Shelby Valley best team in Pike County!

HAIL PIKEVILLE! · 09-08-2009, 02:21 AM

PC_You_Know Wrote:Dunno where you've been, but Pikeville would be lucky to make the playoffs.

:thatsfunn:thatsfunn:thatsfunn
Youre hatred of Pikeville has clouded your logic once again. Pikeville WILL make the playoffs. As for this best in the county nonsense. Let Belfry and Pikeville play PC and Tug Valley and let SV play Holy Cross, Ashland, and Boyle and see if this thread is started then?

HAIL PIKEVILLE! · 09-08-2009, 02:24 AM

jetpilot Wrote:This is what you get when Pike Central and Shelby Valley fans attempt to talk football.:biggrin:

:lmao:

**More Cowbell** · 09-08-2009, 02:48 AM

HAIL PIKEVILLE! Wrote:As for this best in the county nonsense. Let Belfry and Pikeville play PC and Tug Valley and let SV play Holy Cross, Ashland, and Boyle and see if this thread is started then?

Is it nonsense for someone on here to say SV is the best in the county? Of course it is. But would it be nonsense to say they could be 2nd best this year? Not really...

I wouldn't lump Belfry and Pikeville in the same boat together, not at this point. After all, the Pirates have won their rivalry game by margins of 41 and 42 points the last two years. While the two schools may have similar football traditions, right now at this point they are not on the same level.

I think we all know what would happen if Belfry and SV played this year. Belfry's youth would keep it from being as bad as it has been the last couple years, but it still wouldn't be close. The Cantrall ratings predict around a 30 point win, which sounds right to me.

But what if Pikeville and SV played this year? I believe the game would be a lot closer than many in maroon would like to believe, and SV might even win. Cantrall currently would rate Pikeville as a 2 point favorite, which again sounds pretty accurate to me as well. But sadly, that is one matchup we will likely NEVER see...

**BCF4L** · 09-08-2009, 10:17 AM

Tanner Tackett #35 Wrote:o i see, Prestonsburg laid the big ole hammer on us last year? they beat us by i think 2 points on a catch in the endzone with 27 seconds left on the clock, and we was up on the scoreboard the entire game. yea that sounds like the laid the hammer to us. :p

This tells me exactly all I need to know. SV considered last years game a win because they only lost by 2. Great job Wildcats. Maybe this year you will almost win by only losing by 14. In order to receive respect, you have to earn it. Popping off at the mouth does not earn respect, you must prove it on the field. And for the last 100 years, SV has done nothing to earn any respect from teams like Belfry or Prestonsburg. You are just a pebble amongst the mountain that teams like Belfry and Prestonsburg must climb to win the state championship.

Hondo · 09-08-2009, 11:33 AM

I haven't read all of the posts in this thread, so I'm not sure what people are saying, but to say Shelby Valley is the best in Pike county, at this juncture of the season is a very exagerated statement. If Pikeville or Belfry had played PC and Tug Valley, they both would be 2-0. To say that Belfry and/or Pikeville is a great deal better than SV would also be very exagerated.
I see all three schools being very close in comparison this year. A head to head matchup between SV and either will not happen, therefore definitive proof will not be there. Common opponents will have to be the only proof, and the one common opponent will be Prestonsburg. Honestly, the way Pburg is playing and the level of opponents they have already beaten this year, it would be a shock if Pikeville or SV would beat them.

But this is a long season, teams improve and there are many variables at play, including potential injuries; but even if Valley or Pikeville did beat Pburg, whose to say by the end of the season, Belfry hasn't improved and developed into a quality team.

I would think, no matter where ya from or who ya cheer for in Pike County, we all would have to agree that all 3 programs have the potential to play quality football this year and probably each could beat the other on any given friday night.

blue60 · 09-09-2009, 12:59 AM

BCF4L Wrote:This tells me exactly all I need to know. SV considered last years game a win because they only lost by 2. Great job Wildcats. Maybe this year you will almost win by only losing by 14. In order to receive respect, you have to earn it. Popping off at the mouth does not earn respect, you must prove it on the field. And for the last 100 years, SV has done nothing to earn any respect from teams like Belfry or Prestonsburg. You are just a pebble amongst the mountain that teams like Belfry and Prestonsburg must climb to win the state championship.

One what state title did P-burg win two Valley Has beaten P-burg a couple of times .99 .and i think maybe 02 or 03 was not 100years ago.

blue60 · 09-09-2009, 01:01 AM

Hondo Wrote:I haven't read all of the posts in this thread, so I'm not sure what people are saying, but to say Shelby Valley is the best in Pike county, at this juncture of the season is a very exagerated statement. If Pikeville or Belfry had played PC and Tug Valley, they both would be 2-0. To say that Belfry and/or Pikeville is a great deal better than SV would also be very exagerated.
I see all three schools being very close in comparison this year. A head to head matchup between SV and either will not happen, therefore definitive proof will not be there. Common opponents will have to be the only proof, and the one common opponent will be Prestonsburg. Honestly, the way Pburg is playing and the level of opponents they have already beaten this year, it would be a shock if Pikeville or SV would beat them.

But this is a long season, teams improve and there are many variables at play, including potential injuries; but even if Valley or Pikeville did beat Pburg, whose to say by the end of the season, Belfry hasn't improved and developed into a quality team.

I would think, no matter where ya from or who ya cheer for in Pike County, we all would have to agree that all 3 programs have the potential to play quality football this year and probably each could beat the other on any given friday night.

Well said.

BoondockSaint · 09-09-2009, 01:14 AM

cuppett777 Wrote:lets see how valley would be if they played belfry teams, would have been beat like a drum,belfry was in both games they lost...

Who won when the were in Middle School

**BelfryPride** · (This post was last modified: 09-09-2009, 02:04 AM by BelfryPride.)

Tubby Lover Wrote:I think that SV is the best team in the county right now!!!:worthy:

I hate to rain on your parade, and your opinion is your right, but until Valley can beat an opponent that has had even a little recent success, IMO, Valley is not the best in the county. Well, I know that you're going to say that they're 2-0, yes they are, but those two wins have came against Pike Central (no offense) and a Tug Valley team that only won 2-3 games last year. We all know that Valley has the better record, but take into consideration the kind of opponents Belry and Pikeville have been playing. Belfry went on the road to P'burg and lost by a TD to the team that went into Jackson and knocked off Breathitt Co. We then had to play 4A Boyd Co. and won , then in came 5A Ashland and only lost by 2pts. We have 5A Letcher this week and then 5A Whitley after that. Anyway, congratulations on your recent successes, but please schedule,play and beat the big dogs before you claim yourselves kings of the yard.
And no, I"m not trying to be a jerk, but just put things into perspective beffore you make such statements, good luck though and I hope you win every game...

**BelfryPride** · 09-09-2009, 01:52 AM

Tubby Lover Wrote:This is high school ball not the pros!I feel Valley could Belfry right now!

Oh lord, bring it on!...It's a darn shame that Valley dropped the Belfry game off their schedule, and how you can talk smack when you won't have the chance to back it up. I'm going to shut up and rise to a higher level now...lol

**BelfryPride** · 09-09-2009, 02:02 AM

CardinalAlum Wrote:To be the best you have to beat the best and i don't think its happened so no you cant call yourself the best team in pike Co.

To quote the Nature Boy Ric Flair: "You gotta beat the man, to be the man" Wooooooooo!

CoachM · 09-09-2009, 10:17 AM

I really would like to know if you have been watching the same teams play that everyone else has

**phs1986** · 09-09-2009, 11:22 AM

CoachM Wrote:I really would like to know if you have been watching the same teams play that everyone else has

Been watching Belfry and I can tell you they are a vastly improved team from what I saw in the P-burg game... TOTALLY different to watch!!!

mister... basketball · 09-09-2009, 11:26 AM

shelby valley IS NOT THE BEST TEAM IN PIKE COUNTY, END OF STORY! valley has no chance at stopping belfry's ground game. belfry is still the best team in the county without a doubt. no doubt there down but still the best. yes valley is good but not quite the best in the county.

BelfryPirates · 09-09-2009, 11:11 PM

Tubby Lover Wrote:I think that SV is the best team in the county right now!!!:worthy:

Maybe in basketball...

And wins over Pike Central and Tug Valley, not really the best teams there ever were, don't make a team the best in their county. Undefeated doesn't mean unbeatable.

Tanner Tackett #35 · 09-09-2009, 11:18 PM

BelfryPirates Wrote:Maybe in basketball...

And wins over Pike Central and Tug Valley, not really the best teams there ever were, don't make a team the best in their county. Undefeated doesn't mean unbeatable.

I agree with you, Undefeated doesn't mean unbeatable, We (SV) are a good team, BUT we are striving to get better each and every day. Were still early in the season and we have alot to work on, but i think we will get it done and be a hard team to compete with. Lets hope im right! Smile

catwoman · 09-09-2009, 11:20 PM

How will sv do against the bulldogs from Lawrence county on 9/18?

**Real Badman** · 09-09-2009, 11:22 PM

Well...I think I figured out what this guy is thinkin...

Shelby Valley DOES have the best record in Pike County at 3-0

but does that make them really better then Belfry or Pikeville?
no....

if you go by W - L records then this would be one messed up season

Rankings by W/L's

1 Shelby Valley 3-0
2 East Ridge 1-1
3 Belfry 1-2
4 Pike Central 1-2
5 Phelps 1-2
6 Pikeville 0-2

Tanner Tackett #35 · 09-09-2009, 11:29 PM

Real Badman Wrote:Well...I think I figured out what this guy is thinkin...

Shelby Valley DOES have the best record in Pike County at 3-0

but does that make them really better then Belfry or Pikeville?
no....

if you go by W - L records then this would be one messed up season

Rankings by W/L's

1 Shelby Valley 3-0
2 East Ridge 1-1
3 Belfry 1-2
4 Pike Central 1-2
5 Phelps 1-2
6 Pikeville 0-2

Yes we do have the best record in Pike County, and no that doesn't mean we are the best team, BUT just because so far we haven't played a "great" team, that also doesn't mean were not a good team. We are going to play good teams, this week we play Knott Central, and next Week we play Lawrence County. If we won those games, people would still say something about our scheldule. But we all know SV hasnt played the best teams so far, but since we havent played the best teams, does that mean were not a good team?

**Real Badman** · 09-09-2009, 11:44 PM

No not at all. Shelby Valley is a good football team. But too say there better then Belfry is what I have a problem with.

central fan · 09-09-2009, 11:54 PM

BoondockSaint Wrote:Who won when the were in Middle School

virgie was a dynasty andsmoked them..............but if you wanna go by that pikeville almost beat virgie in basketball that same year.

**BCF4L** · 09-10-2009, 10:18 AM

Tanner Tackett #35 Wrote:I agree with you, Undefeated doesn't mean unbeatable, We (SV) are a good team, BUT we are striving to get better each and every day. Were still early in the season and we have alot to work on, but i think we will get it done and be a hard team to compete with. Lets hope im right!

I have to admit, I do admire your courage and confidence in Shelby Valley. I'm assuming you are a player for SV and I fully expect you to support your team 100%. I can't fault you for that. SV has vastly improved from a few years back and I think it's great because it just makes watching high school football that much better. :Thumbs:

JunkYardDog · 09-10-2009, 12:40 PM

shelby valley is NOT i mean NOT the best

**cuppett777** · 09-10-2009, 01:19 PM

BoondockSaint Wrote:Who won when the were in Middle School

BELFRY, they have won last 3 middle school county champs and will win a 4th straight this year... Tongue

irateSho

**cuppett777** · 09-10-2009, 01:24 PM

sv dont have a chance against lc they beat them by 2 to 3 tds

central fan · 09-10-2009, 04:02 PM

cuppett777 Wrote:BELFRY, they have won last 3 middle school county champs and will win a 4th straight this year...irateSho

you my friend are indeed wrong............belfry lost to virgie like 38 to 6 when this group of seniors were in 8th grade

**BCF4L** · 09-10-2009, 04:59 PM

central fan Wrote:you my friend are indeed wrong............belfry lost to virgie like 38 to 6 when this group of seniors were in 8th grade

Then that would make him correct. That means this group of seniors were Juniors, Sophomores, and Freshman when Belfry won the championships. That is 3 years.

Tanner Tackett #35 · 09-10-2009, 08:56 PM

BCF4L Wrote:Then that would make him correct. That means this group of seniors were Juniors, Sophomores, and Freshman when Belfry won the championships. That is 3 years.

Well actually that would make him wrong, because the dude asked who won when they were in middle school? and he said BELFRY, and my middle school years, when i played at virgie we beat every team by 30+. I didnt lose a game in middle school!

Tanner Tackett #35 · 09-10-2009, 08:58 PM

BCF4L Wrote:I have to admit, I do admire your courage and confidence in Shelby Valley. I'm assuming you are a player for SV and I fully expect you to support your team 100%. I can't fault you for that. SV has vastly improved from a few years back and I think it's great because it just makes watching high school football that much better. :Thumbs:

Thanks, and yea i play for SV lol.

B.J. Roberts #19 · 09-10-2009, 11:38 PM

cuppett777 Wrote:sv dont have a chance against lc they beat them by 2 to 3 tds

Understandable u dont think we have a chance i guess cause honestly i play for Valley and i know we have proved nothing at all by beat PC and Tug but when we get the chance to prove that we have a great team this year we will take it. Im not saying we are going to beat lc but its going to be alot better game than what most ppl are expecting. The 10-12 seniors that actually play on our team have been all playing ball together for a very long time and most of us are closer than brothers and where all finally seniors this year and ready to prove we CAN be the best. And by playing this game we will finally get to see what kind of team we actually have.