[King Kong]

Those E bikes/trikes sound amazing, Hoot.  But most of them are out of my price range.  Unless Medicare covers them, which it does cover my gym membership.  I don't go very often but when I do, I use the stationary bike a whole lot.  I don't care for the tread mill because when I walk, I very much prefer to walk outside.  I will oftentimes see wildlife and that just thrills me!  I've seen bear a few times and deer.  But mostly it's squirrels and rabbits.  I like those, too.

I enjoy walking outside for seeing the wildlife.  Plus the peace that nature provides. As long as I'm not walking with my dogs.  It's peaceful with them but they chase after most of the wildlife    They've not gotten after a bear yet. Not many here but they're getting to be somewhat more common at times.  Three of my four dogs wouldn't bother a bear but that one dog, she's wild! I could see her trying to tackle a bear. Definitely not a good idea but I could see her doing it!

[Old School Hound]

Doctor wouldn't inject me since he wasn't certain of exactly what's going on with the knee. He suggested an X-ray. I declined on that for now. He wrote me a prescription for the methylpredisolone pack that you recommended and also some 800 mg Ibuprofen. I asked him to  help find me a good rheumatologist.  So, the treatment so far is the steroid pack, 2400mg/day Ibuprofen and 1600mg/day Turmeric/Curcumin.

Do you walk very much? My right knee and feet used to ache and I suspected that it was the onset of arthritis. I have also had sporadic bouts of gout. About 8 months ago, I began taking public transportation to and from my office, which includes 6-7,000 steps a day. My feet get tired sometimes from the walking, but the pain has completely disappeared. 

I also recently bought an e-bike and plan to commute to work on it when the weather cools a bit. The nice things about e-bikes is that you can control the amount of peddling effort with the push of a button. I had not been on a bike in 40 years, so right now, I'm focused on not crashing it on the parking lot.

If you are able to increase your physical activity, that may bring you some relief. Sitting in a chair 8 hours a day or more, with virtually no exercise was killing me.

Good advice. No, I haven't been very active, especially after mom died and the depression set in.  About 5 or 6 years ago I was running about 30-35 miles a week( a big reason for my knee problems now).  I really enjoyed running, and I got really good at it, but it took its toll on my knees. With the recent flareup of pain in my knee, I would'nt  have been able to walk. The pain has eased off since I started taken the medications Jet recommended.  Of course, I felt okay a couple of weeks ago and then all of a sudden, I could barely walk. It's been terrible.   The e-bike idea is interesting. I might look into that. How much do those bikes run, Hoot?

[Hoot Gibson]

Doctor wouldn't inject me since he wasn't certain of exactly what's going on with the knee. He suggested an X-ray. I declined on that for now. He wrote me a prescription for the methylpredisolone pack that you recommended and also some 800 mg Ibuprofen. I asked him to  help find me a good rheumatologist.  So, the treatment so far is the steroid pack, 2400mg/day Ibuprofen and 1600mg/day Turmeric/Curcumin.

Do you walk very much? My right knee and feet used to ache and I suspected that it was the onset of arthritis. I have also had sporadic bouts of gout. About 8 months ago, I began taking public transportation to and from my office, which includes 6-7,000 steps a day. My feet get tired sometimes from the walking, but the pain has completely disappeared. 

I also recently bought an e-bike and plan to commute to work on it when the weather cools a bit. The nice things about e-bikes is that you can control the amount of peddling effort with the push of a button. I had not been on a bike in 40 years, so right now, I'm focused on not crashing it on the parking lot.

If you are able to increase your physical activity, that may bring you some relief. Sitting in a chair 8 hours a day or more, with virtually no exercise was killing me.

Good advice. No, I haven't been very active, especially after mom died and the depression set in.  About 5 or 6 years ago I was running about 30-35 miles a week( a big reason for my knee problems now).  I really enjoyed running, and I got really good at it, but it took its toll on my knees. With the recent flareup of pain in my knee, I would'nt  have been able to walk. The pain has eased off since I started taken the medications Jet recommended.  Of course, I felt okay a couple of weeks ago and then all of a sudden, I could barely walk. It's been terrible.   The e-bike idea is interesting. I might look into that. How much do those bikes run, Hoot?

I spent $2,000 for mine, but it would be overkill for most people my age. My commute would be around 2 hours on a bike. I'm also heavier than an average biker, so I wanted to make sure that the bike could make the round trip with a load on a single charge. You can get a good Lectric bike starting at around $800. You can get cheaper brands, but they often require a lot of assembly and support can be non-existent. 

I also had to buy some tools, mostly some Allen wrenches and a couple of torque wrenches to make sure that the factory had tightened everything right. Lectric has an extensive library of YouTube videos on preparing for your first ride and for making basic repairs.

The company is based in Phoenix, but like most e-bikes, the components are made in China. However, the company has not raised prices in response to the increased tariffs and customer support is also based in Phoenix.

Assembling my bike consisted of attaching the front wheel, adjusting the handlebars and seat height, and then checking bolts with the torque wrenches. The tires are shipped deflated, so I had to inflate them. 

I'm planning my first trip out of my neighborhood tomorrow. Just let me know if you have any questions. I'm no expert, but I have spent countless hours researching e-bike on YouTube.

[King Kong]

I'm curious on how those e-bikes do going up hill. If they make it easier.  When I was in the shape of my life, on a regular bike, I struggled going uphill. Often having to push and walk the thing lol

[Hoot Gibson]

I'm curious on how those e-bikes do going up hill. If they make it easier.  When I was in the shape of my life, on a regular bike, I struggled going uphill. Often having to push and walk the thing lol

Hill climbing is one of the best things about e-bikes. For an average sized rider, most bikes easily climb most hills, although it depends on the power of the motor and weight of the rider and cargo. In eastern Kentucky, my bike would carry me up nearly any hill. It has a 750 watt motor and 8 gears. On a very steep hill, I might need to pedal to maintain a reasonable speed. If a hill is to steep and you have to push the bike, most good bikes, including mine, have a walk mode that will push the bike at up to a 2 to 3 mph rate.

Some cheaper "good" bikes come with 500 watt motors, which are still adequate for climbing hills for average sized riders. Below 500 watts, a rider might need to push his bike up some steep hills.

My AI estimates that my bike would be able to carry a 330 lb. rider up a 20 percent steep paved road in throttle-only mode, and a 30 percent or steeper road with a 330 pound rider peddling in the lowest gear while in pedal-assist 5 mode. (330 lb. is the maximum recommended rider weight for my bike.) My bike weighs around 100 pounds, so a lighter bike equipped with a 750 watt motor would climb steeper hills.

You can buy cheaper Chinese branded bikes with more powerful motors, but I would not recommend getting one because of restrictions on riding them on trails and roads in Manny areas. There are 3 classes that e-bikes are most commonly rated for operation.

Class 1 bikes are limited to 20 mph in pedal assist only. Class 2 bikes are limited to 20 mph in pedal assist or throttle mode, and Class 3 bikes are limited to 20 mph in throttle mode and 28 mph in pedal-assist mode. Laws and regulations are based on e-bike class.

My bike and most others can be configured to operate as a class 1, 2, or 3 e-bike. E-trikes are often limited to Class 1 and 2 operation because they are prone to tip over at higher speeds when turning.

[Hoot Gibson]

Note: I did not intend to disparage cheaper e-bikes in any of my posts. If you have lots of patience and mechanical skills, a $300 to $500 e-bike from Walmart or Amazon can be a great deal, if you cannot afford or are unwilling to spend more on a more on a bike. I hate spending time assembling stuff myself. $2,000 is a lot of money to spend on an e-bike, but I could have easily spent 2 to 3 times as much buying a similarly (or better) equipped bike from an e-bike shop instead of ordering a bike directly from a company through the Internet. Lectra has only been in business 6 or 7 years, but they sell more e-bikes in the U.S. than anybody else.

[Hoot Gibson]

Note: I did not intend to disparage cheaper e-bikes in any of my posts. If you have lots of patience and mechanical skills, a $300 to $500 e-bike from Walmart or Amazon can be a great deal, if you cannot afford or are unwilling to spend more on a bike. I hate spending time assembling stuff myself.

$2,000 is a lot of money to spend on an e-bike, but I could have easily spent 2 to 3 times as much buying a similarly (or better) equipped bike from an e-bike shop instead of ordering a bike directly from a company through the Internet. Lectra has only been in business 6 or 7 years, but they sell more e-bikes in the U.S. than anybody else. 

Besides cost, I avoided buying from a shop because I think I need to be able to make most repairs to my bike on the side of a road, if necessary. Transporting a broken down e-bike to a shop for repairs can be expensive. When I get a bike rack, I will probably have to get one with a ramp because loading a 100-pound bike without a ramp is a two-man job, or a job for one very stout young man.

[Old School Hound]

Note: I did not intend to disparage cheaper e-bikes in any of my posts. If you have lots of patience and mechanical skills, a $300 to $500 e-bike from Walmart or Amazon can be a great deal, if you cannot afford or are unwilling to spend more on a bike. I hate spending time assembling stuff myself.

$2,000 is a lot of money to spend on an e-bike, but I could have easily spent 2 to 3 times as much buying a similarly (or better) equipped bike from an e-bike shop instead of ordering a bike directly from a company through the Internet. Lectra has only been in business 6 or 7 years, but they sell more e-bikes in the U.S. than anybody else. 

Besides cost, I avoided buying from a shop because I think I need to be able to make most repairs to my bike on the side of a road, if necessary. Transporting a broken down e-bike to a shop for repairs can be expensive. When I get a bike rack, I will probably have to get one with a ramp because loading a 100-pound bike without a ramp is a two-man job, or a job for one very stout young man.

Sorry, my bad. I should have read closer. Thanks.

[Old School Hound]

Doctor wouldn't inject me since he wasn't certain of exactly what's going on with the knee. He suggested an X-ray. I declined on that for now. He wrote me a prescription for the methylpredisolone pack that you recommended and also some 800 mg Ibuprofen. I asked him to  help find me a good rheumatologist.  So, the treatment so far is the steroid pack, 2400mg/day Ibuprofen and 1600mg/day Turmeric/Curcumin.

Do you walk very much? My right knee and feet used to ache and I suspected that it was the onset of arthritis. I have also had sporadic bouts of gout. About 8 months ago, I began taking public transportation to and from my office, which includes 6-7,000 steps a day. My feet get tired sometimes from the walking, but the pain has completely disappeared. 

I also recently bought an e-bike and plan to commute to work on it when the weather cools a bit. The nice things about e-bikes is that you can control the amount of peddling effort with the push of a button. I had not been on a bike in 40 years, so right now, I'm focused on not crashing it on the parking lot.

If you are able to increase your physical activity, that may bring you some relief. Sitting in a chair 8 hours a day or more, with virtually no exercise was killing me.

Good advice. No, I haven't been very active, especially after mom died and the depression set in.  About 5 or 6 years ago I was running about 30-35 miles a week( a big reason for my knee problems now).  I really enjoyed running, and I got really good at it, but it took its toll on my knees. With the recent flareup of pain in my knee, I would'nt  have been able to walk. The pain has eased off since I started taken the medications Jet recommended.  Of course, I felt okay a couple of weeks ago and then all of a sudden, I could barely walk. It's been terrible.   The e-bike idea is interesting. I might look into that. How much do those bikes run, Hoot?

I spent $2,000 for mine, but it would be overkill for most people my age. My commute would be around 2 hours on a bike. I'm also heavier than an average biker, so I wanted to make sure that the bike could make the round trip with a load on a single charge. You can get a good Lectric bike starting at around $800. You can get cheaper brands, but they often require a lot of assembly and support can be non-existent. 

I also had to buy some tools, mostly some Allen wrenches and a couple of torque wrenches to make sure that the factory had tightened everything right. Lectric has an extensive library of YouTube videos on preparing for your first ride and for making basic repairs.

The company is based in Phoenix, but like most e-bikes, the components are made in China. However, the company has not raised prices in response to the increased tariffs and customer support is also based in Phoenix.

Assembling my bike consisted of attaching the front wheel, adjusting the handlebars and seat height, and then checking bolts with the torque wrenches. The tires are shipped deflated, so I had to inflate them. 

I'm planning my first trip out of my neighborhood tomorrow. Just let me know if you have any questions. I'm no expert, but I have spent countless hours researching e-bike on YouTube.

Let us know how your first e-bike excursion goes. It sounds like a lot of fun. I would definitely consider getting one at some point. What are the advantages of  e-bikes over mopeds?  e-bikes gives you the option of peddling, which allows for more eercise, right?

[Hoot Gibson]

Doctor wouldn't inject me since he wasn't certain of exactly what's going on with the knee. He suggested an X-ray. I declined on that for now. He wrote me a prescription for the methylpredisolone pack that you recommended and also some 800 mg Ibuprofen. I asked him to  help find me a good rheumatologist.  So, the treatment so far is the steroid pack, 2400mg/day Ibuprofen and 1600mg/day Turmeric/Curcumin.

Do you walk very much? My right knee and feet used to ache and I suspected that it was the onset of arthritis. I have also had sporadic bouts of gout. About 8 months ago, I began taking public transportation to and from my office, which includes 6-7,000 steps a day. My feet get tired sometimes from the walking, but the pain has completely disappeared. 

I also recently bought an e-bike and plan to commute to work on it when the weather cools a bit. The nice things about e-bikes is that you can control the amount of peddling effort with the push of a button. I had not been on a bike in 40 years, so right now, I'm focused on not crashing it on the parking lot.

If you are able to increase your physical activity, that may bring you some relief. Sitting in a chair 8 hours a day or more, with virtually no exercise was killing me.

Good advice. No, I haven't been very active, especially after mom died and the depression set in.  About 5 or 6 years ago I was running about 30-35 miles a week( a big reason for my knee problems now).  I really enjoyed running, and I got really good at it, but it took its toll on my knees. With the recent flareup of pain in my knee, I would'nt  have been able to walk. The pain has eased off since I started taken the medications Jet recommended.  Of course, I felt okay a couple of weeks ago and then all of a sudden, I could barely walk. It's been terrible.   The e-bike idea is interesting. I might look into that. How much do those bikes run, Hoot?

I spent $2,000 for mine, but it would be overkill for most people my age. My commute would be around 2 hours on a bike. I'm also heavier than an average biker, so I wanted to make sure that the bike could make the round trip with a load on a single charge. You can get a good Lectric bike starting at around $800. You can get cheaper brands, but they often require a lot of assembly and support can be non-existent. 

I also had to buy some tools, mostly some Allen wrenches and a couple of torque wrenches to make sure that the factory had tightened everything right. Lectric has an extensive library of YouTube videos on preparing for your first ride and for making basic repairs.

The company is based in Phoenix, but like most e-bikes, the components are made in China. However, the company has not raised prices in response to the increased tariffs and customer support is also based in Phoenix.

Assembling my bike consisted of attaching the front wheel, adjusting the handlebars and seat height, and then checking bolts with the torque wrenches. The tires are shipped deflated, so I had to inflate them. 

I'm planning my first trip out of my neighborhood tomorrow. Just let me know if you have any questions. I'm no expert, but I have spent countless hours researching e-bike on YouTube.

Let us know how your first e-bike excursion goes. It sounds like a lot of fun. I would definitely consider getting one at some point. What are the advantages of  e-bikes over mopeds?  e-bikes gives you the option of peddling, which allows for more eercise, right?

E-bikes don't require a license or insurance in most jurisdictions, as long as they operate within the parameters of the appropriate class. E-bikes can be ridden legally in most locations that a bicycle can be ridden. That includes bike trails, mixed-use running, walking, and bike paths in state, national, and local parks, as well as streets and most roads.

The electricity for me to ride my particular e-bike 200 miles a week would cost under $50 per year. The cost for a person weighing 165 to 180 pounds to ride the same distance would be be between $30 and $50/year. The cost for a lighter bike would be even lower. In other words, my daily commute would cost me pennies and I can haul a few bags of groceries home.

An e-bike runs very quietly, so you can hear vehicles approaching.

My only experience riding a moped in eastern Kentucky was pretty scary because it was too loud to hear cars approaching from behind and too slow to keep somebody speeding around a curve from running over me from behind. I never wanted near a moped after that ride.

For me, there are too many blind curves and hills with nowhere to go but a ditch or steep bank to get out of the way of a speeding car on a moped in areas like eastern Kentucky. At least with an e-bike, I could hear a car coming before it hit me.

[King Kong]

I'm curious on how those e-bikes do going up hill. If they make it easier.  When I was in the shape of my life, on a regular bike, I struggled going uphill. Often having to push and walk the thing lol

Hill climbing is one of the best things about e-bikes. For an average sized rider, most bikes easily climb most hills, although it depends on the power of the motor and weight of the rider and cargo. In eastern Kentucky, my bike would carry me up nearly any hill. It has a 750 watt motor and 8 gears. On a very steep hill, I might need to pedal to maintain a reasonable speed. If a hill is to steep and you have to push the bike, most good bikes, including mine, have a walk mode that will push the bike at up to a 2 to 3 mph rate.

Some cheaper "good" bikes come with 500 watt motors, which are still adequate for climbing hills for average sized riders. Below 500 watts, a rider might need to push his bike up some steep hills.

My AI estimates that my bike would be able to carry a 330 lb. rider up a 20 percent steep paved road in throttle-only mode, and a 30 percent or steeper road with a 330 pound rider peddling in the lowest gear while in pedal-assist 5 mode. (330 lb. is the maximum recommended rider weight for my bike.) My bike weighs around 100 pounds, so a lighter bike equipped with a 750 watt motor would climb steeper hills.

You can buy cheaper Chinese branded bikes with more powerful motors, but I would not recommend getting one because of restrictions on riding them on trails and roads in Manny areas. There are 3 classes that e-bikes are most commonly rated for operation.

Class 1 bikes are limited to 20 mph in pedal assist only. Class 2 bikes are limited to 20 mph in pedal assist or throttle mode, and Class 3 bikes are limited to 20 mph in throttle mode and 28 mph in pedal-assist mode. Laws and regulations are based on e-bike class.

My bike and most others can be configured to operate as a class 1, 2, or 3 e-bike. E-trikes are often limited to Class 1 and 2 operation because they are prone to tip over at higher speeds when turning.

Thanks Hoot, I've started researching them some and have heard alot about the 750 motor.  I've seen many recommended that size motor.  And that walk mode you were talking about, I like that, that'd be a must for me.  Hope you have a good ride when you try your's out.

[King Kong]

Just got done mowing the grass for like the millionth time this year lol

That got me thinking about these e-bikes about how they make riding easier.  My one push mower I use the most, it has a lever you pull and you just hang on. It moves and pushes itself.  You don't push much just mostly hanging on for the ride. With the older mowers you were pushing all the time.  That lever and the mower pulling itself makes little hills and slopes alot nicer to mow.

I've threatened for years getting another riding mower.  Especially this year where the grass seems to grow back like 3 days later lol I'm still using the push mower, walking behind it is alot of extra exercise.

[Granny Bear]

Push mower?? You probably don't remember the original push mower. The blades were somehow connected to the wheels, so when the wheels moved, so did the blades. The power was supplied by whatever human was pushing it. Now, THAT'S a push mower!!!

[King Kong]

Push mower??  You probably don't remember the original push mower.  The blades were somehow connected to the wheels, so when the wheels moved, so did the blades.  The power was supplied by whatever human was pushing it.  Now, THAT'S a push mower!!!

I never have seen one in person.  Just on The Andy Griffith Show.  Opie was mowing the lawn with one like you mentioned.  Believe Gomer mighta come over once and used it to mow Andy's lawn with 

When I was younger I helped plow a garden once with a plow with no moter. I forgot exactly what it's called, Dad still has one.

He used to plow with a team of mules when he was younger, talks about that alot.

Don't remember hearing him talk about mowing grass when he was younger.  Believe they put a garden and grew vegetables anywhere they could.

[Old School Hound]

Do you walk very much? My right knee and feet used to ache and I suspected that it was the onset of arthritis. I have also had sporadic bouts of gout. About 8 months ago, I began taking public transportation to and from my office, which includes 6-7,000 steps a day. My feet get tired sometimes from the walking, but the pain has completely disappeared. 

I also recently bought an e-bike and plan to commute to work on it when the weather cools a bit. The nice things about e-bikes is that you can control the amount of peddling effort with the push of a button. I had not been on a bike in 40 years, so right now, I'm focused on not crashing it on the parking lot.

If you are able to increase your physical activity, that may bring you some relief. Sitting in a chair 8 hours a day or more, with virtually no exercise was killing me.

Good advice. No, I haven't been very active, especially after mom died and the depression set in.  About 5 or 6 years ago I was running about 30-35 miles a week( a big reason for my knee problems now).  I really enjoyed running, and I got really good at it, but it took its toll on my knees. With the recent flareup of pain in my knee, I would'nt  have been able to walk. The pain has eased off since I started taken the medications Jet recommended.  Of course, I felt okay a couple of weeks ago and then all of a sudden, I could barely walk. It's been terrible.   The e-bike idea is interesting. I might look into that. How much do those bikes run, Hoot?

I spent $2,000 for mine, but it would be overkill for most people my age. My commute would be around 2 hours on a bike. I'm also heavier than an average biker, so I wanted to make sure that the bike could make the round trip with a load on a single charge. You can get a good Lectric bike starting at around $800. You can get cheaper brands, but they often require a lot of assembly and support can be non-existent. 

I also had to buy some tools, mostly some Allen wrenches and a couple of torque wrenches to make sure that the factory had tightened everything right. Lectric has an extensive library of YouTube videos on preparing for your first ride and for making basic repairs.

The company is based in Phoenix, but like most e-bikes, the components are made in China. However, the company has not raised prices in response to the increased tariffs and customer support is also based in Phoenix.

Assembling my bike consisted of attaching the front wheel, adjusting the handlebars and seat height, and then checking bolts with the torque wrenches. The tires are shipped deflated, so I had to inflate them. 

I'm planning my first trip out of my neighborhood tomorrow. Just let me know if you have any questions. I'm no expert, but I have spent countless hours researching e-bike on YouTube.

Let us know how your first e-bike excursion goes. It sounds like a lot of fun. I would definitely consider getting one at some point. What are the advantages of  e-bikes over mopeds?  e-bikes gives you the option of peddling, which allows for more eercise, right?

E-bikes don't require a license or insurance in most jurisdictions, as long as they operate within the parameters of the appropriate class. E-bikes can be ridden legally in most locations that a bicycle can be ridden. That includes bike trails, mixed-use running, walking, and bike paths in state, national, and local parks, as well as streets and most roads.

The electricity for me to ride my particular e-bike 200 miles a week would cost under $50 per year. The cost for a person weighing 165 to 180 pounds to ride the same distance would be be between $30 and $50/year. The cost for a lighter bike would be even lower. In other words, my daily commute would cost me pennies and I can haul a few bags of groceries home.

An e-bike runs very quietly, so you can hear vehicles approaching.

My only experience riding a moped in eastern Kentucky was pretty scary because it was too loud to hear cars approaching from behind and too slow to keep somebody speeding around a curve from running over me from behind. I never wanted near a moped after that ride.

For me, there are too many blind curves and hills with nowhere to go but a ditch or steep bank to get out of the way of a speeding car on a moped in areas like eastern Kentucky. At least with an e-bike, I could hear a car coming before it hit me.

Wow, those are some nice advantages. I will definitely consider an e-bike. I appreciate the info.

[Old School Hound]

Push mower??  You probably don't remember the original push mower.  The blades were somehow connected to the wheels, so when the wheels moved, so did the blades.  The power was supplied by whatever human was pushing it.  Now, THAT'S a push mower!!!

I still have a push mower. LOL   And yes, I still use it on occasion.

[King Kong]

Push mower??  You probably don't remember the original push mower.  The blades were somehow connected to the wheels, so when the wheels moved, so did the blades.  The power was supplied by whatever human was pushing it.  Now, THAT'S a push mower!!!

I never have seen one in person.  Just on The Andy Griffith Show.  Opie was mowing the lawn with one like you mentioned.  Believe Gomer mighta come over once and used it to mow Andy's lawn with 

When I was younger I helped plow a garden once with a plow with no moter. I forgot exactly what it's called, Dad still has one.

He used to plow with a team of mules when he was younger, talks about that alot.

Don't remember hearing him talk about mowing grass when he was younger.  Believe they put a garden and grew vegetables anywhere they could.

I'd guarantee those mowers you were talking about Granny was a good workout.  I'd almost like to have one to play around with. I've been thinking since you mentioned them, I can't ever remember seeing one in person.  It's really hard to believe that I haven't seen one.  
If I had one I'd have to take it to my brother's and play around with it in his yard. He'd probably be like, Kong what in the world's the matter with you boy? We have technology today lol
Now they have them little remote control mowers. The one's I've seen advertised on TV don’t look no bigger than one of those little remote control sweepers.  I'd take me forever to mow with something like that lol

[plantmanky]

If there ever was a thread, about a thread getting derailed, lol.

[jetpilot]

https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Brushless-Commuter-Removable-Commuting/dp/B0F8HY24SN/ref=sr_1_3?crid=V5J0OW5EPMAS&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.cscam3Y_Yp-vtTx5OqSJi2CwtX0_cNCzSbIY3U7Lbl7zlsqrfJDmqfMaG6QE9ZbfwkO5l2vF9wVidz7yXEHCvm3BTfRvEkRcMvQ7hwgnzECPup_u9NFi-hpL-uVuANq_CVKa4rzk5MceGBhBYmBNuQDnaSsz2fnfnBZ8qDLvv-lkphfrb90et_vsyBfchy9gdESOM8D6aDe4R3kbbd1jenfPbT2F3F108Uxq8P4NCgk.e_kXSNEZDaR320JkuJ-HDq7ssdxssIcj4Asr0VI1vOU&dib_tag=se&keywords=ebike%2Byoloway&qid=1754267620&sprefix=ebike%2Byolo%2Caps%2C86&sr=8-3&th=1

[jetpilot]

That's what's in a box in the garage waiting for me to assemble it. Wasn't going to spend a bunch. Might upgrade at some point but this looks like all I need.

[Granny Bear]

Yes it has!! From NBC drowning actors to a gossipy discussion!!

[Granny Bear]

Push mower??  You probably don't remember the original push mower.  The blades were somehow connected to the wheels, so when the wheels moved, so did the blades.  The power was supplied by whatever human was pushing it.  Now, THAT'S a push mower!!!

I never have seen one in person.  Just on The Andy Griffith Show.  Opie was mowing the lawn with one like you mentioned.  Believe Gomer mighta come over once and used it to mow Andy's lawn with 

When I was younger I helped plow a garden once with a plow with no moter. I forgot exactly what it's called, Dad still has one.

He used to plow with a team of mules when he was younger, talks about that alot.

Don't remember hearing him talk about mowing grass when he was younger.  Believe they put a garden and grew vegetables anywhere they could.

I've plowed and "hired" with a team of horses more times than once.  Then you "lay it off".    
You are right about gardens.  Most folks took most of their "lawn" to use for garden space.  The weed eater we used was a reap hook.

[King Kong]

If there ever was a thread, about a thread getting derailed, lol.

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Yes it has!!  From NBC drowning actors to a gossipy discussion!!

Usually when I'm part of derailing a thread I'm talking about fishing alot, surprised I've not swung the conversation that way yet! At least until now, kinda 

This isn’t the most glamorous thing to talk about but, left over fish parts buried in the garden, make really good fertilizer. Lol

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https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Brushless-Commuter-Removable-Commuting/dp/B0F8HY24SN/ref=sr_1_3?crid=V5J0OW5EPMAS&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.cscam3Y_Yp-vtTx5OqSJi2CwtX0_cNCzSbIY3U7Lbl7zlsqrfJDmqfMaG6QE9ZbfwkO5l2vF9wVidz7yXEHCvm3BTfRvEkRcMvQ7hwgnzECPup_u9NFi-hpL-uVuANq_CVKa4rzk5MceGBhBYmBNuQDnaSsz2fnfnBZ8qDLvv-lkphfrb90et_vsyBfchy9gdESOM8D6aDe4R3kbbd1jenfPbT2F3F108Uxq8P4NCgk.e_kXSNEZDaR320JkuJ-HDq7ssdxssIcj4Asr0VI1vOU&dib_tag=se&keywords=ebike%2Byoloway&qid=1754267620&sprefix=ebike%2Byolo%2Caps%2C86&sr=8-3&th=1

That's awesome Jet, man that thing looks pretty sweet. Seemed to be a pretty good deal price wise, from the looks of it.  Plus it has a 1000 motor on it, should have plenty of power.

[Hoot Gibson]

If there ever was a thread, about a thread getting derailed, lol.

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Yes it has!!  From NBC drowning actors to a gossipy discussion!!

Usually when I'm part of derailing a thread I'm talking about fishing alot, surprised I've not swung the conversation that way yet! At least until now, kinda 

This isn’t the most glamorous thing to talk about but, left over fish parts buried in the garden, make really good fertilizer. Lol

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https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Brushless-Commuter-Removable-Commuting/dp/B0F8HY24SN/ref=sr_1_3?crid=V5J0OW5EPMAS&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.cscam3Y_Yp-vtTx5OqSJi2CwtX0_cNCzSbIY3U7Lbl7zlsqrfJDmqfMaG6QE9ZbfwkO5l2vF9wVidz7yXEHCvm3BTfRvEkRcMvQ7hwgnzECPup_u9NFi-hpL-uVuANq_CVKa4rzk5MceGBhBYmBNuQDnaSsz2fnfnBZ8qDLvv-lkphfrb90et_vsyBfchy9gdESOM8D6aDe4R3kbbd1jenfPbT2F3F108Uxq8P4NCgk.e_kXSNEZDaR320JkuJ-HDq7ssdxssIcj4Asr0VI1vOU&dib_tag=se&keywords=ebike%2Byoloway&qid=1754267620&sprefix=ebike%2Byolo%2Caps%2C86&sr=8-3&th=1

That's awesome Jet, man that thing looks pretty sweet. Seemed to be a pretty good deal price wise, from the looks of it.  Plus it has a 1000 motor on it, should have plenty of power.

E-bike motors are usually rated in nominal watts, with peak watts and torque the other important measures of power. If you buy a bike, it's important to compare all three numbers, although manufacturers frequently exaggerate the power of their motors, capacity of their batteries, and maximum range of their bikes. The torque number is a guide for how well a bike will climb hills, but there is no industry standard for measuring torque. 

Most low to moderately priced e-bikes are made in Chinese factories, so I suspect that many parts are interchangeable between brands. Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, and Italy produce higher end and more expensive e-bikes. I choose my bike because Lectric company has warehouses, engineering teams,  and service support in the U.S., and I couldn't justify spending more money on a bike made in Europe. Chinese manufactured e-bikes offer much better bang for the buck.

I'm leaning toward buying an e-trike for my wife from Lectric, although a company named Meet One makes trikes that get great reviews. Meet One has a trike that has dual batteries, dual motors, and all wheel drive that looks amazing, but it weighs 180 lbs., it's expensive, and I'm not sure that I could get it in and out of our apartment. I doubt that I could convince my wife to go along with spending so much money on her trike. But if I had serious mobility issues, the Meet One AWD trike is what I would want. It will climb hills so steep that I would be afraid to climb them.

[Old School Hound]

Yes it has!!  From NBC drowning actors to a gossipy discussion!!

Don't forget, my arthritis and suicidal thoughts.