[bucslover68]

If I could make it to games I wouldn't need the paper or the radio. It's just that when u got the same three games on 15 different channels it's a little upsetting. The nite pike central beat sc I coulndnt pick it up. But I could listen to sf and ac I think. And we all know that pikeville will be on 103.1 and belfry will be on 96.5 and prestonsburg has 95.5 covered regardless of who they are playing. The best idea anyone has had is putting 93.1 up for going back and forth. Kudos to whoever thought about that. 107.5 don't carry ball games and that's cool. But then u got all these smaller stations who carry some of the smaller teams. So when I can't listen I'd like to be able to read about it and see that the community does care about the other pike county team but once again NASCAR and the big two get all the coverage

I understand the frustration, believe me. However, if you look at the PC situation objectively, they are just now deserving what I would call, "every game" coverage. The product has not really lived up to having every game broadcast. Even this season has not been beautiful until this last run. However, you take it for what it is. They are rolling right now and have a great shot this Friday night. I have went over myself and covered SC/PC. Joe Kinzer and I went over there in '07 because Belfry had played Magoffin on Thursday night. We were both sicker than dogs, but we wanted to do the game. It was at SC. I agree, it would have been nice to have SC and PC on the air, but the numbers game won out. I think all the PC folks should enjoy where they are at, and maybe if the success continues, then the coverage of their games will be expanded.

[bucslover68]

Local businessess buy advertising in order for us to broadcast the games. I am sure there will be a good group of sponsors from the Pikeville/Pike County area and also from Martin County for Friday night's game.

[phs1986]

Exactly.

I was NOT implying that EKB didn't do their job... WHAT I was trying to get across is with the right kind of backing, PC would NOT have to rely on ANE to support/and or/give media coverage to their program or kids. EKB does a GREAT job (although, bucslover is now on a STRICT calorie count) and I bet they would find a way to broadcast IF the financial backing came in, in support of the program....

IF you all think ANE is bad though... pick up a WDN... Belfry is about 3 minutes down the road, you can send the information in, and there is still no coverage what so ever! That newspaper flat out sucks!!! I do think the medical leader gives PC their due as they do other teams in the county.

[15thRegionSlamaBamma]

Folks you need a dose of reality. Not every team, in a 6 school county, will have every game covered. Until this year, only Belfry and Pikeville, out of the Pike County schools, had every game covered. The reasons for those two are obvious. Belfry is a state championship/state contending program and has one of the largest followings anywhere. EKB has always carried Pikeville High School sports for decades. Only this year did SV get all their games carried. Last year, they were in the same boat with the other schools. Fans should be happy that there is as much coverage as there is. None of the announcers is making a killing doing these games. If i didn't get paid, I would still do them. We do this out of love for the sport and because there are a lot of people who have to work or are sick or just can't make it to the games that love to listern to high school sports. I think it is sad that folks finally have some success in football and then they complain because there is not enough attention to their school. Enjoy the ride and we will be there to cover it. I think we need a poll to determine how many of the fans complaining actually have gone to all the games this year or to Mason County last Friday night.

Bucs my only complaint is this I think you can agree to this when reading my post. The problem I have is when a kid has an outstanding game such as Aaron against Fleming and it not being mentioned...You basically said that since the game was not covered by EKB that it is up to the fans to relay that information...Even though as a communications major I know that it is up to the radio station, tv station or newspaper journalist to do the research for themselves, or maybe that is my own biased view...I think its stupied that Chapman turns EKB down for interviews however, that is not his persona to do interviews, as I said many ppl in the media field have issues with the way he carries him self with the media which is factul from what I have been told...

[NEXT]

Worry about the GAME, not the dang media...........don't get your own kids off on some stupid sidetrack..........

I'm sure Coach Chapman would say the same.

[crazytaxidriver]

I understand the frustration, believe me. However, if you look at the PC situation objectively, they are just now deserving what I would call, "every game" coverage. The product has not really lived up to having every game broadcast. Even this season has not been beautiful until this last run. However, you take it for what it is. They are rolling right now and have a great shot this Friday night. I have went over myself and covered SC/PC. Joe Kinzer and I went over there in '07 because Belfry had played Magoffin on Thursday night. We were both sicker than dogs, but we wanted to do the game. It was at SC. I agree, it would have been nice to have SC and PC on the air, but the numbers game won out. I think all the PC folks should enjoy where they are at, and maybe if the success continues, then the coverage of their games will be expanded.

I can agree with u. They haven't been overly successful in the past. But there have been games they played that had more significance than so e that have gotten the air time. My biggest complaint was that since I didn't get to hear iti would at least have liked to get to read about it

[15thRegionSlamaBamma]

Worry about the GAME, not the dang media...........don't get your own kids off on some stupid sidetrack..........

I'm sure Coach Chapman would say the same.

im sure he would conidering he refuses to do small interviews with the media..such as the preseason talk show or a 5 min interview with the intermountain cable bunch,,,

[NEXT]

im sure he would conidering he refuses to do small interviews with the media..such as the preseason talk show or a 5 min interview with the intermountain cable bunch,,,

Who gives a crap......I mean really the guy, in his 1st year, has PCC playing in a Region Championship game.


Coaches coach, parents worry about media............

[crazytaxidriver]

Who gives a crap......I mean really the guy, in his 1st year, has PCC playing in a Region Championship game.


Coaches coach, parents worry about media............

This being said by someone who has never had to worry about missing a game because it wasn't on the radio.

I'm not saying I want the media to stop what they r doing and cover the teams I want to hear about, but the recognition some teams get is almost nonexistant.

[bucslover68]

Bucs my only complaint is this I think you can agree to this when reading my post. The problem I have is when a kid has an outstanding game such as Aaron against Fleming and it not being mentioned...You basically said that since the game was not covered by EKB that it is up to the fans to relay that information...Even though as a communications major I know that it is up to the radio station, tv station or newspaper journalist to do the research for themselves, or maybe that is my own biased view...I think its stupied that Chapman turns EKB down for interviews however, that is not his persona to do interviews, as I said many ppl in the media field have issues with the way he carries him self with the media which is factul from what I have been told...

I think you are right. I can only speak for myself. Sometimes the only stats I know are from the team I cover, which is Belfry. I tend to rely on KHSAA for some of the stats I get and we all know that Chapman doesn't turn them in. Some of our guys work full-time at the station. Some of us do not. If i have a crazy day at my job, which most are, I sometimes do not have the time to research some of the kids, and how they did in the previous game, before our show. I agree that we should all try to be dilligent in gathering this information, but to be honest, I just browse through the local paper, and I rarely read an article in depth, unless it is one of Rick Bentley's personal articles that he is so good at. A lot of the info and feedback we get comes from BGR and word of mouth. In the future, I will try my best to get as much information as I can about such great performances, and if some people on here could pm me if a kid has a great night, and somehow we don't know about it, that would be appreciated. I do believe McGuire and some of those kids have been overlooked, and maybe all this success they are having will turn that around. I will do my part in seeing that happens.

[bucslover68]

I can agree with u. They haven't been overly successful in the past. But there have been games they played that had more significance than so e that have gotten the air time. My biggest complaint was that since I didn't get to hear iti would at least have liked to get to read about it

You are right brother. If I could get to more than one game on a Friday night I sure would. I would love to see Corbin and Prestonsburg battle it out this week, but I will more excited to be at the PC/SC game. I think all this, mostly civil, talk will help in making sure all these kids get the appropriate attention.

[15thRegionSlamaBamma]

I think you are right. I can only speak for myself. Sometimes the only stats I know are from the team I cover, which is Belfry. I tend to rely on KHSAA for some of the stats I get and we all know that Chapman doesn't turn them in. Some of our guys work full-time at the station. Some of us do not. If i have a crazy day at my job, which most are, I sometimes do not have the time to research some of the kids, and how they did in the previous game, before our show. I agree that we should all try to be dilligent in gathering this information, but to be honest, I just browse through the local paper, and I rarely read an article in depth, unless it is one of Rick Bentley's personal articles that he is so good at. A lot of the info and feedback we get comes from BGR and word of mouth. In the future, I will try my best to get as much information as I can about such great performances, and if some people on here could pm me if a kid has a great night, and somehow we don't know about it, that would be appreciated. I do believe McGuire and some of those kids have been overlooked, and maybe all this success they are having will turn that around. I will do my part in seeing that happens.

Well I want to apologize if any of you at the station took my remark as a slap in the face because it is not that at all. For the most part I have stated the lack of coverage is Chapmans fault for distancing him self from the media and at first local community but he has now opened his arms to the community just not the media yet. Also I think alot of the complaint comes from this is that the particular game was once of the highest scoring games in first round playoff history and as a communications major if i have a game that some 160+ points were scored in a football game i am going to dig everywhere to get some stats to figure out what I can. THat is really the point I was trying to make. Now I do agree you all are bared with some hard ways to get information and such and it is also hard when you dont have many full time people. Keep up the good work though you all put on some good broadcasts. And just so everyone knows I not once stated nor inteded any of my posts to be taken that they do not cover Pike Central well that being EKB. Because they infact have been the only local news source who has focused on PC sports.

[rawlingsfan]

Why in the world would a coach decline to be involved in media day and such? To me, this speaks that he isn't interested in having his young men covered. I know during baseball PC got a lot of coverage as they are usually a decent team and produce rather well. Good luck PC and I hope for some that the news-express covers them as they wish to be covered!

I think Coach Chapman is concerned more with the TEAM than the individuals on the team. Many times first time success of programs and individuals leads to more pressure, conceit, and envy. Let the man coach, if they had left him alone at Pikeville he would have already won a handful of regional and state championships. Just look at how far Breathitt Co. fell after he left the first time, then he returns they win another state championship in '02, were state runner-up last year.

What's wrong with rewarding and acknowledging your players at the end of the year banquet... keeping them focused and away from the media as much as possible until then? Anyone that needs information on them is just jumping on the bandwagon anyways. Pay your $5 and watch them play Friday night.

[NEXT]

This being said by someone who has never had to worry about missing a game because it wasn't on the radio.

I'm not saying I want the media to stop what they r doing and cover the teams I want to hear about, but the recognition some teams get is almost nonexistant.

I didn't get to hear PCC's game Friday either, you might want to check and see where I teach and coach at now before you say that..............

[KYWVUFAN]

I've read the comments about Coach Chapman and the media and my impression is that Coach Chapman is not one that wants to take credit realizing that it is the young men playing their hearts out - as they did at Mason County - who deserve the credit. Perhaps after Pike Central wins the Regional Championship, he will have something to say.

Go Hawks!

[Big Five-0-]

If I could make it to games I wouldn't need the paper or the radio. It's just that when u got the same three games on 15 different channels it's a little upsetting. The nite pike central beat sc I coulndnt pick it up. But I could listen to sf and ac I think. And we all know that pikeville will be on 103.1 and belfry will be on 96.5 and prestonsburg has 95.5 covered regardless of who they are playing. The best idea anyone has had is putting 93.1 up for going back and forth. Kudos to whoever thought about that. 107.5 don't carry ball games and that's cool. But then u got all these smaller stations who carry some of the smaller teams. So when I can't listen I'd like to be able to read about it and see that the community does care about the other pike county team but once again NASCAR and the big two get all the coverage

Just one correction before we move on. 12.40 A.M carried Pikeville football 103.1 aired S.V. football. Bucks Lover 68 should know that.

[bucslover68]

Just one correction before we move on. 12.40 A.M carried Pikeville football 103.1 aired S.V. football. Bucks Lover 68 should know that.

I did. I just didn't feel like correcting anyone. I had to broadcast for 5 years with Joe Kinzer, and I used up my quota of corrections a long time ago. Love ya Big Joe.:biggrin:

[phs1986]

From information that I have received today, News-Express was supposed to get coverage for this game via internet from the Mason affiliates.... The internet was down at the paper therefore, the coverage they received is what they could gather from other sources. IMHO, if this is the case then PC was done an injustice by the "internet provider" not News-Express!!

[clueless]

Catch the Pike Central vs Sheldon Clark live via WYMT Friday night......

[crazytaxidriver]

I didn't get to hear PCC's game Friday either, you might want to check and see where I teach and coach at now before you say that..............

i really am sorry if i got it wrong..but unless there is another poster on here named NEXT, then i was pretty sure you were a belfry fan..

[phs1986]

i really am sorry if i got it wrong..but unless there is another poster on here named NEXT, then i was pretty sure you were a belfry fan..

LOLOL..... I was gonna post a good one to ya CTD but I'll let NEXT handle this!! HAHAHA....

[15thRegionSlamaBamma]

Who gives a crap......I mean really the guy, in his 1st year, has PCC playing in a Region Championship game.


Coaches coach, parents worry about media............

I dont care but I am shedding some light on one reason the media does not or can not cover Pike Central very well...It is not the fans place to give pertant information to the media...As you stated the coaches coach and part of their duties as a coach is to inform the media of players and or his/her team...As a student in broadcasting and journalism I would never go and ask a fan so how is this kid looking to pan out this season, that is not how it works sorry if you thought it was different but its not...When people read a newspaper will they take a fans quote on a player over a coaches certainly not...As far as stats go being produced to the media that is the coaches and/or AD's duty or the scorekeepers pending on which school we are speaking of and it is also the duty of the media to seek that information...In the past thee EKB have seeked that information and have been denied thus after you do this 3 or 4 times you as a person tend to think well every time I ask im denied so whats the point anymore I will wait for them to come to me...As of now I think that may be the mindset not sure but it could be and if so I dont really blame them for that but nor do I blame chapman for wanting to only focus on the task at hand...But once again it is not a fans duty to do a coaches or school admins job unless appointed that position by the boosters...

[crazytaxidriver]

LOLOL..... I was gonna post a good one to ya CTD but I'll let NEXT handle this!! HAHAHA....

Guess I should send him a pm and explain myself lol

[jammin' jamey]

I dont care but I am shedding some light on one reason the media does not or can not cover Pike Central very well...It is not the fans place to give pertant information to the media...As you stated the coaches coach and part of their duties as a coach is to inform the media of players and or his/her team...As a student in broadcasting and journalism I would never go and ask a fan so how is this kid looking to pan out this season, that is not how it works sorry if you thought it was different but its not...When people read a newspaper will they take a fans quote on a player over a coaches certainly not...As far as stats go being produced to the media that is the coaches and/or AD's duty or the scorekeepers pending on which school we are speaking of and it is also the duty of the media to seek that information...In the past thee EKB have seeked that information and have been denied thus after you do this 3 or 4 times you as a person tend to think well every time I ask im denied so whats the point anymore I will wait for them to come to me...As of now I think that may be the mindset not sure but it could be and if so I dont really blame them for that but nor do I blame chapman for wanting to only focus on the task at hand...But once again it is not a fans duty to do a coaches or school admins job unless appointed that position by the boosters...

I hope you were listening to the radio tonight. If not, here's a recap:

EKB has simply not provided every single game coverage of Pike Central because it takes community sponsorship dollars. We're not asking for thousands and if you listen, many small business sponsor high school sports year after year. EKB's choice of not covering every single regular season game or the first two playoff games has nothing to do with coach John Chapman either. Coach Chapman has been invited to the station for preseason interviews, has been asked to give interviews prior to games (including this Friday's) and has refused - guess what, that's fine and it's his decision. That is not going to deter our stations from covering their games or Pike Central sports.

15thslamma: You are incorrect when you believe we think, "every time I ask im denied so whats the point anymore I will wait for them to come to me..." I will say this though, it would be nice to have stats and individual player highlights that have been the subject of this thread given to us from officials with the school so we could have verification and give recognition. You can't seek the information when there's no place to get it officially.

Also 15thslamma, sometimes the best sources to find info on football teams and players are from fans that follow them. They're at every game and are passionate for their team.

I had sent this explaination to someone else in this thread in a private message and originally didn't want to post this publicly, but with the way this thread has gone, someone needed to provide a different point-of-view. Just a side note: EKB sports has covered at least 1 football game of every single football team in Pike, Floyd, Johnson, Martin, Magoffin and Letcher County this year and we have tried to give a variety of different games on dial and hopefully we'll be able to do even more in the future to promote the youth/community/schools

With that said, good luck to Pike Central this week.

[Salimander]

I hope you were listening to the radio tonight. If not, here's a recap:

EKB has simply not provided every single game coverage of Pike Central because it takes community sponsorship dollars. We're not asking for thousands and if you listen, many small business sponsor high school sports year after year. EKB's choice of not covering every single regular season game or the first two playoff games has nothing to do with coach John Chapman either. Coach Chapman has been invited to the station for preseason interviews, has been asked to give interviews prior to games (including this Friday's) and has refused - guess what, that's fine and it's his decision. That is not going to deter our stations from covering their games or Pike Central sports.

15thslamma: You are incorrect when you believe we think, "every time I ask im denied so whats the point anymore I will wait for them to come to me..." I will say this though, it would be nice to have stats and individual player highlights that have been the subject of this thread given to us from officials with the school so we could have verification and give recognition. You can't seek the information when there's no place to get it officially.

Also 15thslamma, sometimes the best sources to find info on football teams and players are from fans that follow them. They're at every game and are passionate for their team.

I had sent this explaination to someone else in this thread in a private message and originally didn't want to post this publicly, but with the way this thread has gone, someone needed to provide a different point-of-view. Just a side note: EKB sports has covered at least 1 football game of every single football team in Pike, Floyd, Johnson, Martin, Magoffin and Letcher County this year and we have tried to give a variety of different games on dial and hopefully we'll be able to do even more in the future to promote the youth/community/schools

With that said, good luck to Pike Central this week.

Here's the media deal in a nutshell. Why should a local paper be getting info from other sources instead of being there in person? Why don't they get their butts in a car and travel to the playoff game being played by a Pike County team or hire some playoff "help" to get it covered! Rick Bentley, used to do that, so did Terry Spears, David Mulliken, John Bastolla, Brad Lockard and yes even Tom Kopacz. They made sure someone was there to get it and get it right. The problem is the paper doesn't value the sports programs in the county enough anymore to cover them effectively. Sadly, our communities have laid back and let it happen. When we stop buying that cheap excuse for a "day old news" newspaper then things could change. Probably why their paper is sinking and revenue is down.
As for radio, here's my take. EKB has more stations than there are high schools in Pike County. You are telling me that EKB can't sell spots for a team on each station. That's bull. EKB doesn't put an emphasis on sports as they did in the past. That's not a sports directors fault. It starts at the top or near the top (i.e. used to be on SportsOvertime) 10 years ago Brian Crager had a team at every playoff game and mainly because he was allowed to do soand it was important to do that for the kids. Okay, if more teams are making the playoffs then grow the radio teams. The money is no good but people would do it. And quit harping on Chapman not talking or giving interviews. What coach ever says anything other than "We just try to get better each week".... anyway. Maybe some coaches could take a lesson and talk lesson and let their players performance do the talking on the field. Is it about the coaches or the players? And as far as player stats, that wouldn't be a problem at this point in the season if a radio station covered every game or the newspaper covered every game in person. It could all change if the paper and radio wanted it to change and maybe people are starting to get fed up with it. I hope so.

[bucslover68]

Here's the media deal in a nutshell. Why should a local paper be getting info from other sources instead of being there in person? Why don't they get their butts in a car and travel to the playoff game being played by a Pike County team or hire some playoff "help" to get it covered! Rick Bentley, used to do that, so did Terry Spears, David Mulliken, John Bastolla, Brad Lockard and yes even Tom Kopacz. They made sure someone was there to get it and get it right. The problem is the paper doesn't value the sports programs in the county enough anymore to cover them effectively. Sadly, our communities have laid back and let it happen. When we stop buying that cheap excuse for a "day old news" newspaper then things could change. Probably why their paper is sinking and revenue is down.
As for radio, here's my take. EKB has more stations than there are high schools in Pike County. You are telling me that EKB can't sell spots for a team on each station. That's bull. EKB doesn't put an emphasis on sports as they did in the past. That's not a sports directors fault. It starts at the top or near the top (i.e. used to be on SportsOvertime) 10 years ago Brian Crager had a team at every playoff game and mainly because he was allowed to do soand it was important to do that for the kids. Okay, if more teams are making the playoffs then grow the radio teams. The money is no good but people would do it. And quit harping on Chapman not talking or giving interviews. What coach ever says anything other than "We just try to get better each week".... anyway. Maybe some coaches could take a lesson and talk lesson and let their players performance do the talking on the field. Is it about the coaches or the players? And as far as player stats, that wouldn't be a problem at this point in the season if a radio station covered every game or the newspaper covered every game in person. It could all change if the paper and radio wanted it to change and maybe people are starting to get fed up with it. I hope so.

Let's focus on the actual facts. I have worked for EKB for a long time. I am starting my 18th sports season. Bryan Crager is one of my best friends. I started working for him in August of 1992. We did many fewer games back then than we do now. Pikeville was the only team who got all their games covered when I started. They were on 103.1 or AM 1240.The only other high school games we did for many years was a "county" game of the week on 93.1. Many times these games involved Belfry, because they had some high profile matchups. During the other weeks we would cover the other county schools. The year that Dusty Hall and SV started 9-0, we covered a lot of their games. I remember they beat Pburg that year, but they closed out the season with losses to Belfry and Leslie County in the playoffs. Only until Belfry went on their championship run did they get all their games broadcast. I doubt if anyone would argue that they have been the premier program in the county and should have all of their games broadcast. I personally have broadcast 63 straight Belfry games and 67 out of their last 69. So, until this year, you basically had 3 EKB crews out on Friday nights You had the Pikeville crew, our Belfry crew, and a "county" crew that rotated between SV, PC, ER, and Phelps. In the old days you would have Pikeville's crew and the county crew. Crager use to definitely try to get the playoff games on, but many times you wouldn't cover SV or PC because they were a 4 seed and would get blasted in the first round. One year, Phillip Birchfield and myself left Pikeville late and went down to Williamsburg to cover Elkhorn City. We arrived as they were singing the national anthem. This year EKB has consistently covered 4 games a week. Belfry on 96.5, Pikeville on The Oldies Network, SV on 103.1, and the Floyd County Game of the Week on the Talk Radio Network. This leaves 93.1 which has been the flagship host of the "Red Zone", and ZRock 107.5. 4 crews is very hard to fill with at least two announcers and Pikeville has 3 announcers. EKB covers more sports than any other small-town network, imo. UK football and basketball, local high school sports, Pikeville College football and basketball, NASCAR, the REDS, and Marshall University football and basketball. I may have missed a couple of things, but this does not include the stand alone games like the Pike County Middle School Championship. Plus we have the Sports Guys show. This has only been on a few years. We did use to do a recap show on Saturday mornings down at Lowe's Sporting Goods when Paul Blackburn ran the place. EKB does not have to apologize for any coverage it gives.

[Belfry Wins]

I personally no most of the people who cover sports for EKB and the News-Express and I think you couldn't find better people at either the radio or the paper, and they all seem to be pretty good friends.
I challenge you to listen to another broadcast from the area or read another sports page in the area and I bet you don't find no better. Pike County is blessed with wonderful coverage, from EKB, the News-Express, The Medical Leader and WYMT. All of those guys do a good job IMO. So I give each of you a thumbs up and say thanks for the coverage because I've been in other areas and you all do an excellent job.

[jammin' jamey]

Okay, if more teams are making the playoffs then grow the radio teams. The money is no good but people would do it.

Growing the radio teams and selling the dollars which create growth are not as easy as it sounds given the local economy. None of us do it for the money, but it's nice to break even to pay the bills.

[oldtimer3]

There was a big crowd at the Mason County game from what I hear. I am sure that they didn't go in the hole, like some of the local teams are doing in the playoffs this year.

[oldtimer3]

I wish I could agree with you, on WYMT especially.