[mrsportsfan]

Yes, one is intended for food as God put here to feed us. The other is for a barbaric fight of two chickens with combs to the death, and then the dead one trashed. You tell me. My father always told me not to kill ( animals) then what my family could eat, or freeze, till the next season.

[mrsportsfan]

What are the negatives? A few less chickens in the world? There are more chickens in the world than they are humans anyways. Chicken fighting is more than just two chickens going at it til the death.

Raised just for that purpose. I hardly think that these roosters have to be born to be entertained by their death.

[EOE]

These game chicken are going to fight no matter what, that is the reason why the are put in cage or tied up on a tie cord. So, why not bet on which one is going to win in a fight to the death, that is if you want to. People will bet and gamble on anything. It all comes down to politics and tax dollars as just about everything else. By the way the great Abraham Lincoln took part in this Sport of Kings. If you dont like it dont take part in it. Just go to your local little watering hole and play the poker machine,or go the the horse track, or well you get the picture..

[Stardust]

These game chicken are going to fight no matter what, that is the reason why the are put in cage or tied up on a tie cord. So, why not bet on which one is going to win in a fight to the death, that is if you want to. People will bet and gamble on anything. It all comes down to politics and tax dollars as just about everything else. By the way the great Abraham Lincoln took part in this Sport of Kings. If you dont like it dont take part in it. Just go to your local little watering hole and play the poker machine,or go the the horse track, or well you get the picture..

How about, IT'S ILLEGAL!!!!!! So NO ONE has a right to take part in it! Hmm, does that line of thinking go with, "If you don't like to Steal Cars, don't take part in it". Of, "If you don't want to cheat on your taxes, then don't do it". What part of illegal makes Chicken fighting OK? Ask Michael Vick what part of Dog Fighting is OK!

[theVILLE]

Great post SD! There are alot of things that used to be allowed that isnt now!

[Hoot Gibson]

How about, IT'S ILLEGAL!!!!!! So NO ONE has a right to take part in it! Hmm, does that line of thinking go with, "If you don't like to Steal Cars, don't take part in it". Of, "If you don't want to cheat on your taxes, then don't do it". What part of illegal makes Chicken fighting OK? Ask Michael Vick what part of Dog Fighting is OK!

Speeding and jaywalking are illegal too. How many people strictly follow the speed limits and how many people will walk half a block to avoid jaywalking? Not many.

The lottery that the state of Kentucky promotes does far more damage to families and society as a whole than chicken fighting does and it is legal. I don't advocate chicken fighting but the government should not be wasting resources enforcing laws against it.

[Stardust]

Speeding and jaywalking are illegal too. How many people strictly follow the speed limits and how many people will walk half a block to avoid jaywalking? Not many.

The lottery that the state of Kentucky promotes does far more damage to families and society as a whole than chicken fighting does and it is legal. I don't advocate chicken fighting but the government should not be wasting resources enforcing laws against it.

If there is a law, it should be enforced. Simple!

[Stardust]

I just love the mentality of "there are more important things to concentrate on". Instead of the public breaking the law, how about the public holding each other accountable. Instead, just turn a blind eye and say, it's not a problem, so don't worry about it, there are more important things to worry about. Well, somebody has to worry about it, because obviously the communities won't step up and do it. Then we want to say, why is it the government has to get involved in everything, why can't we govern ourselves. It's reasons like this. We give those on the left the right to stick their nose into our business because we take the attitude that "it's not big deal". Because of that mentality, maybe we do need the government, law-enforcement, and black choppers's hovering over us, because we won't hold ourselves accountable!

[Colonel Kill]

I think we need to worry about enforcing this law when doctors and pain clinics are spreading prescription drugs for abuse all over our state.

[Stardust]

I think we need to worry about enforcing this law when doctors and pain clinics are spreading prescription drugs for abuse all over our state.

As I said, if it's a law, then enforce it. Don't pick and choose what laws to enforce and not to. Hold each other accountable. Hold the law enforcement accountable. Hold your politicians accountable. It makes a helluva lot more sense than saying we need to worry about other things

[Hoot Gibson]

As I said, if it's a law, then enforce it. Don't pick and choose what laws to enforce and not to. Hold each other accountable. Hold the law enforcement accountable. Hold your politicians accountable. It makes a helluva lot more sense than saying we need to worry about other things

I agree that laws should not be passed if they are not going to be enforced but in the real world, police departments and courts do not have unlimited resources to enforce all laws with equal zeal. Like it or not, our police departments do have better things to do with their limited resources than to comb the hills in search of chicken fights.

Passing frivolous laws or stepping up enforcement of stupid laws that are on the books is no way to fight liberalism. The way to fight socialism is to fight for the repeal of laws that waste time and money without really benefiting society.

[Stardust]

I agree that laws should not be passed if they are not going to be enforced but in the real world, police departments and courts do not have unlimited resources to enforce all laws with equal zeal. Like it or not, our police departments do have better things to do with their limited resources than to comb the hills in search of chicken fights.

Passing frivolous laws or stepping up enforcement of stupid laws that are on the books is no way to fight liberalism. The way to fight socialism is to fight for the repeal of laws that waste time and money without really benefiting society.

WE PASSED those laws. It's always easy to blame the politicians, but how do the politicians get there? We always lay blame on the politician instead of those of us who put the politician there. Did we not know the politicians agenda before we voted him in? Shame on us. Law enforcement does not have the resources to ensure that the laws are enforced? Shame on us for allowing the Government to bail out the banks and the auto-industry instead of giving the police the resources to battle chicken fighting :biggrin:

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[Hoot Gibson]

WE PASSED those laws. It's always easy to blame the politicians, but how do the politicians get there? We always lay blame on the politician instead of those of us who put the politician there. Did we not know the politicians agenda before we voted him in? Shame on us. Law enforcement does not have the resources to ensure that the laws are enforced? Shame on us for allowing the Government to bail out the banks and the auto-industry instead of giving the police the resources to battle chicken fighting :biggrin: You do make some good points there - but I do not believe that there is any federal law against chicken fighting. If there was, the current administration would have revenuers crawling all over the hills of eastern Kentucky looking for chickens. Obama might even name a Chicken Czar to lead the fight. :biggrin:

[Stardust]

You do make some good points there - but I do not believe that there is any federal law against chicken fighting. If there was, the current administration would have revenuers crawling all over the hills of eastern Kentucky looking for chickens. Obama might even name a czar to lead the fight. :biggrin:

He still has three more years...........irateSho

[rustyankle]

I think Cockfighting which in the PC world we live in today its called Gamefowl competion is every bit a part of our heritage as thanksgiving and horse racing. the problem i see with it being ilegal is no revenue for the countys and state if they made it legal and taxed the pit owners and tax the gamefowl owners plus make you claim your winnings it would generate millions of dollars I read a study once that said if it was legalized the state of KY would make around 37 milion a year revenue thats more than horse racing. so i say make it legal

[LWC]

^WOW! That's a lot of dough!

I just want to post this to ensure that we are saying the same thing:

Is everyone in favor of keeping dog-fighting illegal?

[Wildcatk23]

I secretly own some slaves to farm the grasslands i own in the back hills of Tennessee since its part of my heritage. Its My Given right from past generations!

What a load of shit.

Animals are Animals and they don't train to fight other chickens by themselves. Humans do, Why not start raising children and sparring them every once in awhile to get them ready for the Teenage Beat down at Old Man Bobs house behind the old court house. I got 250 on Teenage Toothless.

Comparing it with Wrestling and MMA? Uh? I didn't realize these chickens made the decision to make there career about fighting. How much are they making these days>? Are the fights bringing in revenue for the cocks? We should get one of there cages on cribs!

Past Time and Heritage? What exactly is that? A load of crap from some people still living in the past and not moving with the world. I believe dog fighting was very popular in the 1800s so we should go ahead and allow it to?

Jesus, Thats ridiculous, I have always heard animals are here for our food. For us to live off of the land. ive never heard anyone say you should have a fight to see which one u eat for supper tonight.

Hell lets get the whore houses going again, Dueling in the street, anyone up for a shootout at the Golden Corral in Ashland?

[rustyankle]

^WOW! That's a lot of dough!

I just want to post this to ensure that we are saying the same thing:

Is everyone in favor of keeping dog-fighting illegal?

Yes dog fighting is alot different than cockfighting dogs are bred and trained that way it just comes natural in gamefowl

[rustyankle]

I secretly own some slaves to farm the grasslands i own in the back hills of Tennessee since its part of my heritage. Its My Given right from past generations!

What a load of shit.

Animals are Animals and they don't train to fight other chickens by themselves. Humans do, Why not start raising children and sparring them every once in awhile to get them ready for the Teenage Beat down at Old Man Bobs house behind the old court house. I got 250 on Teenage Toothless.

Comparing it with Wrestling and MMA? Uh? I didn't realize these chickens made the decision to make there career about fighting. How much are they making these days>? Are the fights bringing in revenue for the cocks? We should get one of there cages on cribs!

Past Time and Heritage? What exactly is that? A load of crap from some people still living in the past and not moving with the world. I believe dog fighting was very popular in the 1800s so we should go ahead and allow it to?

Jesus, Thats ridiculous, I have always heard animals are here for our food. For us to live off of the land. ive never heard anyone say you should have a fight to see which one u eat for supper tonight.

Hell lets get the whore houses going again, Dueling in the street, anyone up for a shootout at the Golden Corral in Ashland?

You ever rode a horse been to a circus a petting zoo horse racing aquarium or anything involving animals its the same thing so before you bash it and peoples opinion do a little research and try stay away from liberal PETA HSUS stuff and do real research

[vundy33]

I haven't been a fan of this since the first time I attended, when I walked into a room full of nothing but dead/almost dead roosters getting thrown into the fire...I've seen alot worse, we all have, but I just wasn't to into that.

On the other hand, they are damn roosters. These specific roosters are born to kill shit. They aren't dogs, or cats, or dolphins, or whatever other cool animal you can think of...it's not comparable to dog-fighting, it's just not.

And that "it's are heritage!!!" nonsense is bullshit. Really, does anyone think that ole' Joe Balls down the holler fights roosters because his granddaddy and granddaddy before that fought them? No...it's for money, and that's about it.

Like I said, I'm not a fan of it, but in the end, they are just a bunch of chickens that like to kick ass. I don't care about dead roosters, or "tortured" roosters cut up, or whatever kind of nasty combination you want to create...I just don't care, they're just chickens, that's it. Not dogs, not lions, not monkeys.....we talkin' bout chickens.

That's my opinion on it...not a fan, but to be perfectly honest, I do not care about the lives of chickens.

[TheRealVille]

Cockfighting is a part of everyone's heritage. It just about the oldest form of sport/entertainment that there is. It has been around since before Christ and is in every region of the world.
So what if people are raising these birds. That isn't against the law. Even though we know pretty much why they are raising them. It's still not against the law.
I have lived in EKY my entire life. Aside from the 6 1/2 years I spent in the military. I have known many, many good people who partook or partake in this. It is what they have always done for generations. To be honest with you. People kill me. You never hear them complain when they are taking a big bite out of that Original Recipe Chicken Breast from KFC or when they are dipping their 911 Wings in Ranch Sauce at Hooters. Have you ever seen how those chickens are raised? Those chickens whole goal in life is to die just to feed you and I. At least a Gamecock has a fighting chance to live. A lot of these game birds live better than some people do.
I have NEVER been to one of these events. And I am neither for nor against it. BUT, I can say this. I would much rather see someone raising these game birds, than see a bunch a meth labs cooking. We have much BIGGER problems (DRUGS) in EKY than some one fighting roosters. That's just my personal opinion.

I usually agree with everything you post OTH, but I can't agree when it comes to animal cruelty. The chickens that die for food, die a completely different death than a chicken that fights to the death.

[TheRealVille]

These game chicken are going to fight no matter what, that is the reason why the are put in cage or tied up on a tie cord. So, why not bet on which one is going to win in a fight to the death, that is if you want to. People will bet and gamble on anything. It all comes down to politics and tax dollars as just about everything else. By the way the great Abraham Lincoln took part in this Sport of Kings. If you dont like it dont take part in it. Just go to your local little watering hole and play the poker machine,or go the the horse track, or well you get the picture..

That's the rub, they are adding 4-5 inch long razors onto the birds heels to help with the killing. Barnyard birds fight until one runs away, these birds are in a pit and don't have that option.

[TheRealVille]

I cannot equate cockfighting with dog fights. Left to their nature dogs will fight only to establish the Alpha dog of the pack, and seldom to the death. If there are two roosters in the barnyard at daybreak there will be only one by nightfall.
As far as humane treatment prior to their death, a Gamecock lives the life of a thoroughbread while their domestic counterparts live the life of a, well, animal factory chicken.
I'm not for chicken fighting but I think there are worse things you could do, but if it's going on why not tax it and give the money to the horse people so they will hush about their racetrack slot machines.

Wrong. The alpha will beat on the minor until the minor runs and pecking order is established. I had chickens as a kid, and had more than one rooster running around the barn.


BTW, I have noticed that some of the post I'm quoting are old posts, but someone brought the thread back to life.

[TheRealVille]

You ever rode a horse been to a circus a petting zoo horse racing aquarium or anything involving animals its the same thing so before you bash it and peoples opinion do a little research and try stay away from liberal PETA HSUS stuff and do real research

Yea, I remember when I had horses and rode them, I put on big long steel razors and stabbed them in the side until they died, then got off and walked. :please: Horse riding isn't even in the same ballpark.

[RunItUpTheGut]

I am in no way for **** fighting...but i do think that boxing and wrestling are ok...I mean there humans they choose to do it on there on...**** fighting, we throw them in there to fight...Dog fighting we throw small dogs into the big dogs..when they have no chance to win!

That sounds like what happens when Lville plays UK every december LOL

[Wildcatk23]

You ever rode a horse been to a circus a petting zoo horse racing aquarium or anything involving animals its the same thing so before you bash it and peoples opinion do a little research and try stay away from liberal PETA HSUS stuff and do real research

Same thing? Why are the Circus now fighting horses? Petting Zoos offering prizes for who can penetrate a goats skin the deepest with a blade? Aquariums fighting sharks? Ive seen chicken fights, Been to a chicken fight tournament, There is no heritage or anything humane about it.

Liberal PETA HSUS Stuff? LOL! Stardust! Listen to what this guy just called you for defending these chickens!

[rustyankle]

Same thing? Why are the Circus now fighting horses? Petting Zoos offering prizes for who can penetrate a goats skin the deepest with a blade? Aquariums fighting sharks? Ive seen chicken fights, Been to a chicken fight tournament, There is no heritage or anything humane about it.

Liberal PETA HSUS Stuff? LOL! Stardust! Listen to what this guy just called you for defending these chickens!

I respect your opinion but if it something you don't like then why worry bout someone who does like it and for one read the post bout the revenue. If you research the money part of it that brings to the community its well worth it.

[vundy33]

I respect your opinion but if it something you don't like then why worry bout someone who does like it and for one read the post bout the revenue. If you research the money part of it that brings to the community its well worth it.

That's some funny shat right there...oh yeah, those guys that win alot of money at the chicken fights this weekend really do so much for the community. lol, good God..

Is there some chicken fighting charity or new courthouse or football stadium that's the result of all the money chicken fighting has brought in that I don't know about?

:dudecomeon: :lame:

[TheRealVille]

I respect your opinion but if it something you don't like then why worry bout someone who does like it and for one read the post bout the revenue. If you research the money part of it that brings to the community its well worth it.

:thatsfunn:please:

[rustyankle]

That's some funny shat right there...oh yeah, those guys that win alot of money at the chicken fights this weekend really do so much for the community. lol, good God..

Is there some chicken fighting charity or new courthouse or football stadium that's the result of all the money chicken fighting has brought in that I don't know about?

:dudecomeon: :lame:

The money part if they would tax it