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10-18-2008, 03:49 PM
10-18-2008, 04:26 PM
Old School Wrote:Below is a very interesting site about Obama.
http://neverfindout.org/
While I am not clicking on it, I am assuming it is "no pleasant place" for Obama or his supporters. Let me guess: Obama is a.... (a) communist (b)socialist © both "a" and "b" (d) terrorist (e) uppity black man (f) non US citizen (g) all of the above. When I think of lowest common denominator human behavior, I think of these kinds of tactics, along with strip clubs and Vegas gambling halls.
10-18-2008, 05:56 PM
thecavemaster Wrote:While I am not clicking on it, I am assuming it is "no pleasant place" for Obama or his supporters. Let me guess: Obama is a.... (a) communist (b)socialist © both "a" and "b" (d) terrorist (e) uppity black man (f) non US citizen (g) all of the above. When I think of lowest common denominator human behavior, I think of these kinds of tactics, along with strip clubs and Vegas gambling halls.Figures- let me guess, you think all Republicans are the cause for poverty and taxes and every other problem in the country.
Click the link- Obama's betraying you by misleading you.
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10-18-2008, 06:03 PM
BFritz Wrote:Figures- let me guess, you think all Republicans are the cause for poverty and taxes and every other problem in the country.
Click the link- Obama's betraying you by misleading you.
(A) You don't know me. (B) You guessed wrong. © Human nature explains things at a much deeper level than political affiliation. (D) Trickle down economics does not account for human greed, or avarice, one of the seven deadlies, according to the tradition so loved by religious conservatives. (E) I do real research: I don't have to click links.
10-18-2008, 06:08 PM
thecavemaster Wrote:While I am not clicking on it, I am assuming it is "no pleasant place" for Obama or his supporters. Let me guess: Obama is a.... (a) communist (b)socialist © both "a" and "b" (d) terrorist (e) uppity black man (f) non US citizen (g) all of the above. When I think of lowest common denominator human behavior, I think of these kinds of tactics, along with strip clubs and Vegas gambling halls.
C'mon click on it, I thought you were open minded. Don't you want to hear the good and the bad about each candidate so you can make the proper decision in November, or are you just one that votes along party lines?
10-18-2008, 06:31 PM
Old School Wrote:C'mon click on it, I thought you were open minded. Don't you want to hear the good and the bad about each candidate so you can make the proper decision in November, or are you just one that votes along party lines?
Open mindedness and openness to biased garbage are separate things. You know that. If clicking on your link is necessary to making an informed November decision, democracy in America is in worse shape than we thought.
10-18-2008, 07:40 PM
thecavemaster Wrote:Open mindedness and openness to biased garbage are separate things. You know that. If clicking on your link is necessary to making an informed November decision, democracy in America is in worse shape than we thought.Yeah, because the link gives facts, and most Democrats ignore facts and base their electoral decision on the assumption that Republicans are ruining their lives and keeping them from acquiring any money by taxing them and helping out the rich.
Click the link.
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10-19-2008, 12:52 AM
BFritz Wrote:Yeah, because the link gives facts, and most Democrats ignore facts and base their electoral decision on the assumption that Republicans are ruining their lives and keeping them from acquiring any money by taxing them and helping out the rich.
Click the link.
Lol.
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10-19-2008, 01:27 AM
BFritz Wrote:Yeah, because the link gives facts, and most Democrats ignore facts and base their electoral decision on the assumption that Republicans are ruining their lives and keeping them from acquiring any money by taxing them and helping out the rich.
Click the link.
When you assume, do you know what happens? Research for yourself, real research, the effects of trickle down economics. However, whatever you need to believe to sleep at night, fire on it...
10-19-2008, 01:41 AM
Thanks for the link! Very interesting :-)
10-19-2008, 03:08 AM
This is absurd!I never dreamed Old School would stoop so low as to disguise a 527 PAC website as a legitimate news source.
But then again with a name like Old School why would anyone expect anyless. I mean smear tactics and negative attacks are the oldest plays in the book.
Good thing for us is America isn't that old anymore and we're tired of all the lies and double talk.
But then again with a name like Old School why would anyone expect anyless. I mean smear tactics and negative attacks are the oldest plays in the book.
Good thing for us is America isn't that old anymore and we're tired of all the lies and double talk.
10-19-2008, 10:31 AM
DevilsWin Wrote:This is absurd!I never dreamed Old School would stoop so low as to disguise a 527 PAC website as a legitimate news source.
But then again with a name like Old School why would anyone expect anyless. I mean smear tactics and negative attacks are the oldest plays in the book.
Good thing for us is America isn't that old anymore and we're tired of all the lies and double talk.
There you go again, babbling about smear tatics which is being used by both Obama and McCain campaigns,.....Funny that in your post you never denied any of the points brought up in the ad?
Refresh my memory DW, on several occasions you have come out and said that all of our nations problems are the fault of the Republicans, and your tired of lies and double talk. Talk about being hypocritical!
10-19-2008, 10:33 AM
DevilsWin Wrote:This is absurd!I never dreamed Old School would stoop so low as to disguise a 527 PAC website as a legitimate news source.
But then again with a name like Old School why would anyone expect anyless. I mean smear tactics and negative attacks are the oldest plays in the book.
Good thing for us is America isn't that old anymore and we're tired of all the lies and double talk.
Thanks fo rthe link.
Well, you better get used to it then....lol
Except now we will call it....jive and double talk...lol
10-19-2008, 02:46 PM
Very good website! thanks a lot!
These people that refuse to click on it, do not want to face the facts.
These people that refuse to click on it, do not want to face the facts.
10-19-2008, 04:22 PM
Kysportsfan Wrote:Very good website! thanks a lot!
These people that refuse to click on it, do not want to face the facts.
Lol, no. We just prefer to get our "facts" from somewhere that is UNBIASED.
http://www.neverfindout.org is a project of Let Freedom Ring, Inc.
And here is Let Freedom Ring's description from their own website (http://www.letfreedomringusa.com/about):
"Let Freedom Ring" is a non-profit, grassroots organization supporting a Conservative agenda.
Duh, duh, duh, derrrrrrrrrrrr - "supporting a Conservative agenda"...I think they might be biased.....

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10-19-2008, 05:58 PM
Kysportsfan Wrote:Very good website! thanks a lot!
These people that refuse to click on it, do not want to face the facts.
Let us say that you were to click on moveon.org. Would you trust the facts there? There are no facts, in a sense. There is only each person's perception of reality, which is shaped by heredity, environment, and personal response (And god knows what else). Face the fact that facts and truth lie in the eyes of what is needed to believe. It is a human trait that knows no party affiliation. So, please, stop with the "click on this or you willingly keep your eyes blind to truth" garbage.
10-19-2008, 11:44 PM
OffTheHook Wrote:Thanks fo rthe link.
Well, you better get used to it then....lol
Except now we will call it....jive and double talk...lol
I believe this statement is quite offensive.
10-20-2008, 01:44 AM
So it's ok for you (old School) to present a very biased point of view on issues your concerned about, but when I present an environmental view on MTR, it's somehow wrong, and im uniformed? What hypocrisy!
10-20-2008, 04:43 AM
thecavemaster Wrote:While I am not clicking on it, I am assuming it is "no pleasant place" for Obama or his supporters. Let me guess: Obama is a.... (a) communist (b)socialist © both "a" and "b" (d) terrorist (e) uppity black man (f) non US citizen (g) all of the above. When I think of lowest common denominator human behavior, I think of these kinds of tactics, along with strip clubs and Vegas gambling halls.
If I liked both of those things, and am voting for McCain.
Am I scum of the earth

10-20-2008, 08:40 AM
NEXT Wrote:If I liked both of those things, and am voting for McCain.
Am I scum of the earth?
Bob Segar: "I used you; you used me: we neither one cared." Did I call you "scum"? No. Strip clubs take a natural human drive and distort it and twist it. Gambling halls are for many a diversion; however, for some they are a life destroyer, based on the illusion of the "get rich quick" dream.
10-21-2008, 06:30 PM
Coach_Owens87 Wrote:So it's ok for you (old School) to present a very biased point of view on issues your concerned about, but when I present an environmental view on MTR, it's somehow wrong, and im uniformed? What hypocrisy!
Hypocrisy....no I really don't think so, while your trying to compare apples to oranges, let's look at the whole picture. The environmental sites you refer to are misleading and most often flat out wrong, and I have proven that on several threads. True this ad was produced by the republicans, but here's the clincher, zero....not one single Obama supporter on this site has tried to refute any of the points brought up in this ad. Why is that? Is this just another sign that they are all true?
10-21-2008, 07:13 PM
Old School Wrote:Hypocrisy....no I really don't think so, while your trying to compare apples to oranges, let's look at the whole picture. The environmental sites you refer to are misleading and most often flat out wrong, and I have proven that on several threads. True this ad was produced by the republicans, but here's the clincher, zero....not one single Obama supporter on this site has tried to refute any of the points brought up in this ad. Why is that? Is this just another sign that they are all true?
These Ads speak for themselves and the American people see right trough this BS.
So there is no sense in trying to refute something so ridiculous.
These people don't speak for or to average Americans.
Smear Smear Smear That's all you got Old School just like McCain.
Just the same ole crap! The same ole crap that is serving not to protect but rather to divide America.
You hate America, but you don't even know it.......

10-21-2008, 07:17 PM
Old School Wrote:Hypocrisy....no I really don't think so, while your trying to compare apples to oranges, let's look at the whole picture. The environmental sites you refer to are misleading and most often flat out wrong, and I have proven that on several threads. True this ad was produced by the republicans, but here's the clincher, zero....not one single Obama supporter on this site has tried to refute any of the points brought up in this ad. Why is that? Is this just another sign that they are all true?
I'm not reading the pedantic rant site you posted: if it is your desire to conclude from that that an Obama supporter cannnot refute these points that's your need to believe talking, not reality.
10-21-2008, 07:57 PM
DevilsWin Wrote:These Ads speak for themselves and the American people see right trough this BS.
So there is no sense in trying to refute something so ridiculous.
These people don't speak for or to average Americans.
Smear Smear Smear That's all you got Old School just like McCain.
Just the same ole crap! The same ole crap that is serving not to protect but rather to divide America.
You hate America, but you don't even know it.......
Points brought up in the ad.
1) In just 3 years Obama has requested 740 million dollars in earmarks, while McCain in 26 years of service in the Senate has ask for 0 dollars in earmarks that my friends is on record.
2) In 2007 Obama's voting record was the most liberal, that my friends is also on record.
3) The chicken button Obama voted PRESENT 129 times, that means he would not commit either way for or against a bill, that my friends is also on record.
4) Obama said he doesn't want his daughters to be punished with a baby if they became pregnant, he is willing to kill his own grandchild for god's sake, so do you really think he cares for you!
I hate America, your the one that's supporting a man with ties to a terrorist, sat in a church for 20 years with a man that said not God Bless America, but GD America, DW if you want to find someone that hates America, you may want to look in the mirror.
10-21-2008, 08:01 PM
thecavemaster Wrote:I'm not reading the pedantic rant site you posted: if it is your desire to conclude from that that an Obama supporter cannnot refute these points that's your need to believe talking, not reality.
I really don't care if you read it or not, I look at it like this if you don't vote in a election then you don't have the right to complain about the one that was elected, in other words if you don't read the site then you don't have any right to comlain about what its says.
10-21-2008, 08:30 PM
Old School Wrote:I really don't care if you read it or not, I look at it like this if you don't vote in a election then you don't have the right to complain about the one that was elected, in other words if you don't read the site then you don't have any right to comlain about what its says.
And I thought you were losing sleep over my not reading it... Can you tell me how the information on this site is not the typical slanted slop posted on blogs far right and left?
10-22-2008, 11:26 AM
Old School Wrote:Points brought up in the ad.
1) In just 3 years Obama has requested 740 million dollars in earmarks, while McCain in 26 years of service in the Senate has ask for 0 dollars in earmarks that my friends is on record.
2) In 2007 Obama's voting record was the most liberal, that my friends is also on record.
3) The chicken button Obama voted PRESENT 129 times, that means he would not commit either way for or against a bill, that my friends is also on record.
4) Obama said he doesn't want his daughters to be punished with a baby if they became pregnant, he is willing to kill his own grandchild for god's sake, so do you really think he cares for you!
I hate America, your the one that's supporting a man with ties to a terrorist, sat in a church for 20 years with a man that said not God Bless America, but GD America, DW if you want to find someone that hates America, you may want to look in the mirror.
No, I love America.
What I hate is people that constantly try to divide America.
They think they can force their views on others and those that disagree are either Communists, Socialists or Terrorists.
That is not American!
That is Ethnocentrism! You should look it up sometime.
It would be kinda like looking in a mirror for you and your kind.
10-22-2008, 11:59 AM
DevilsWin Wrote:No, I love America.
What I hate is people that constantly try to divide America.
They think they can force their views on others and those that disagree are either Communists, Socialists or Terrorists.
That is not American!
That is Ethnocentrism! You should look it up sometime.
It would be kinda like looking in a mirror for you and your kind.
Its not that you disagree with us, its the ideas your candidate proposes. His ideas are very socialist and very communistic the way they change our govt. You don't think spreading the wealth is communistic? Universal Healthcare provided by tax payers money? Spreading the wealth is exactly what socialism and communism are. Eveeryone gets equal everything no matter what job they work, or how hard they work. The harder you work and the more money you work, the more you're penalized. Whats the benefit of working hard if in the end the result is the same as doing nothing?
10-22-2008, 12:21 PM
Beetle01 Wrote:Its not that you disagree with us, its the ideas your candidate proposes. His ideas are very socialist and very communistic the way they change our govt. You don't think spreading the wealth is communistic? Universal Healthcare provided by tax payers money? Spreading the wealth is exactly what socialism and communism are. Eveeryone gets equal everything no matter what job they work, or how hard they work. The harder you work and the more money you work, the more you're penalized. Whats the benefit of working hard if in the end the result is the same as doing nothing?
I just don't buy your arguement.
I think you are far too paranoid about the wrong things.
The Democrats do not stand for the things of which you accuse them.
It's a fear tactic that has been very successful for your side, but America is getting tired of the Conservative right crying about how the Liberal Left is destroying America while the house is falling in around them.
10-22-2008, 12:27 PM
DevilsWin Wrote:I just don't buy your arguement.
I think you are far too paranoid about the wrong things.
The Democrats do not stand for the things of which you accuse them.
It's a fear tactic that has been very successful for your side, but America is getting tired of the Conservative right crying about how the Liberal Left is destroying America while the house is falling in around them.
Okay what are the major reasons our economy is faltering right now?
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