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09-29-2019, 12:52 AM
- Tilghman 5-1 0.757
- Mercer 5-1 0.737
- Bell 5-0 0.699
- Russell 5-1 0.697
- Bardstown 5-1 0.693
- Belfry 3-2 0.668
- CAL 3-3 0.663
- Desales 3-2 0.629
- Taylor 5-1 0.594
- Ashland 4-1 0.593
09-29-2019, 02:36 AM
Belfry can still get a small boost if Archbishop Alter wins tonight.
09-29-2019, 02:48 AM
Bell Co next 2 opponents have winnings records.
09-29-2019, 04:45 AM
Bellâs opponents have winning records, but their opponents is what hurts the most. Nothing Bell can do about it because of the district. Sad, but they could be #1, #2 or #3 in AP, but have to travel when 3rd week of playoffs begin. They are third and could easily keep dropping while winning games. Messed up system.
09-29-2019, 04:49 AM
four quarters Wrote:Bellâs opponents have winning records, but their opponents is what hurts the most. Nothing Bell can do about it because of the district. Sad, but they could be #1, #2 or #3 in AP, but have to travel when 3rd week of playoffs begin. They are third and could easily keep dropping while winning games. Messed up system.Not sure what your'e smoking but Bells opponents are 6-22.
09-29-2019, 05:39 AM
Iam4thecats Wrote:
- Tilghman 5-1 0.757
- Mercer 5-1 0.737
- Bell 5-0 0.699
- Russell 5-1 0.697
- Bardstown 5-1 0.693
- Belfry 3-2 0.668
- CAL 3-3 0.663
- Desales 3-2 0.629
- Taylor 5-1 0.594
- Ashland 4-1 0.593
Iâll be shocked if the 3A champion comes out of the top 4 on this list
09-29-2019, 05:46 AM
Not sure if I agree with a couple in the top 5 there. Overall I don't guess it's bad. Taylor will go up after we play Glasgow, but our district isn't very good other than Glasgow.
09-29-2019, 06:30 AM
four quarters Wrote:Bellâs opponents have winning records, but their opponents is what hurts the most. Nothing Bell can do about it because of the district. Sad, but they could be #1, #2 or #3 in AP, but have to travel when 3rd week of playoffs begin. They are third and could easily keep dropping while winning games. Messed up system.
Only playing 4 home games in regular season. This team will be use to playing on the road.
09-29-2019, 07:46 AM
Hard to believe Glasgow isn't somewhere in the Top 10. Losing a 1 point game to a highly ranked South Warren team is probably better than most teams best win..
09-29-2019, 07:54 AM
Iâm not putting Bell down. Iâm saying the RPI will continue to drop Bell (who was #1 at one time) because of Bellâs opponents (OPPONENTS) Bad teams playing bad teams that Bell beat is hurting them. Check out the system and how it works.
09-29-2019, 08:12 AM
Belfry gets #3 dixon rb back healthy i predict belfry wins 3a.
09-29-2019, 09:02 PM
Everyone knew this week would hurt Bell’s ratings because a McCreary is so low, but the rest of the district isn’t as low. If we beat Harlan County late that should help us. Also, Knox struggling so bad has hurt.
09-29-2019, 09:34 PM
Bell Co's issue is not their district slate; it's the remaining schedule, which they control, that is an issue.
There is nothing Bell can do about their district opponents, but good ol'Dudley opted for a non-district schedule that is profoundly mediocre.
Bell could ultimately be a fantastic team, but even at 12-0, they will have earned nothing less than a long road trip to an opponent's home field.
There is nothing Bell can do about their district opponents, but good ol'Dudley opted for a non-district schedule that is profoundly mediocre.
Bell could ultimately be a fantastic team, but even at 12-0, they will have earned nothing less than a long road trip to an opponent's home field.
09-29-2019, 10:07 PM
Did Alter win
09-30-2019, 03:46 AM
The good thing for Bell is we are ahead of Belfry and Ashland. Belfry doesn’t have anyone left on their schedule that’s very good beside Johnson Central. So their schedule isn’t tough either.
09-30-2019, 03:50 AM
ArJay Wrote:The good thing for Bell is we are ahead of Belfry and Ashland. Belfry doesnât have anyone left on their schedule thatâs very good beside Johnson Central. So their schedule isnât tough either.
Still getting quality points though from LCA, Alter , Southwestern and Pikeville successes. Not counting the fact that Pike Central is doing pretty well this season record wise and JC is still out there.
09-30-2019, 03:50 AM
Belfry fan 75 Wrote:Did Alter win
Yes. They won 37-0. Their now 4-1 on the season. Their only lose was the following week after the Belfry game to a powerhouse St. Francis DeSales 35-31.
09-30-2019, 03:55 AM
OutlawJoseyWales Wrote:Still getting quality points though from LCA, Alter , Southwestern and Pikeville successes. Not counting the fact that Pike Central is doing pretty well this season record wise and JC is still out there.
Yelp. Never expected Pike Central to be doing this good but I'm glad they are. For one, that program deserves it and two, IF Belfry beats them it will definitely help our RPI if the Warriors continue playing good and winning and give us points we weren't expecting. If we can go undeafeated in district play and upset Johnson Central the final game, then Belfry could very well be playing alot of home playoff games seeing as how 3A has went this year.
09-30-2019, 04:05 AM
OutlawJoseyWales Wrote:Still getting quality points though from LCA, Alter , Southwestern and Pikeville successes. Not counting the fact that Pike Central is doing pretty well this season record wise and JC is still out there.
LCA is helping us BIG TIME! And if Pikeville continues to win, and they will, their going to help us too even though we lost to them (is that correct? Do we get points from Pikeville?). Man, if we can pull out the upset in the season finale it would be huge for us. But first we HAVE to win the rest of our district games. And it's not guaranteed that we will. We're likely to, but nothing is certain as we've already experienced. I think we'll be ok next week against Floyd Central but the Pirates better not be sitting back and overlooking the Warriors. Those kids are playing inspired football right now. And I'm so happy for those kids and that program. Also, let us not forget the last time we went to Pike Central. They jumped on us early and we were only up 7 at the half, if I'm not mistaken, until we pulled it together and pulled away in the second half. And this PC team is better than that team, IMO. And dont forget about the Mighty Dawgs of Lawrence County. They may be down but those boys still play some hard-nose football over that way. But, there's still alot of football left to be played. As far as the rankings go, I think the Bell County Bobcats should be #1 but that's just me.
Side note: I'm still kinda confused with this RPI points thing. I thought we didnt get points for out of state teams? Are we getting points for the Alter lose?
09-30-2019, 04:06 AM
OutlawJoseyWales Wrote:Iâll be shocked if the 3A champion comes out of the top 4 on this list
I wont.
09-30-2019, 04:12 AM
#55PirateFan Wrote:LCA is helping us BIG TIME! And if Pikeville continues to win, and they will, their going to help us too even though we lost to them (is that correct? Do we get points from Pikeville?). Man, if we can pull out the upset in the season finale it would be huge for us. But first we HAVE to win the rest of our district games. And it's not guaranteed that we will. We're likely to, but nothing is certain as we've already experienced. I think we'll be ok next week against Floyd Central but the Pirates better not be sitting back and overlooking the Warriors. Those kids are playing inspired football right now. And I'm so happy for those kids and that program. Also, let us not forget the last time we went to Pike Central. We never did get comfortable in that game and damn near got beat. And this PC team is better than that team, IMO. But, theres still alot of football left to be played. As far as the rankings go, I think the Bell County Bobcats should be #1 but that's just me.it will be interesting to watch if Bell does travel to Belfry. Haywood vs. Hilton. It will likely be a short game with all the smashmouth football.
Side note: I'm still kinda confused with this RPI points thing. I thought we didnt get points for out of state teams? Are we getting points for the Alter lose?
09-30-2019, 04:17 AM
Yes you still get points for out of state teams. The only difference is out of state opponents' opponents are all weighed. 500 like they all went 5-5. Actually could help teams if their out of state opponents' opponents combined record is below .500. Could hurt if their record is combined to be >.500. Just like JC is getting points from the wv school belfry gets points from alter. Pikeville is getting points from mingo central.
09-30-2019, 04:19 AM
pjdoug Wrote:it will be interesting to watch if Bell does travel to Belfry. Haywood vs. Hilton. It will likely be a short game with all the smashmouth football.
I don't think it'll matter where that game is played, at Belfry or at Bell County. I think it would be a great game if it happens and could go either way. A 50/50 toss-up. And I'm like you, if it does it'll be a smashmouth football game that should go along quick as long as the zebras dont start throwing flags every other down and let them play hard nosed football. People can say Bell is playing a weak schedule all they want. I've said it myself. But their doing exactly what they need to be doing and that's winning them all and getting their starters some rest and their backups some good quality playing time. I think Bell County will be dangerous as a cocked gun come November.
09-30-2019, 04:24 AM
#55PirateFan Wrote:I don't think it'll matter where that game is played, at Belfry or at Bell County. I think it would be a great game if it happens and could go either way. A 50/50 toss-up. And I'm like you, if it does it'll be a smashmouth football game that should go along quick as long as the zebras dont start throwing flags every other down and let them play hard nosed football. People can say Bell his playing a weak schedule all they want. I've said it myself. But their doing exactly what they need to be doing and that's winning them all and getting their starters some rest and their backups some good quality playing time. I think Bell County will be dangerous as a cocked gun come November.
I definitely hope flags don't ruin a good game. Dudley Hilton will have them ready for war weak schedule or not, like him or not, and he and Haywood will be in a chess match. Belfry might be the favorite, but that Bell County quarterback is lightning quick, can spread the field or throw it deep.
09-30-2019, 04:25 AM
pirateforlife Wrote:Yes you still get points for out of state teams. The only difference is out of state opponents' opponents are all weighed. 500 like they all went 5-5. Actually could help teams if their out of state opponents' opponents combined record is below .500. Could hurt if their record is combined to be >.500. Just like JC is getting points from the wv school belfry gets points from alter. Pikeville is getting points from mingo central.
Thanks for the explanation friend. I'm just going to take your guys word for it. Thats to much math for me, Lol! But that is good that we can get points from out of state teams. Same thing for in state teams, Pikeville, that beat us? We still get points for their wins?
09-30-2019, 04:26 AM
pjdoug Wrote:I definitely hope flags don't ruin a good game. Dudley Hilton will have them ready for war weak schedule or not, like him or not, and he and Haywood will be in a chess match. Belfry might be the favorite, but that Bell County quarterback is lightning quick, can spread the field or throw it deep.
No doubt Coach Hilton will have his boys ready to play. Will be a dandy if it happens.
09-30-2019, 05:10 AM
#55PirateFan Wrote:Thanks for the explanation friend. I'm just going to take your guys word for it. Thats to much math for me, Lol! But that is good that we can get points from out of state teams. Same thing for in state teams, Pikeville, that beat us? We still get points for their wins?
Yes. Just hope teams on your schedule keep winning whether you win/lose against them. You get points from them winning. If you lose, you still get points from the team you lost to but just not as much if you would have beat them. LCA, Pikeville, and JC are really helping belfry right now. Just like it helps those teams when belfry wins. The first part of the RPI calculation is Game Result (0.35 x Winning Percentage). That is a 3rd of the RPI calculation. Maximum # the Game Result can be is 10 since most teams play a 10 game regular season. If you go winless you would substitute a 0 in that space. 7 wins substitute a 7 in that space. It already hurts belfry since they only play 9 games. They've lost 2 already so even if belfry wins all their remaining regular season games the maximum # that they can have to substitute into the Game Result part of the equation is 7 since their final regular season record would be 7-2. This post may be a little hard to understand but I explained it best I could.
09-30-2019, 05:14 AM
pirateforlife Wrote:Yes. Just hope teams on your schedule keep winning whether you win/lose against them. You get points from them winning. If you lose, you still get points from the team you lost to but just not as much if you would have beat them. LCA, Pikeville, and JC are really helping belfry right now. Just like it helps those teams when belfry wins. The first part of the RPI calculation is Game Result (0.35 x Winning Percentage). That is a 3rd of the RPI calculation. Maximum # the Game Result can be is 10 since most teams play a 10 game regular season. If you go winless you would substitute a 0 in that space. 7 wins substitute a 7 in that space. It already hurts belfry since they only play 9 games. They've lost 2 already so even if belfry wins all their remaining regular season games the maximum # that they can have to substitute into the Game Result part of the equation is 7 since their final regular season record would be 7-2. This post may be a little hard to understand but I explained it best I could.
Actually it makes since, to me at least. Appreciate it.
09-30-2019, 05:24 AM
Iam4thecats Wrote:
- Tilghman 5-1 0.757
- Mercer 5-1 0.737
- Bell 5-0 0.699
- Russell 5-1 0.697
- Bardstown 5-1 0.693
- Belfry 3-2 0.668
- CAL 3-3 0.663
- Desales 3-2 0.629
- Taylor 5-1 0.594
- Ashland 4-1 0.593
Talking about earning it... if you end up in the 2 vs. 3 seed game out of District 4, your path to a state championship would be...
Round 1 - vs. CAL/DeSales/Mercer Co
Round 2 - @ CAL/DeSales/Mercer Co
Round 3 - @ Bardstown
Round 4 - vs. Tilghman/Bell/Belfry/Russell/Ashland
Round 5 - vs. Tilghman/Bell/Belfry/Russell/Ashland
Not a single team along the way not in the top ten.
09-30-2019, 05:25 AM
I’m still not understanding the point system. I didn’t think you got any credit for a loss even to a good team?
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