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Sheldon Clark 7 Paintsville 5 (15th Region Championship)
#91
PC_U_KNOW_98 Wrote:It's one thing when the players can't stand eachother, except for B May, everyone likes him, BUT when the coaches can't stand eachother, lol, that's when it gets heated.

Parade aside, I don't care if Mike Hall does a parade all through the 15th region congratulations to the Cards. He has something to be proud. I don't think Grimm intentionally hit Harless, and I seriously doubt Tucker or any of the coaches have time to talk to fan/coach or whatever during the game. Harless was hit in just about every game of the post season, he might want to check where he's standing in the batter's box. Heck he leaned into one just the same as Pugh did and Runyon awarded Harless the base and Pugh was called back. I don't think they're is a heated rivalry between players. I know plenty of the Paintsville players that are friends with the SC players and will go back to being friends for the rest of their lives. I think some people on here are going a little overboard with what goes on. If the coaches want to fist fight with each other let them, they're adults they'll be held responsible for what they do. I didn't see no bench clearing brawls going on. I've seen these guys on base cutting up with the fielders from both teams as if they were having a friendly conversation or joking with each other. Hey games over, how about we let die down and the Tiger fans support the Cards next week and move on with our lives. Paintsville wasn't expected to do nothing all year, heck they had little to no experience at all positions coming into the season. They proved a lot of people wrong. The 57th district was a good race, the 15th region was a good race. Paintsville got the lucky draw and took advantage of it. SC had the ball bounce their way in the the 57th district and 15th region tournament they took advantage of it. Both teams got where they were at not because of luck, but because they played their butts off. The Tigers didn't capitalize last night, the Cards did late in the game. End of story, game over, turn the lights out and all the fans have a safe trip home.
#92
I do not want to close this thread but it must get back on topic and the personal attacks must stop NOW!
#93
PC_U_KNOW_98 Wrote:Grimm hitting Harless has nothing to do with "class". How many times have they faced eachother and how many times has Grimm hit him. Grimm was definately having control problems in districts, he walked 4 and hit 4.

listen, in the last 2 SC Pville games, Harless has been hit THREE times by Shane Grimm. Yes he did it on purpose. If he really was having control problems, he wouldnat have went 7 innings and then 6 innings in two tournament finals now would he?
#94
shelf222 Wrote:another comment , who ever the blue blur is ...you need to get your facts straight ... about the injury to jd vanhoose arm the kid did not pitch any more or any less than any other pitcher on that staff.... it was unfortunate that his injury occured ,,sometimes there is a very fine line you walk as a coach and your pitching staff..... you would not intentionally try to as a coach hurt any kid in any situtation but tonight was not that situtation it was plain and simply very very poor coaching and like I said before if it was the only time that the coachinf staff did this that would b one thing but it is most definately not!!!!! they tried their best to give the game away to east ridge the night before....lucky draws got them to where they were because they damn sure did not have the coaching to get them through any tournament

yes it was very very unfortunate that the injury happened to jd's arm, for the mere fact that it never should have happened, he was over pitched repeatedly and anyone who has a remote knowledge of baseball knows that, all except for the....hmmmm..... man (had to be nice there) who threw his arm away

was the pitching change a bone head move....heck yea it was...but other areas of the game contributed to the loss also, such as the error, missed tags, pass balls, strike outs, walks given up by the P'ville pitching, mental fatigue...you can't blame any one person, you win as a team you die as a team...and last night SC was the winning team...can't take anything away from those boys at all

but to make some of the off the wall comments that you have about the coaching staff and moving your kid around...stop and take a breath, good lord these men were good enough to associate with for the last several years, losing last night's game changes all that in your mind?

I love the game of baseball, always have and always will, it can bring you to the upper most pennicle of excitement with that "big win" and it can humble you back to earth the next night...you take each and digest it, learn from it, and move on

congrats to SC...like to see you represent this region well at sectionals!!!!

congrats to P'ville on a great season, not sure alot expected you to even come out with a winning season let alone district champs and regional runners up....can't wait til next year!!!!!
#95
blackwidow Wrote:yes it was very very unfortunate that the injury happened to jd's arm, for the mere fact that it never should have happened, he was over pitched repeatedly and anyone who has a remote knowledge of baseball knows that, all except for the....hmmmm..... man (had to be nice there) who threw his arm away

was the pitching change a bone head move....heck yea it was...but other areas of the game contributed to the loss also, such as the error, missed tags, pass balls, strike outs, walks given up by the P'ville pitching, mental fatigue...you can't blame any one person, you win as a team you die as a team...and last night SC was the winning team...can't take anything away from those boys at all

but to make some of the off the wall comments that you have about the coaching staff and moving your kid around...stop and take a breath, good lord these men were good enough to associate with for the last several years, losing last night's game changes all that in your mind?

I love the game of baseball, always have and always will, it can bring you to the upper most pennicle of excitement with that "big win" and it can humble you back to earth the next night...you take each and digest it, learn from it, and move on

congrats to SC...like to see you represent this region well at sectionals!!!!

congrats to P'ville on a great season, not sure alot expected you to even come out with a winning season let alone district champs and regional runners up....can't wait til next year!!!!!
nice post
#96
blackwidow Wrote:yes it was very very unfortunate that the injury happened to jd's arm, for the mere fact that it never should have happened, he was over pitched repeatedly and anyone who has a remote knowledge of baseball knows that, all except for the....hmmmm..... man (had to be nice there) who threw his arm away

was the pitching change a bone head move....heck yea it was...but other areas of the game contributed to the loss also, such as the error, missed tags, pass balls, strike outs, walks given up by the P'ville pitching, mental fatigue...you can't blame any one person, you win as a team you die as a team...and last night SC was the winning team...can't take anything away from those boys at all

but to make some of the off the wall comments that you have about the coaching staff and moving your kid around...stop and take a breath, good lord these men were good enough to associate with for the last several years, losing last night's game changes all that in your mind?

I love the game of baseball, always have and always will, it can bring you to the upper most pennicle of excitement with that "big win" and it can humble you back to earth the next night...you take each and digest it, learn from it, and move on

congrats to SC...like to see you represent this region well at sectionals!!!!

congrats to P'ville on a great season, not sure alot expected you to even come out with a winning season let alone district champs and regional runners up....can't wait til next year!!!!!
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#97
The Blue Blur Wrote:and I seriously doubt Tucker or any of the coaches have time to talk to fan/coach or whatever during the game...

To be honest with you, I was actually seated RIGHT there when the coach said it. Why would I just go by hear-say?

Nevermind, don't respond to that... I'm tired of arguing.

Congrats to both teams.
#98
good game S.C
#99
blackwidow Wrote:yes it was very very unfortunate that the injury happened to jd's arm, for the mere fact that it never should have happened, he was over pitched repeatedly and anyone who has a remote knowledge of baseball knows that, all except for the....hmmmm..... man (had to be nice there) who threw his arm away

was the pitching change a bone head move....heck yea it was...but other areas of the game contributed to the loss also, such as the error, missed tags, pass balls, strike outs, walks given up by the P'ville pitching, mental fatigue...you can't blame any one person, you win as a team you die as a team...and last night SC was the winning team...can't take anything away from those boys at all

but to make some of the off the wall comments that you have about the coaching staff and moving your kid around...stop and take a breath, good lord these men were good enough to associate with for the last several years, losing last night's game changes all that in your mind?

I love the game of baseball, always have and always will, it can bring you to the upper most pennicle of excitement with that "big win" and it can humble you back to earth the next night...you take each and digest it, learn from it, and move on

congrats to SC...like to see you represent this region well at sectionals!!!!

congrats to P'ville on a great season, not sure alot expected you to even come out with a winning season let alone district champs and regional runners up....can't wait til next year!!!!!


EXACTLY!:Thumbs:
twentythree Wrote:Control issues are one thing, but the coach simply stated that Grimms intentions were to bean Harless.
You actually heard the coach say that Grimm was hitting Harless on purpose? I doubt that!! Trust me in that if Hall thought Grimm was hitting him on purpose, Grimmie woulda got one in the ear at some point.
The fact is....SC is well schooled. Do you realize how stupid it is to bean someone when you have 2 strikes on them? Every time Daniel was hit it was with 2 strikes!!! Fact is, trhat he knows toi crowd and take away the inside and if the pitch is even close..... let it hit you! I guess it was on purpose that the last time he hit Daniel on the toe!!! How the hell did SC ever hit the ball if he had that kind of control??
Congrats to Sheldon Clark!

And... Keep this thread on the topic of the game
PC_U_KNOW_98 Wrote:The kids may be classy, but their coach sure as hell isn't, the fans either. Who drives the school bus ALL the way to Paintsville with the long caravan behind them driving thru the city of Paintsville honking their horns. Why do that, I could understand Johnson Central doing that had it been them who beat Paintsville considering the schools are only 2 minutes apart, but Inez and Paintsville, BIG difference. Poor show of sportsmanship on Mike Hall's part and that is one of the reasons I can't stand him. Everyone jumped all over me for dogging him in basketball season, everyone talked about how great of a guy he was and all that BS then he does something like this. I was fine with the loss, I accepted it but this, this just boils the water, that's ridiculous.
Mike is from Paintsville and alot of people in Johnson County were pulling for him....I think his kids wanted to take him back home before heading to Inez. Hell, he beat JC and Paintsville. I say let them do what they want!!!! Congrats Mike and the Cards.
I watched SC play once this year they were ok, yea they beat my dawgs in district play big deal, its just a game, but the better team won. Thats the way it goes you win some you lose some. There is always going to be excuses in any loss, hell I do it myself. And the statement about going through town, now to drive from Inez to Paintsville is a little much but if they want to do it thats them. Hell I remember a couple of years ago we were playing in the Pigskin classic in Corbin when the next team to play after us come screaming into the parking lot with a police escort and the police car had there lights and sirens on when they came screaming into the lot. The only think that sucked about it was it was in the middle of our game. outside of that I think its cool to parade your team around.
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Nike Man Wrote:Mike is from Paintsville and alot of people in Johnson County were pulling for him....I think his kids wanted to take him back home before heading to Inez. Hell, he beat JC and Paintsville. I say let them do what they want!!!! Congrats Mike and the Cards.
I was out in town picking some stuff up, when the parade went by. Afterwards, I went by Coach Howards house and we stayed up a while and when I asked him if he heard the parade, he just giggled a little.....It didn't really bother anyone.
PC_U_KNOW_98 Wrote:The kids may be classy, but their coach sure as hell isn't, the fans either. Who drives the school bus ALL the way to Paintsville with the long caravan behind them driving thru the city of Paintsville honking their horns. Why do that, I could understand Johnson Central doing that had it been them who beat Paintsville considering the schools are only 2 minutes apart, but Inez and Paintsville, BIG difference. Poor show of sportsmanship on Mike Hall's part and that is one of the reasons I can't stand him. Everyone jumped all over me for dogging him in basketball season, everyone talked about how great of a guy he was and all that BS then he does something like this. I was fine with the loss, I accepted it but this, this just boils the water, that's ridiculous.
Mike Hall did it because paintsville did it to him in districts.
basemaster Wrote:Mike Hall did it because paintsville did it to him in districts.
No they did not!!! They had a police escort from the Johnson County line straight to the School and that was it.
Painstville didn't drive all the way back to Inez, they got an escort from the Johnson County line into Paintsville. They didn't go all through the town though because of a misunderstanding..Rolleyes Even if Paintsville would've won I'm sure they wouldn't have paraded all the way back to Martin County.
It is sooo cool to parade your team around. Driving out of your way, when it just so happens, to be through the hometown of the team you just defeated is "TACKY". I do not believe SC's coach grew up in the city of "Paintsville". His "school" was located inside the city limits, but that's another thread.
I am not gonna say anything that would detract from SC's accomplishment because THIS MUST BE ABOUT THE KIDS, THEY PLAYED THE GAME AND THEY MADE THE DIFFERENCE. That parade should have been geared towards their hometown and the fans who live therein. Those are the people who wanted to see them & cheer them along with pride, but if the coach felt it was important to keep them waiting by doing what he did, then there you go....
I've been in every car parade for our teams and we never did such a thing frankly, we just wanted to get home and share it with everyone who didn't get to see the game.
I'm just gonna consider the source and move on.

Like I said earlier in this thread, Good Luck Sheldon Clark in Boyd County! Would love to see you be successful!
It was nothing but a tough loss for the Tigers. I feel for Tucker, Walt and even Pugh because of the way things turned out. It's awful easy to criticise someone for something like that and Tuck's a big boy, he can handle it.

To the poster that implied that Tuck and Walt don't know what their doing and that they were gonna take their kid(ball) and go home...bye. What those guys know is that it's about the team, not the individuals, and most certainly not the parents and their warped sense of their roll in all of this. Being part of the '90 team and having played with those guys since I was born, they know how the game is to be played. They know that you're gonna make the wrong call sometimes. If they couldn't handle it, they wouldn't have taken the job.

One thing in particular I respect about these guys. they know how to win, and they know how to lose...with class. Mike Hall can't say that, and neither can the people that made asses of themselves at the game the other night by calling out players, coaches and fans from the team they are supposedly there to root because they lost.

School on Sunday!!!!!!!
The Guru Wrote:You actually heard the coach say that Grimm was hitting Harless on purpose? I doubt that!!

Believe me or don't, I was seated on the Paintsville dugout side. Heard it stated myself. Thats all I'm saying.
Is it possible, if he said he'd hit him a third time while responding to the opposition's question, that it was a retort worthy of the question? Meaning, Tuck thought it was a stupid question, as do I, and responded with a stupid answer designed to get under there skin. That seems the most plausible explanation to me, knowing the alledged culprits as well as I do.

The point is, him saying that could have been for much better reasons than it being true. considering time and place. I wouldn't have dignified the question with an answer, but if I did, I would've said the exact same thing. I find it near impossible knowing the people that Grim did it on purpose or Tuck had anything to do with it. Funny thing is, I could find out if I wanted, but again, it's a silly notion not worthy of effort or answering. Of course, that's just my opinion.
I just wanted to state that I know from a reliable source that the Harless kid was hit on purpose.
Book Keeper Wrote:I just wanted to state that I know from a reliable source that the Harless kid was hit on purpose.
Are you saying every time???
I don't doubt once, but certainly not every time.
The Guru Wrote:Are you saying every time???
I don't doubt once, but certainly not every time.

So you are saying that it's ok to do it once. What's the difference in hitting him once and how many times he done it. My argument is when Harless got hit it was all fastball's. I could understand if a curveball got loose and hit him but fastball's come on.
I only have one thing to say all you people that think the fans drove from Inez to Paintsville must have not went to the game in Pikeville. You do take 23 north to get back to Inez.That would make paintsville on the way back.. the whole Harless getting hit thing.. It did happen.. The whole back story i will not go into.. But guys... It's all about a girl.. That's right....
I'm honestly done arguing about it. I'm way out of high school and really don't want any further part in it.

I also don't wanna see this get shut down because we're all being dickheads to each other.

Discuss the game... it was good enough, we should all have our favorite moments. Come on...

Congrats SC on your advancement and PHS on a great season.
The Guru Wrote:Are you saying every time???
I don't doubt once, but certainly not every time.
guru....i was there too. it happened. the coach was serious, there was no sarcasm involved. its about a girl, and grimm hit him on purpose. absolutely no doubt whatsoever that he did. its the facts....
When does SC and Boyd Co Play?
A girl? Which one? LOL!!!
Yeah when does SC play?
Hey Corndog, not to make you mad, but I'm simply not buying your story... not now that I have talked to people about it and about you. There was no one close to Paintsville's dugout who was a cardinal... or cardinal alum. Come to think of it, the ONLY cardinal I saw anywhere remotely close to our dugout was Coach Hall. Annnd, don't you think it's time to focus on the bigger picture? SC-vs-BC. Let's leave the boys girlfriends out of this. This one's over and done... move on. girls..... good grief!

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