csportsman11]

I really think most Breathitt Bocat fans want to say NO EXCUSSES,they beat us but we really defeated ourselves.That was a great game to watch even tho it was a loss had everything the game of football was and is about,Flags flying,footballs in air,ground game and DEFENSE both teams so if your a fan of high school football you should have enjoyed thos game only thing was as a Bobcat fan would have been sweeter was 7-6 win but it didnt happen Congrats to SC we enjoyed watching your athletes compete against the Bobcats i do believe you will go far in play-offs but in end Bobcats will be in Bowling Green JMO.Go Bobcats!!!

[charlie22]

EKU, I understand its a safety issue, but what about a ref warning a player to buckle his chin strap and they player never listens. Ive seen it tons of times where a player on more than one or two occasion didnt have their mouth peices in. Its a very rare call. Most time you will see the ref just say something to the player about putting it in, but I have never ever once in the games I have seen, a ref throw a flag for a mouth peice not being in.

Highlands was penalized in 06 for a player only having one of his two chin strap buckles snapped. According to the player, he received no warning. Sounded fishy, then again we were playing an Ohio team with Ohio refs at the time. :biggrin:

[ckns]

I have to say this is just one game.
Im pretty breathitt could've done better.
Im sure that the bobcats will still domate this year.
Just because they one once to the biggest team in 3A still dont mean that much, but Sheldon done a great job.
GO BOBCATS!

And it was a penalty game because channing fugate was called for a mouthpeice when the ref was standing 15 yards behind him and they didnt call it until they scored the touchdown

[easyM]

I have to say this is just one game.
Im pretty breathitt could've done better.
Im sure that the bobcats will still domate this year.
Just because they one once to the biggest team in 3A still dont mean that much, but Sheldon done a great job.
GO BOBCATS!

And it was a penalty game because channing fugate was called for a mouthpeice when the ref was standing 15 yards behind him and they didnt call it until they scored the touchdown

It was a penalty game? Are you saying that penalty beat Breathitt?
Did SC have any turnovers? Did they have penalties called on them? Did they not execute on certain plays such as missing blocks, not going through the right hole, dropping passes, missing tackles? I'm just curious what all happened. Does anyone have stats to show on this game?

[Poseidon]

It was a penalty game? Are you saying that penalty beat Breathitt?
Did SC have any turnovers? Did they have penalties called on them? Did they not execute on certain plays such as missing blocks, not going through the right hole, dropping passes, missing tackles? I'm just curious what all happened. Does anyone have stats to show on this game?

Breathitt beat Breathitt, and SC played the game they needed to play to pull off the upset. People want to react to this as it were a normal game, but it was an upset and more times than not, the Bobcats would catch the balls that they missed and this game would not even be talked about anymore. penalties played a small factor, but poor execution by the Bobcats played the biggest role IMO.

[EKUAlum05]

Breathitt beat Breathitt, and SC played the game they needed to play to pull off the upset. People want to react to this as it were a normal game, but it was an upset and more times than not, the Bobcats would catch the balls that they missed and this game would not even be talked about anymore. penalties played a small factor, but poor execution by the Bobcats played the biggest role IMO.

:HitWall:

Poor execution does not get you shut out if you are the dominant team as Breathitt fans continually suggest. The Sheldon Clark defense shut down Breathitt. Drops and penalties happen every game.

It is making me sick to my stomach to defend SC, but the fact remains that most Breathitt people view this as being an Act of God that SC won and that Breathitt is still on another level than them.. I continue to say that arguement does not hold water. Breathitt County may very well beat them if they play again, in fact I would predict Breathitt to win, but people have got to give SC the respect they earned.

If I were to proclaim that last year Breathitt would only beat Belfry "1 out of 10 times and that one time was the Semi's", or if I were to say that "Belfry was hands down the best team in the mountain's in 3A last year", or that "Breathitt didn't beat Belfry, Belfry beat themselves". I would have the entire town of Jackson descend upon me. Those examples are every bit as true as what numerous Breathitt fans are trying to put this game off as.

[easyM]

Breathitt beat Breathitt, and SC played the game they needed to play to pull off the upset. People want to react to this as it were a normal game, but it was an upset and more times than not, the Bobcats would catch the balls that they missed and this game would not even be talked about anymore. penalties played a small factor, but poor execution by the Bobcats played the biggest role IMO.

Execution is not only passing the ball and not catching it. If you can't run consistently against a team that lack of execution might be due to poor blocking by o line or poor running by the backfield. But, was SC defense not part of the reason Breathitt could not run the ball? If Breathitt had to throw the ball quite a bit that tells me that SC defense was taking over the game. Somewhere in this you have to see that SC won the game. I'm not sold on the fact that Breathitt won it for SC. How many yards on the ground did Breathitt have?

[King Leonidas]

Sheldon Clark played a very good overall game and it all started up front. SC deserved to win the game the way Breathitt Played. Do I think they are the better team NO, but they showed up to play and that is what happens in High School football, it is whoever shows up. Breathitt read to many newspaper clippings and thought they could just walk on the field and win. We had holes to hit but our play makers just didn't make plays. Congrats to SC. That game is over now and i hope we meet them again but I am excitied to see who shows up this friday!!! BREATHITT a team that plays with HEART and EXCITEMENT or that team last friday.

[Estaban Esteves]

Congrats cards! You played with alot of emotion! Take that kind of mindset to pond creek! so your road doesn't end at belfry once again?

[Poseidon]

Execution is not only passing the ball and not catching it. If you can't run consistently against a team that lack of execution might be due to poor blocking by o line or poor running by the backfield. But, was SC defense not part of the reason Breathitt could not run the ball? If Breathitt had to throw the ball quite a bit that tells me that SC defense was taking over the game. Somewhere in this you have to see that SC won the game. I'm not sold on the fact that Breathitt won it for SC. How many yards on the ground did Breathitt have?

You are correct on some points and not on others IMO. Execution in all aspects of the game were missing with Breathitt against SC. Give SC credit for causing the "lack of execution" but you have to admit that even as bad as Breathitt played, they still had the opportunities to win that game with even one of the many dropped passes and dropped passes are no ones fault but the offensive team, especially when they are wide open.

[Cardinalfootballguy]

I just watched film on the game and fugate never got the touch down he was stopped at the 1 yard line.

[easyM]

You are correct on some points and not on others IMO. Execution in all aspects of the game were missing with Breathitt against SC. Give SC credit for causing the "lack of execution" but you have to admit that even as bad as Breathitt played, they still had the opportunities to win that game with even one of the many dropped passes and dropped passes are no ones fault but the offensive team, especially when they are wide open.

I've said it on here before and I'll say it again, I don't know who has the better team between the two. All I have to go on is the end of game results. Dropping passes is the offenses fault but I look at it like this too. SC forced them into throwing the ball. When you Fugate held to five yards carrying that speaks in volume. I'm sure a play here or a play there could have changed the end result. But, how many times in a year do you think that happens? Anyone who has lost close games can think of many things that may have attributed to their loss. It happens. But, you have to give SC all the credit in the world. You shut someone the calibur of Breathitt out you have done one outstanding job. Did SC hurt themselves at all? Were the mistake prone as well? I wish I could see the stats on here. If someone has them I wish they would post it for me to see. Last thing, these two teams will hopefully meet up again. I think they will. When they do it should be one heck of a game. Good luck to both teams.

[Poseidon]

I've said it on here before and I'll say it again, I don't know who has the better team between the two. All I have to go on is the end of game results. Dropping passes is the offenses fault but I look at it like this too. SC forced them into throwing the ball. When you Fugate held to five yards carrying that speaks in volume. I'm sure a play here or a play there could have changed the end result. But, how many times in a year do you think that happens? Anyone who has lost close games can think of many things that may have attributed to their loss. It happens. But, you have to give SC all the credit in the world. You shut someone the calibur of Breathitt out you have done one outstanding job. Did SC hurt themselves at all? Were the mistake prone as well? I wish I could see the stats on here. If someone has them I wish they would post it for me to see. Last thing, these two teams will hopefully meet up again. I think they will. When they do it should be one heck of a game. Good luck to both teams.

I totally agree with you SC made Breathitt pass the ball by totally dominating upfront. No denying that here. But it was obvious that Breathitt can win without an effective running game if they can just catch the ball. Most of the drops SC had nothing to do with. I am not trying to take anything away from the SC team, just stating that this was an upset, kinda like a UK beating Georgia or something, not the norm. The result was a "fluke" IMO. That being said, Breathitt is not as good as hyped........More hype than substance.

[easyM]

I totally agree with you SC made Breathitt pass the ball by totally dominating upfront. No denying that here. But it was obvious that Breathitt can win without an effective running game if they can just catch the ball. Most of the drops SC had nothing to do with. I am not trying to take anything away from the SC team, just stating that this was an upset, kinda like a UK beating Georgia or something, not the norm.

I wouldn't argue it being an upset. I just can't agree with people trying to say breathitt should be ranked over sc at this time. You know that's not fair. If it was the other way around no way would you agree with that.
I do have one comment about the statement with passing the ball. In high school, especially in this area, if you can't run on a team you're in trouble. All of your good teams have excellent running games. I know if I'm the coach and my opponent throws the ball quite a bit in the game my defense has played awful well. I say this because you made them throw it. You shut down the run in high school you can beat many teams. I think Breathitt will get on track and start winning the games they're supposed to win. I just hope they're not coming up with a thousand excuses of why they lost. They'll be a better team this friday night if they know this week they got beat straight up with no excuses. That's what will make them better. Excuses makes you weaker.

[Poseidon]

I wouldn't argue it being an upset. I just can't agree with people trying to say breathitt should be ranked over sc at this time. You know that's not fair. If it was the other way around no way would you agree with that.
I do have one comment about the statement with passing the ball. In high school, especially in this area, if you can't run on a team you're in trouble. All of your good teams have excellent running games. I know if I'm the coach and my opponent throws the ball quite a bit in the game my defense has played awful well. I say this because you made them throw it. You shut down the run in high school you can beat many teams. I think Breathitt will get on track and start winning the games they're supposed to win. I just hope they're not coming up with a thousand excuses of why they lost. They'll be a better team this friday night if they know this week they got beat straight up with no excuses. That's what will make them better. Excuses makes you weaker.

You know as well as I that rankings mean nothing. If SC is ahead of BHS, good, no big deal. But if UK who is ranked 25 beats a Georgia team that is ranked 5 by 1 score, should UK move ahead of Georgia in the polls? I respect you opinions and am in no way trying to say you are wrong and I am right....We just have differing opinions.

Breathitt wants to throw the ball if they have to, and everyone knows that. Breathitt does not shy away from throwing the ball as many mountain schools do. If BHS can not execute a simple pass and catch they do not deserve to win, and they did not. All I am saying is that Breathitt missed wide open shots all night and that simply doing what Breathitt is usually good at would have been good enough, run game or not, to beat this SC team.

[Matman]

I just watched film on the game and fugate never got the touch down he was stopped at the 1 yard line.

I was standing down there by the endzone. He deffinately did not get in.

[BobcatStuckInPowell]

I was standing down there by the endzone. He deffinately did not get in.

It was Jade on the TD that was called back but they called the penalty on Channing.

[Tanner Tackett #35]

Major Upset. BUT i think Channing will bounce back for the next game. I played against him last year and i must say hes a very good player. Im not sure how he got held to 5 years. Actually i think thats nearly impossible. He had to be sick or something.

[beasy_bo]

does anyone on here think that maybe hager knew breathitt's WRs can't catch?:eek: this is suppose to be one of SC best teams ever and to continously say that breathitt is better and this and that. how about you guys got beat and face it. SC had drives stop on penalties too. here is just one thing to think of SHELDON CLARK IS BETTER THAN BREATHITT COUNTY!!!!

[OrangenowBlue]

I never thought I would say this but sounds like Coach Holcomb made some poor coaching decisions against Sheldon Clark

[beasy_bo]

I never thought I would say this but sounds like Coach Holcomb made some poor coaching decisions against Sheldon Clark

why is that

[Poseidon]

I never thought I would say this but sounds like Coach Holcomb made some poor coaching decisions against Sheldon Clark

The coach can not catch the ball for the kids, nor block for them.

[OrangenowBlue]

The coach can not catch the ball for the kids, nor block for them.

How many times did Channing Fugate carry the football.

[Cardinalfootballguy]

How many times did Channing Fugate carry the football.

4 or 5 times

[OrangenowBlue]

Unless he was injured, wouldn't you think he would have gotten a lot more carries then that.

[Poseidon]

Unless he was injured, wouldn't you think he would have gotten a lot more carries then that.

It does not make a lot of sense him only carrying the ball 4-5 times when he is the best athlete on the field. How many touches did he have? SC earned this win, kudos to them.

[Cardinalfootballguy]

Unless he was injured, wouldn't you think he would have gotten a lot more carries then that.

Breathitt was limited in possessions as Sc played the ground game and ate the clock

[atlanta]

Awesome-good for Ky. mountain football!