[bad hop]

Don't know the score, but I heared that Scott Little had 16 K's in 5 innings. I guess they had a third strike passed ball. Good game Rebels.

[StrikeoutKing]

Would that be a perfect game or a no-hitter?

[Tailback44]

how could he have 16 Ks in 5innings when you can only get 15 outs in 5innings lol

[Tailback44]

But congrats to little and AC

[The Blue Blur]

how could he have 16 Ks in 5innings when you can only get 15 outs in 5innings lol

That's the typical AC, stat boosting. Not sure why they didn't pitch him against Paintsville yesterday, but I'd like to seen that one.

[StrikeoutKing]

That's the typical AC, stat boosting. Not sure why they didn't pitch him against Paintsville yesterday, but I'd like to seen that one.

Same here, Blue Blur.

[Pacman]

That's the typical AC, stat boosting. Not sure why they didn't pitch him against Paintsville yesterday, but I'd like to seen that one.

It's very easily done when you strike out a batter on a pass ball, thus having to get 4 outs in one inning. You know, when the runner reaches first safely but it still counts as a K in the stat book. It ain't rocket science. Also, why would AC wanna throw Little against Paintsville and let them get a look at him before region? Why would a young team wanna give up the biggest weapon they have before it counted for anything? I'd imagine the Tigers would see him when it counts -- that is if the Tigers are there.

[Tubby Hater]

It's very easily done when you strike out a batter on a pass ball, thus having to get 4 outs in one inning. You know, when the runner reaches first safely but it still counts as a K in the stat book. It ain't rocket science. Also, why would AC wanna throw Little against Paintsville and let them get a look at him before region? Why would a young team wanna give up the biggest weapon they have before it counted for anything? I'd imagine the Tigers would see him when it counts -- that is if the Tigers are there.

I understand why you didnt throw Little against Pville but your other statement about Pville will see them if they are, well you have to make it as well. With a young team like you have anything can happen and just remember you are one injury away from being on the same level as the other 3 teams. I dont see AC getting beat in the district but remember its tourney time and anything could happen. In 03 when AC won the region they had to go extra innings to get out of the 1st round of District against the 4th seeded Blackcats. I'd like to see AC make a good run this year but dont get over confident PacMan

[StrikeoutKing]

I understand why you didnt throw Little against Pville but your other statement about Pville will see them if they are, well you have to make it as well. With a young team like you have anything can happen and just remember you are one injury away from being on the same level as the other 3 teams. I dont see AC getting beat in the district but remember its tourney time and anything could happen. In 03 when AC won the region they had to go extra innings to get out of the 1st round of District against the 4th seeded Blackcats. I'd like to see AC make a good run this year but dont get over confident PacMan

That Prestonsburg game in '03 was awesome! What about East Ridge taking the Top 10 Sheldon Clark Cardinals into 14 innings, and then the "Cinderella" Rebels knock off S.C. in the semi-finals? We remember a few years ago South Floyd beating #1 seeded Betsy Layne in the first round of districts. Anything can happen...ANYTHING!

[Mr.Kimball]

It's very easily done when you strike out a batter on a pass ball, thus having to get 4 outs in one inning. You know, when the runner reaches first safely but it still counts as a K in the stat book. It ain't rocket science. Also, why would AC wanna throw Little against Paintsville and let them get a look at him before region? Why would a young team wanna give up the biggest weapon they have before it counted for anything? I'd imagine the Tigers would see him when it counts -- that is if the Tigers are there.

It can also work in reverse. If Little is going to consistantly throw against some of the worst teams in the state of Kentucky, it can also make him feel a false feeling of invincibility. Probably wouldn't hurt him or Allen Central either for that matter to have thrown against Paintsville just to get a feel for Little to see just exactly where he stacked up against a quality hitting team.

Who knows why Allen Central coaches do anything they do. I'm not convinced they know the first thing about the game anyways.

[bad hop]

Little has pitched aganist these teams. As a freshman he took a 1-0 lead into the 6th inning aganist Johnson Central, he lost 2-1 after a 45 minute sun delay. He also pitched aganist Paintsville as a freashman lost 3-1 but really pitched a great game. AC had no choice but use Little aganist district teams. They are young and needed to make sure to be seeded as number 1. I happen to think they have been wise in doing it this way. As to getting 4 K's in one inning it happens often. The game that Fife from J.C. had 20 K's the run that lost J.C. the game was a runner reaching base on a dropped Third strike. So blue blur if you don't know the rules of baseball don't say anything.

[The Blue Blur]

It can also work in reverse. If Little is going to consistantly throw against some of the worst teams in the state of Kentucky, it can also make him feel a false feeling of invincibility. Probably wouldn't hurt him or Allen Central either for that matter to have thrown against Paintsville just to get a feel for Little to see just exactly where he stacked up against a quality hitting team.

Who knows why Allen Central coaches do anything they do. I'm not convinced they know the first thing about the game anyways.

My point exactly. And to the guy above me, he has pitched against the better teams with better teams backing him. Little has almost untarnished stats this year, but hasn't really faced anyone this season. No doubt Little is a good pitcher, but sometimes you need one on the chin as a wake up call like Kimball said. Same could be said about Little facing these teams in the past, they've all seen him before but that's not the case. Players improve or don't, and teams improve or don't each year.

[bad hop]

the question is then do you use little to win your district or pitch him aganist the better teams and lose games 2-1, 2-0, 3-2 whatever. Like coach Kidd did when Little was a freshman. I don't know for sure but Little may have not won a game as a freshman he was wasted aganist teams which AC could not score on. I agree that it would have helped Little to have pitched aganist better teams a couple of times, but the district seed was just too important. But AC stills has to beat SF and Whoever to win the district. No team needs to take other teams for granted.

[bad hop]

Also I think Pacman was refering to the fact that Paintsville gets JC in first game of district.

[Tubby Hater]

the question is then do you use little to win your district or pitch him aganist the better teams and lose games 2-1, 2-0, 3-2 whatever. Like coach Kidd did when Little was a freshman. I don't know for sure but Little may have not won a game as a freshman he was wasted aganist teams which AC could not score on. I agree that it would have helped Little to have pitched aganist better teams a couple of times, but the district seed was just too important. But AC stills has to beat SF and Whoever to win the district. No team needs to take other teams for granted.

I understand your point but my god dude that District is weaker than some Little Leagues. You can bring out a cheerleader and have a good shot in that district

[Pacman]

I understand why you didnt throw Little against Pville but your other statement about Pville will see them if they are, well you have to make it as well. With a young team like you have anything can happen and just remember you are one injury away from being on the same level as the other 3 teams. I dont see AC getting beat in the district but remember its tourney time and anything could happen. In 03 when AC won the region they had to go extra innings to get out of the 1st round of District against the 4th seeded Blackcats. I'd like to see AC make a good run this year but dont get over confident PacMan

No one is getting overconfident. South Floyd isn't very good this year and AC should beat them, but if they went in there today and overlooked them, then they could easily be beaten. I recall AC only beating SF 10-6 in the first matchup. I'm just putting a poor remark in it's place. Blue Blur accused AC of stat boosting while knowing very little about what actually happens. I can say the same about Paintsville, but I won't because, frankly, I could care less. I don't care if they say they have 10 kids batting perfect. But from what I have watched of AC, they seem pretty legit, and the coaches seem to know a little something about what they're doing. Heck they won 13 games this season with a very young and inexperienced team. If I remember correctly, they had only won 13 games the year AC won region (finished with 17 wins after postseason)-- so that's a pretty good accomplishment. Not comparing the two teams because that was an upperclassmen filled team with some good pitching. This is an underclassmen - mostly freshman - filled team with some good pitching. You never know what may happen. At the same time, assuming AC beat SF, they will be in the region. Why throw Little against PVille, JC, or Lawrence County late in the season? He threw against Pikeville at the beginning of the season and had a no-hitter going into the 6th inning - so he has proved he can pitch against good competition and good hitting.

[The Blue Blur]

No one is getting overconfident. South Floyd isn't very good this year and AC should beat them, but if they went in there today and overlooked them, then they could easily be beaten. I recall AC only beating SF 10-6 in the first matchup. I'm just putting a poor remark in it's place. Blue Blur accused AC of stat boosting while knowing very little about what actually happens. I can say the same about Paintsville, but I won't because, frankly, I could care less. I don't care if they say they have 10 kids batting perfect. But from what I have watched of AC, they seem pretty legit, and the coaches seem to know a little something about what they're doing. Heck they won 13 games this season with a very young and inexperienced team. If I remember correctly, they had only won 13 games the year AC won region (finished with 17 wins after postseason)-- so that's a pretty good accomplishment. Not comparing the two teams because that was an upperclassmen filled team with some good pitching. This is an underclassmen - mostly freshman - filled team with some good pitching. You never know what may happen. At the same time, assuming AC beat SF, they will be in the region. Why throw Little against PVille, JC, or Lawrence County late in the season? He threw against Pikeville at the beginning of the season and had a no-hitter going into the 6th inning - so he has proved he can pitch against good competition and good hitting.

No, I'm saying that about years past. Allen Central has stat boosted, not this year. I assure you Paintsville isn't stat boosting but not that stats matter, the game is to be played everyday. Stats are just icing on the cake, I think you've seen Paintsville have all the college signees already sign that plan to play next year in Pugh, Sublett and Watkins. So really Paintsville has no reason to be stat boosting. Bad hop has accused me of not knowing the rules of baseball, which is no big deal to me. No I had no clue what happend this weekend, you try working 48 hours in 4 days, and waking up on the fourth straight day staring another 12 hour shift in the eye, then we'll talk. I'd just woke up and was still quite asleep, wasn't thinking clearly about a dropped 3rd strike and it does happen. I admitted that Little is a dandy pitcher, all I've said is I would've like to seen him pitch against Paintsville as it would've been more interesting. Then I came back and said that I thought he could benefit more from pitching against better teams but I do understand why he hasn't. So you can just get off my back now.

[Mr.Kimball]

No one is getting overconfident. South Floyd isn't very good this year and AC should beat them, but if they went in there today and overlooked them, then they could easily be beaten. I recall AC only beating SF 10-6 in the first matchup. I'm just putting a poor remark in it's place. Blue Blur accused AC of stat boosting while knowing very little about what actually happens. I can say the same about Paintsville, but I won't because, frankly, I could care less. I don't care if they say they have 10 kids batting perfect. But from what I have watched of AC, they seem pretty legit, and the coaches seem to know a little something about what they're doing. Heck they won 13 games this season with a very young and inexperienced team. If I remember correctly, they had only won 13 games the year AC won region (finished with 17 wins after postseason)-- so that's a pretty good accomplishment. Not comparing the two teams because that was an upperclassmen filled team with some good pitching. This is an underclassmen - mostly freshman - filled team with some good pitching. You never know what may happen. At the same time, assuming AC beat SF, they will be in the region. Why throw Little against PVille, JC, or Lawrence County late in the season? He threw against Pikeville at the beginning of the season and had a no-hitter going into the 6th inning - so he has proved he can pitch against good competition and good hitting.

Well , I do know alittle of what happens and AC is notorious for stat boosting. They are blatant about it,especially last year.

This not showing anyone your pitcher stuff to me is all a bunch of bologny to begin with. You trying to tell me that when Little pitched against Betsy Layne earlier in the season and AC scored something like 23 runs that it was necessary to throw Little the entire game. Allen Central was putting up mega runs every inning in that game. That game was all about Betsy Layne not having any pitching, nothing about how Little could shut them down. Heck you had Lawrence Co. the next night. Johnson never has cared about how he abused Little by throwing him every day before. Why start by caring now. Yeah, he threw against Pikeville the first game of the season when it was cold and miserable outside. But if you remember Pikeville was absolutely horrible early in the season, and I think I am correct that Little wasn't able to throw the ball for quite some time after that game because his arm was killing him. In reality the AC coaches only cared about doing whatever it took to beat Pikeville. You dont come out that early in the season in those weather conditions and do a kid the way they did Little.

I have also noticed that someone it trying to promote Little on "Rivals" as being a legitimate college level pitcher, flashing all those stats around. That's all fine and dandy, to try to get his name out there but I got news, college coaches dont give a hill of beans about those inflated 15th region stats. If anyone is truley trying to put Little's future in a serious senerio , then expose him to good competition. There is not a college coach in the country that will be impressed with watching him throw or hearing about his stats against Buckhorn or Betsy Layne. For one thing you wont get them to the game in the first place. They would come to guage him against someone like Lawrence, Paintsville or JC though.

[Mr.Kimball]

the question is then do you use little to win your district or pitch him aganist the better teams and lose games 2-1, 2-0, 3-2 whatever. Like coach Kidd did when Little was a freshman. I don't know for sure but Little may have not won a game as a freshman he was wasted aganist teams which AC could not score on. I agree that it would have helped Little to have pitched aganist better teams a couple of times, but the district seed was just too important. But AC stills has to beat SF and Whoever to win the district. No team needs to take other teams for granted.

Why would it matter about a district seed. If you throw Little against anyone one of those teams in the first round of the district tournament you are going to get the win and an automatic trip to the regional tournament anyways. Surely you dont think that there is a team in the 58th that can beat AC with Little on the hill. That is the part that is not rocket science. There is no doubt that the 58th district is by far the weakest district in the entire state. The pitiful thing is that there are going to be two of those teams in the regional tournament and you are going to have three teams in the 57th that wont be there, and are better than any team in the 58th.

[Pacman]

Why would it matter about a district seed. If you throw Little against anyone one of those teams in the first round of the district tournament you are going to get the win and an automatic trip to the regional tournament anyways. Surely you dont think that there is a team in the 58th that can beat AC with Little on the hill. That is the part that is not rocket science. There is no doubt that the 58th district is by far the weakest district in the entire state. The pitiful thing is that there are going to be two of those teams in the regional tournament and you are going to have three teams in the 57th that wont be there, and are better than any team in the 58th.

Yea, I agree that you could throw Little in the first round, but why play for a first round win and only a regional tournament bid. Instead, why not play for a situation in which you don't have to throw Little in the first round of the district, throw him in the championship (which gives AC a much better chance of winning the championship), and get a district runner up in the first round of the region. Then, you may or may not throw Little (most likely would), and get a better shot of making the semifinals. There, if you get a good draw, then maybe you saved Little for the semi's (if they can make it, but they have pretty good pitching other than Little) and then you may have a very young team that nobody gave a chance in the championship of the region. Or Little pitches the first round and then AC gets hot and plays above their game. And knowing the game of baseball, anybody can get hot or play flawless on any given day and beat any other team. That's why you throw Little against district competition -- when you seed in the district tournament.

As for the BL game, I don't know why Scott Little completed that game, but I'd imagine it only went 5 innings, and Little had to start the game to insure that AC would get the win, so once he got a couple of innings in, why not finish it out, unless his pitch count got high, then I could see your argument. I agree though, that if it was like a 15 run lead in the 3rd, go ahead and remove him and let some younger guys get some time. I don't know how that went though.

[Pacman]

Well , I do know alittle of what happens and AC is notorious for stat boosting. They are blatant about it,especially last year.

This not showing anyone your pitcher stuff to me is all a bunch of bologny to begin with. You trying to tell me that when Little pitched against Betsy Layne earlier in the season and AC scored something like 23 runs that it was necessary to throw Little the entire game. Allen Central was putting up mega runs every inning in that game. That game was all about Betsy Layne not having any pitching, nothing about how Little could shut them down. Heck you had Lawrence Co. the next night. Johnson never has cared about how he abused Little by throwing him every day before. Why start by caring now. Yeah, he threw against Pikeville the first game of the season when it was cold and miserable outside. But if you remember Pikeville was absolutely horrible early in the season, and I think I am correct that Little wasn't able to throw the ball for quite some time after that game because his arm was killing him. In reality the AC coaches only cared about doing whatever it took to beat Pikeville. You dont come out that early in the season in those weather conditions and do a kid the way they did Little.

If I'm not mistaken, I think he pitched about a week later or about 10 days later against Prestonsburg. And according to the website they only played 2 games the following week after Pikeville.

Also, I think Little only threw around 75-80 pitches in that game. I think you can go back and read about it on here that the left-handed freshman... Crowder, came in and pitched the last 2 innings.

Another thing, I remember Grimm, Fyffe, Blanton and many others pitching the first week of the season throwing around 75 pitches or so, and there is no mention of pitching them in "those weather conditions". And if Little has been done so bad, then why haven't their been complaints from him or his family. I think his dad actually helps out this season - so they must have a pretty good relationship, especially if Little is on Rivals. I say good luck to Scott Little. He is a dandy pitcher. I would like to see him go somewhere good, and kudos to the coaching staff if they work hard to make it happen.

[bad hop]

I understand your point but my god dude that District is weaker than some Little Leagues. You can bring out a cheerleader and have a good shot in that district

You must understand that a district winner gets a district loser. I also agree that at least three of the best teams are in the 57th. Not ACs fault. Also Pike county is also weaker than usual so if AC can go in as a winner and gets a good draw who knows.