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04-11-2009, 03:02 AM
Notorious Wrote:Yes, I sure did. I had a choice on whether I wanted to fall for man or woman and I chose woman.So was your potential boyfriend disappointed or accepting of your choice.
As for me I'm like CE. Being straight wasn't a choice. That's just the way God made me. A sucker for the ladies!:Thumbs:
04-11-2009, 03:15 AM
No I never had a thing for dudes. I was just stating that you do have a choice of which you want to be with. Ok then explain this man marrys a woman. Has a kid and everything. 10 years down the road man leaves a woman for a man. Is that not a choice he made?
04-11-2009, 03:21 AM
Notorious Wrote:No I never had a thing for dudes. I was just stating that you do have a choice of which you want to be with. Ok then explain this man marrys a woman. Has a kid and everything. 10 years down the road man leaves a woman for a man. Is that not a choice he made?
If he always had feelings for men and only got married and had kids because it was "the right thing to do" then no it was NOT a choice.
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04-11-2009, 03:21 AM
I think most of us agree that homosexuality is not the right way.
04-11-2009, 03:53 AM
Notorious Wrote:No I never had a thing for dudes. I was just stating that you do have a choice of which you want to be with. Ok then explain this man marrys a woman. Has a kid and everything. 10 years down the road man leaves a woman for a man. Is that not a choice he made?Did he hide his gay feelings all those years?
04-13-2009, 12:44 AM
I'm sure that thieves will say they were born thieves, the same for murderers, child molestors, and so forth. They don't have a choice because they like little kids, God made them that way. So I guess we need to legalize everything because if we don't, then we have infringed on their freedoms. Satan is powerful and he makes people think whatever they want to do is okay and God will understand. :devilflam
04-13-2009, 01:36 AM
Shady Grady Wrote:I'm sure that thieves will say they were born thieves, the same for murderers, child molestors, and so forth. They don't have a choice because they like little kids, God made them that way. So I guess we need to legalize everything because if we don't, then we have infringed on their freedoms. Satan is powerful and he makes people think whatever they want to do is okay and God will understand. :devilflam
This is a ridiculous conclusion. Only a anarchist would support such a thing.
04-13-2009, 09:32 AM
Shady Grady Wrote:I'm sure that thieves will say they were born thieves, the same for murderers, child molestors, and so forth. They don't have a choice because they like little kids, God made them that way. So I guess we need to legalize everything because if we don't, then we have infringed on their freedoms. Satan is powerful and he makes people think whatever they want to do is okay and God will understand. :devilflam
The Iowa court based its decision on the concept of equal protection under the law, as found in the Federal Constitution and in their own State Constitution. The "nurture vs. nature" debate, while entertaining, is irrelevant to this particular thread.
04-17-2009, 03:58 AM
[B]What is the nature concept?
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In relation to homosexuality, the nature concept explores the possibility of a specific gene or combination of genes present at the time of birth that genetically predispose people to homosexuality. In other words, some people are born gay.
What if people are born gay?
Gay advocates say proving there is a gay gene will provide "wider social acceptance and better protection against discrimination," as Neil Swidey writes in his article, "What Makes People Gay?" Proving that being gay is not a choice means that discrimination against gays becomes a matter of civil rights.
Opinions:
"You can't 'make' someone gay no more than you can 'make' someone straight. Of course environmental factors affect our sexuality. You just can't generalize these types of things. Ultimately what you end up doing is trying to figure out how to stop it-- like it's a disease or something--instead of trying to help people ACCEPT themselves for who they are and help nurture them into healthy relationships."
What was that? "In other words, some people are born gay." Could it be? Research? Studies? Proof? No, never.
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In relation to homosexuality, the nature concept explores the possibility of a specific gene or combination of genes present at the time of birth that genetically predispose people to homosexuality. In other words, some people are born gay.
What if people are born gay?
Gay advocates say proving there is a gay gene will provide "wider social acceptance and better protection against discrimination," as Neil Swidey writes in his article, "What Makes People Gay?" Proving that being gay is not a choice means that discrimination against gays becomes a matter of civil rights.
Opinions:
"You can't 'make' someone gay no more than you can 'make' someone straight. Of course environmental factors affect our sexuality. You just can't generalize these types of things. Ultimately what you end up doing is trying to figure out how to stop it-- like it's a disease or something--instead of trying to help people ACCEPT themselves for who they are and help nurture them into healthy relationships."
What was that? "In other words, some people are born gay." Could it be? Research? Studies? Proof? No, never.
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