[#55PirateFan]

I’m still not understanding the point system. I didn’t think you got any credit for a loss even to a good team?

Glad I'm not the only one! 😂

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Not sure how it works, but would this rpi NOW have Desales going to Bell in the 3rd round?

[pirateforlife]

Thanks for the explanation friend. I'm just going to take your guys word for it. Thats to much math for me, Lol! But that is good that we can get points from out of state teams. Same thing for in state teams, Pikeville, that beat us? We still get points for their wins?

Not sure how it works, but would this rpi NOW have Desales going to Bell in the 3rd round?

No, that matchup isnt possible until 4th round. Round 3 there will be 8 teams remaining. There are 8 districts and since you play your own district first 2 rounds then the district winner will move on to 3rd round. Districts 1-4 will play and districts 5-8 will play. Desales is in district 4 and bell is in district 5. It's possible to have belfry and bell in round 3 or round 4 or even state finals though

[#55PirateFan]

Why in the world can't it be as simple as this? And I'll use the number 16 just for example. Ever how many teams get in doesn't matter, I'll just say 16 for this:

Top 16 teams in each class make the playoffs. The final poll of the season will be used for the post season matchups.

#1 vs #16, #2 vs #15, #3 vs #14, and so on.

#1 through #8 gets home field advantage. Then the highest remaining seeds play home games.

Final two teams play at Kroger for the trophy.

And yes, it's something like the NCAA basketball tournament.

This is very simple and to the point. Do away with districts. Make your schedules and play football. Now they'd still need to figure out a way to keep teams from scheduling weak opponents just to go undeafeated and make the playoffs. A strength of schedule type of thing.

To me, something like this would be a whole lot more simpler than what's going on now.

I may be way off on this, but why couldnt this work?

[pirateforlife]

District 6 in 3A is IMO the weakest district out of the 8. Powell, Lewis, Mason, Pendleton, and Fleming Counties are those teams. I'm assuming Mason will come out of that district and be in round 3. Since Ashland and Russell are in the same district one of these teams will be eliminated by week 2 of the playoffs. Just like paintsville and raceland or pikeville and hazard both cant advance to round 3 in 1a. There are some districts in the state with 2 top 5 teams in one district. Could have some big time playoff games in round 2 because of this

[pirateforlife]

Why in the world can't it be as simple as this? And I'll use the number 16 just for example. Ever how many teams get in doesn't matter, I'll just say 16 for this:

Top 16 teams in each class make the playoffs. The final poll of the season will be used for the post season matchups.

#1 vs #16, #2 vs #15, #3 vs #14, and so on.

#1 through #8 gets home field advantage. Then the highest remaining seeds play home games.

Final two teams play at Kroger for the trophy.

And yes, it's something like the NCAA basketball tournament.

This is very simple and to the point. Do away with districts. Make your schedules and play football. Now they'd still need to figure out a way to keep teams from scheduling weak opponents just to go undeafeated and make the playoffs. A strength of schedule type of thing.

To me, something like this would be a whole lot more simpler than what's going on now.

I may be way off on this, but why couldnt this work?

Only reason they wont do it is because of travel. What if the 1 seed is pikeville and 16 is a team out past paducah? The KHSAA does not want teams traveling that far for games at least until round 4. They could rank 1-16 then seperate them into 1-8 east and 1-8 west and then it would be east vs west in the state championship. With this though, youd only need to win 4 games to win state instead of 5.

[pirateforlife]

Check out the other discussion board. I just seen it. Apparently, the khsaa is changing the format so that size of class plays into RPI rankings. I may be wrong but you get more points for beating a 6a vs 5a and 5a vs 4a and so on. So I assume if you beat the worst 3a team you get more points than beating #1 ranked 1a pikeville

[Patriot1]

Check out the other discussion board. I just seen it. Apparently, the khsaa is changing the format so that size of class plays into RPI rankings. I may be wrong but you get more points for beating a 6a vs 5a and 5a vs 4a and so on. So I assume if you beat the worst 3a team you get more points than beating #1 ranked 1a pikeville

That’s what they are saying but I see no since in that. So when your making your schedule just go and pick some of the weaker teams in classes above you and then you have a good RPI. Plus don’t play no out of state games then you won’t have that 500 thing going on. I not very intelligent but this thing is to complicated and can be manipulated by humans. Which in turn worries me.

[#55PirateFan]

Only reason they wont do it is because of travel. What if the 1 seed is pikeville and 16 is a team out past paducah? The KHSAA does not want teams traveling that far for games at least until round 4. They could rank 1-16 then seperate them into 1-8 east and 1-8 west and then it would be east vs west in the state championship. With this though, youd only need to win 4 games to win state instead of 5.

Top 12 teams in the East and top 12 teams in the West. Top 2 seeds in each bracket gets a bye. The winners meet at Kroger. That would cut the travel out and also make it five games getting to the championship. Never happen, but to this ol boy it would make perfect sense.

[bucslover68]

Check out the other discussion board. I just seen it. Apparently, the khsaa is changing the format so that size of class plays into RPI rankings. I may be wrong but you get more points for beating a 6a vs 5a and 5a vs 4a and so on. So I assume if you beat the worst 3a team you get more points than beating #1 ranked 1a pikeville

What we found out was that it was NOT changed, it was originally planned to be this way but they did not publish it with the original RPI information. Teams get rewarded for playing and beating teams higher in class than they are.

[ColtPride]

Why in the world can't it be as simple as this? And I'll use the number 16 just for example. Ever how many teams get in doesn't matter, I'll just say 16 for this:

Top 16 teams in each class make the playoffs. The final poll of the season will be used for the post season matchups.

#1 vs #16, #2 vs #15, #3 vs #14, and so on.

#1 through #8 gets home field advantage. Then the highest remaining seeds play home games.

Final two teams play at Kroger for the trophy.

And yes, it's something like the NCAA basketball tournament.

This is very simple and to the point. Do away with districts. Make your schedules and play football. Now they'd still need to figure out a way to keep teams from scheduling weak opponents just to go undeafeated and make the playoffs. A strength of schedule type of thing.

To me, something like this would be a whole lot more simpler than what's going on now.

I may be way off on this, but why couldnt this work?

Exactly. That's how college 1AA done it for years. Now since they are called the FCS they have a 20 team playoff. Still better than what the FBS is doing with their 4 team playoff.

[Patriot1]

What we found out was that it was NOT changed, it was originally planned to be this way but they did not publish it with the original RPI information. Teams get rewarded for playing and beating teams higher in class than they are.

They did not have that in at first bucslover68, I love you buddy but those Louisville high hats where pissed because a lowly 1A Pikeville has a higher RPI # than Male and Trinity. Buy the new system that just added why would Belfry even want to play Pikeville win or lose it won’t help them. They are better off to play a weak 6A school. Who wants to schedule a 1A team when the factor goes up 15% per class. Really no matter which team has the higher RPI number if they are not in your class it has no affect on your team. But the big Louisville pundits could not handle that and the khsaa folded to them.

[Iam4thecats]

They did not have that in at first bucslover68, I love you buddy but those Louisville high hats where pissed because a lowly 1A Pikeville has a higher RPI # than Male and Trinity. Buy the new system that just added why would Belfry even want to play Pikeville win or lose it won’t help them. They are better off to play a weak 6A school. Who wants to schedule a 1A team when the factor goes up 15% per class. Really no matter which team has the higher RPI number if they are not in your class it has no affect on your team. But the big Louisville pundits could not handle that and the khsaa folded to them.

#1 Pikeville still has a higher RPI. Its not intended to compare teams across class.
#2 Every week the rpi has been showing there has been a disclaimer that it wasn't official and changes were coming.
#3 Colorado had this last year. We stole the system from Colorado. It didn't come from any school.

[#55PirateFan]

Exactly. That's how college 1AA done it for years. Now since they are called the FCS they have a 20 team playoff. Still better than what the FBS is doing with their 4 team playoff.

ColtPride, I agree 100%. This way is so much simpler and to the point. There's no BS. Straight to the point. You either good enough or you ain't. Do a ranking system, for each class, and take all the computer nonsense and math out of it and play football. Seems like the KHSAA is more worried about letting every team in the playoffs (participation trophy type thing) than just putting the top teams in and letting them battle it out. And it would definitely eliminate the round 1 and 2 blowouts that shouldn't happen to begin with. Wonder how many teams has lost a star player or two in these type of games that cost them a championship?

[Patriot1]

#1 Pikeville still has a higher RPI. Its not intended to compare teams across class.
#2 Every week the rpi has been showing there has been a disclaimer that it wasn't official and changes were coming.
#3 Colorado had this last year. We stole the system from Colorado. It didn't come from any school.

That’s true but if they give a 15% increase to each class who wants to play a good 1A school when you go up and class and play a weak higher class team and get more points. What I am trying to say it’s going to in coming years get harder for 1A schools to schedule teams plus play teams out of state where a lot of the eastern Kentucky teams have to schedule now to get 9 games and it seems like 10 is just about a thing of the past.

[Iam4thecats]

Everyones mentality on scheduling is goinng to change. Poor little 1a EKY teams will find it easier to schedule KY teams now because of the serious undervalue to out of state games. You are complaining about something you are predicting will happen and not what has actually happened. You're also complaining about a minority issue when Julian is certainly not concerned with them over the majority.

[Patriot1]

Everyones mentality on scheduling is goinng to change. Poor little 1a EKY teams will find it easier to schedule KY teams now because of the serious undervalue to out of state games. You are complaining about something you are predicting will happen and not what has actually happened. You're also complaining about a minority issue when Julian is certainly not concerned with them over the majority.

Well I for one never seen where the majority voted on this maybe you can put that evidence out in public where us meaning the minority’s can see it. Sounds like to me your a Julian clone. Well us eastern Kentucky minority’s don’t like some of the Lexington and Louisville stuff pushed down out throats to help the big private’s and the big city schools if that’s hard for you to understand. I think they put you on BGR to convince us(minoritys) to go along with this not to bright system. Colorado is not one of my favorite states anyway so why get their plan?

[Iam4thecats]

Well I for one never seen where the majority voted on this maybe you can put that evidence out in public where us meaning the minority’s can see it. Sounds like to me your a Julian clone. Well us eastern Kentucky minority’s don’t like some of the Lexington and Louisville stuff pushed down out throats to help the big private’s and the big city schools if that’s hard for you to understand. I think they put you on BGR to convince us(minoritys) to go along with this not to bright system. Colorado is not one of my favorite states anyway so why get their plan?

I guess you just don't read much. I hate Julian. Julian ran this through without a vote. Enjoy wallowing in your negativity and made up statements.

[Patriot1]

I guess you just don't read much. I hate Julian. Julian ran this through without a vote. Enjoy wallowing in your negativity and made up statements.

Then we’re did the majority you were talking about come in? Believe this I am the least negative person you will ever meet but the stuff you are saying is definitely going to hurt scheduling in the future if this system stays in effect. But heck they may get the next system from China who knows. Now I was just stating my opinion if it was opposite of yours I didn’t mean no bad feelings at you just how I felt. Don’t get your feelings hurt because I feel differently than you do. I don’t its what a forum is for I thought anyway

[pirateforlife]

So does a 1a team get more points for beating a 6a team than a 3a team will since they are playing up 5 classes and a 3a team would only be playing up 3 classes? I'm confused. There is no reason for Belfry to continue playing Pikeville if this is true. They also need to start bringing in 5a and 6a schools so it helps boost their RPI.

[Iam4thecats]

Then we’re did the majority you were talking about come in? Believe this I am the least negative person you will ever meet but the stuff you are saying is definitely going to hurt scheduling in the future if this system stays in effect. But heck they may get the next system from China who knows. Now I was just stating my opinion if it was opposite of yours I didn’t mean no bad feelings at you just how I felt. Don’t get your feelings hurt because I feel differently than you do. I don’t its what a forum is for I thought anyway

I know reading comprehension is hard. Let me explain a different way. The majority of teams in KY aren't 1a eastern Ky teams. The majority of the state doesn't play any out of state teams. Maybe part of Julians hidden agenda is to discourage out of state games. I don't know. If I was a coach under this rule I would re-consider it. It takes 2 to tango in scheduling. Remember that before you decide how someone is going to game the system. Also remember that gaming the system isn't the same as preparing your team for a deep playoff run.

[bucslover68]

They did not have that in at first bucslover68, I love you buddy but those Louisville high hats where pissed because a lowly 1A Pikeville has a higher RPI # than Male and Trinity. Buy the new system that just added why would Belfry even want to play Pikeville win or lose it won’t help them. They are better off to play a weak 6A school. Who wants to schedule a 1A team when the factor goes up 15% per class. Really no matter which team has the higher RPI number if they are not in your class it has no affect on your team. But the big Louisville pundits could not handle that and the khsaa folded to them.

http://www.bluegrassrivals.com/forum/att...1569863887

[Patriot1]

I know reading comprehension is hard. Let me explain a different way. The majority of teams in KY aren't 1a eastern Ky teams. The majority of the state doesn't play any out of state teams. Maybe part of Julians hidden agenda is to discourage out of state games. I don't know. If I was a coach under this rule I would re-consider it. It takes 2 to tango in scheduling. Remember that before you decide how someone is going to game the system. Also remember that gaming the system isn't the same as preparing your team for a deep playoff run.

my reading is fine but I do agree with what you said at the end of your statement about preparing for the playoffs. But you have to admit some coaches(and they have in the past played weaker schedules to get that win number up) will game their schedule to get the home field advantage. Plus I still think and it might not especially like you said good coaches what to get ready for the playoffs but some will not schedule lower class opponents to play higher class opponents for rather higher RPI #

[Patriot1]

http://www.bluegrassrivals.com/forum/att...1569863887

All I know it was not in the draft I read but it is now. Come on now bucslover68 don’t you think that is odd and at least could be suspect to question?

[bucslover68]

All I know it was not in the draft I read but it is now. Come on now bucslover68 don’t you think that is odd and at least could be suspect to question?

It is odd, but my point was that the KHSAA made a statement saying it was in the plan all along and all the RPIs had been calculated using the class qualifier. The whole mess is confusing and it will ultimately be looked at as one of the biggest changes, right or wrong, that the KHSAA has made. It will ultimately affect scheduling big time.