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09-21-2019, 06:17 AM
WideRight05 Wrote:I leave a nice compliment for Belfry after playing their last game so well then this happens. This would be like Highlands losing to Newcath. It wouldn’t and shouldn’t happen. Yet it almost seems to be a regular thing with Belfry.
How so? Pikeville and Belfry aren’t actually that much difference in school size. Both enrollments are in the 500’s. That’s nowhere near the same as Highlands and NCC. I think a lot of people are forgetting Pikeville football tradition. Yeah they’ve had some down years in the past 20 years. A lot of that to do with the coaches in between McNamees’ stints. They’ve been building back since around 10-11. This has been a dogfight for many years.
09-21-2019, 06:19 AM
Belfry_99 Wrote:Whoa there buddy, never did I not give Pikeville credit, congrats to them! Youâll never convince me though that Belfry has a coach that can teach how to defend any credible passing offense. Just pathetic.
Belfry has won multiple state championships against passing offenses with the same coaches they have now. Losing Mounts from the linebacker position in the second half was a huge factor. It allowed Pikeville to establish a run game and stay in manageable 2nd and 3rd downs. They kept Belfry on there heels the whole second half. Pikeville is for real and become much more dangerous after tonight. 1A beware!!
09-21-2019, 06:21 AM
mrfootball03 Wrote:How so? Pikeville and Belfry arenât actually that much difference in school size. Both enrollments are in the 500âs. Thatâs nowhere near the same as Highlands and NCC. I think a lot of people are forgetting Pikeville football tradition. Yeah theyâve had some down years in the past 20 years. A lot of that to do with the coaches in between McNameesâ stints. Theyâve been building back since around 10-11. This has been a dogfight for many years.
Pikeville doesnât have anywhere near 500 9th thru 12th graders.
09-21-2019, 06:30 AM
WideRight05 Wrote:I leave a nice compliment for Belfry after playing their last game so well then this happens. This would be like Highlands losing to Newcath. It wouldnât and shouldnât happen. Yet it almost seems to be a regular thing with Belfry.
OffTheHook Wrote:WOW....1A is stronger than what everyone thinks!
Nice win Panthers!
Not to take anything from Pikeville because this is a solid win. But Belfry is not the same Belfry were all used to. Itâs true Belfry would have had a better chance had Dixon played, but Belfry has some big problems on both sides of the ball.
If these issues arenât addressed, donât look for Belfry to go deep in 3A this year. While 1A is definitely competitive this year, I donât think you can use this game as a measuring stick to gauge 1A by as Belfry is not as sound as most years. 3A as a whole to me seems to be down, on top of losing some of the normal 3A heavyweights. 1A is definitely on the uptick though! 👍
09-21-2019, 06:32 AM
VoR_58 Wrote:Pikeville doesn’t have anywhere near 500 9th thru 12th graders.
That is correct as Pikeville is 7-12. But the point is Male enrollment 9-12 between Belfry and Pikeville is really not that far off. Belfry is solid 2A by numbers alone now, and Pikeville is on the higher side of 1A. Not 5A to 2A numbers differences like NCC and Highlands which the post used for example.
09-21-2019, 06:59 AM
bucslover68 Wrote:Congrats to the Panthers you made the plays Belfry didnât. Bout sums it up.
Yes. That pretty much says it all. Congratulations to Pikeville. This is a bad loss for Belfry. The Belfry O-Line blocked well enough to win the game. But turnovers and stupid penalties came back to haunt the Pirates. Defensively, Belfry was too loose with their tackling. Rains is a nice back. Props to him. He reminds me a lot of Derek Wellman. He always falls forward. Not having Isaac Dixon available was an offensive blow...then losing LB Mounts at halftime was even a bigger blow. But McNamee and staff outcoached Haywood and staff. Thatâs a disappointment.
09-21-2019, 07:07 AM
One statement: Dixon rb from belfry did not play. Would of been a different outcome. Believe me.
09-21-2019, 07:08 AM
Ok, so Belfry won more often but Pikeville has won two out of three against Belfry. Totally unacceptable. Should never happen.
09-21-2019, 07:12 AM
WideRight05 Wrote:Ok, so Belfry won more often but Pikeville has won two out of three against Belfry. Totally unacceptable. Should never happen.
No I think Pikeville has won 2 out of the last 5.....But Belfry should not have lost tonight. Disappointing too say the least. With or without Dixon.
09-21-2019, 07:12 AM
I somewhat agree that this team isn't quit like the Belfry teams in the past. But let's not forget either that Pikeville beat the so called "Belfry Dynasty" 29-20 back in 2014 in their dominant years either. These things happen.
09-21-2019, 07:17 AM
#55PirateFan Wrote:I somewhat agree that this team isn't quit like the Belfry teams in the past. But let's not forget either that Pikeville beat the so called "Belfry Dynasty" 29-20 back in 2014 in their dominant years either. These things happen.
True. In that game Belfry came out flat and Pikeville was ready to play. Tonight is just a microcosm of the season too this point. Theyâre not play as core units yet. Whether itâs coaching, egos, not enough reps together or a combination of all three.....it simply isnât there. IMO, this Belfry team is in some trouble. Just being honest.
09-21-2019, 07:21 AM
OutlawJoseyWales Wrote:True. In that game Belfry came out flat and Pikeville was ready to play. Tonight is just a microcosm of the season too this point. Theyâre not play as core units yet. Whether itâs coaching, egos, not enough reps together or a combination of all three.....it simply isnât there. IMO, this Belfry team is in some trouble. Just being honest.
A little trouble. But it looks like 3A as a whole is not playing to well either, except for Bell, so if we can get some confidence in the next four games against a weak district, get everyone healthy, and find an identity we may be ok.
09-21-2019, 07:25 AM
I’m not going to talk about the 2014 team they definitely wasn’t the best that come through here but as far as this team goes there not that good at all yet
09-21-2019, 07:26 AM
Warriorhawk17 Wrote:One statement: Dixon rb from belfry did not play. Would of been a different outcome. Believe me.
Another statement: I donât think he would have made much difference on how Pikeville moves the ball though.
09-21-2019, 07:36 AM
Can someone explain why Cook doesn't play on the offensive side of the ball?
09-21-2019, 07:37 AM
VoR_58 Wrote:Another statement: I donât think he would have made much difference on how Pikeville moves the ball though.
Maybe and maybe not but this is just my 2 cents which isnât worth 2 cents. Anytime you take a playmaker off the field it hurts I donât care what anybody says. With a playmaker there is always a chance they make a play to turn a game. To say whether Dixon playing would have changed the out come is a guess that nobody will ever know cause they donât have to play again this year so congrats to Pikeville you earned it.
09-21-2019, 07:42 AM
99PIRATEFAN Wrote:Iâm not going to talk about the 2014 team they definitely wasnât the best that come through here but as far as this team goes there not that good at all yet
What? lol They went 13-2 and won the state chamoionship
09-21-2019, 07:42 AM
VoR_58 Wrote:Another statement: I donât think he would have made much difference on how Pikeville moves the ball though.
Well....weâll never know so it doesnât matter. Pikeville won. Congrats. Belfry has a LONG way to go to be a good football team capable of advancing to Kroger field. . Weâre not here yet. Not by a long shot.
09-21-2019, 07:48 AM
#55PirateFan Wrote:A little trouble. But it looks like 3A as a whole is not playing to well either, except for Bell, so if we can get some confidence in the next four games against a weak district, get everyone healthy, and find an identity we may be ok.
Bell Co and Ashland appear to be playing pretty well. The rest of 3A isnt playing well....unfortunately Weâre not either. I think we all figured it would take some time to round into shape....but there are definitely some areas of concern. The clock is ticking. The competition going forward is weak as water until JC. IMO, this was the game to start pulling all the pieces together .....even without Dixon.
09-21-2019, 07:52 AM
Canât they switch qbâsback?
09-21-2019, 07:54 AM
Was this Colemanâs first game back?
09-21-2019, 07:55 AM
2nd. And 0-2
09-21-2019, 07:59 AM
Saw something out of the Pirates near the end of the game that was a bit out of character for them....I saw panic. How else can you explain 2 consecutive penalties one a false start and one for 2 many men on the field on Belfrys final possession? Dont believe Iâve ever seen a Phillip Haywood coaches team do that late in a game until tonight...Not trying to stir anything up. Just an observation from someone who respects Coach Haywood and Belfry tremendously....
09-21-2019, 08:13 AM
BP2011 Wrote:What? lol They went 13-2 and won the state chamoionship
Thats what I meant. This team has now lost 2 games, same as that team, and may lose one more but they have plenty enough talent on this team to win a championship in 3A. This is not an excuse, but not one single game this year has Belfry had everyone playing at the same time. Their not good yet because we just cant seem to get everyone on the field at the same time. I made a reference to the 2014 team because its eerily similar. They both lost to Pikeville. They lost to JC and it's looking like we may as well. Only difference is we lost to a really good Ohio team to. Point being, just because we lost to Pikeville and haven't come together yet isnt a cause to give up on this team. Like I said, there's more than enough talent on this team to win a championship.
09-21-2019, 08:13 AM
HAIL PIKEVILLE! Wrote:Saw something out of the Pirates near the end of the game that was a bit out of character for them....I saw panic. How else can you explain 2 consecutive penalties one a false start and one for 2 many men on the field on Belfrys final possession? Dont believe Iâve ever seen a Phillip Haywood coaches team do that late in a game until tonight...Not trying to stir anything up. Just an observation from someone who respects Coach Haywood and Belfry tremendously....
Youâre 100% correct. Honestly, the Pikeville Staff coached a better game. SMH. 😳😳😳👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
09-21-2019, 08:21 AM
#55PirateFan Wrote:Thats what I meant. This team has now lost 2 games, same as that team, and may lose one more but they have plenty enough talent on this team to win a championship in 3A. This is not an excuse, but not one single game this year has Belfry had everyone playing at the same time. Their not good yet because we just cant seem to get everyone on the field at the same time. I made a reference to the 2014 team because its eerily similar. They both lost to Pikeville. They lost to JC and it's looking like we may as well. Only difference is we lost to a really good Ohio team to. Point being, just because we lost to Pikeville and haven't come together yet isnt a cause to give up on this team. Like I said, there's more than enough talent on this team to win a championship.
Thatâs right. The talent appears to be in place. We canât give up on these kids. Theyâre working hard. Theyâve put the time in. But the hand thatâs been dealt with the multiple injuries and illness has to be overcome with coaching better technique and fundamental play. Weâve also got to get our QB comfortable. He looks very tentative and rusty. Which most kids would be who missed all of preseason camp and only came back two weeks ago.
09-21-2019, 08:32 AM
OutlawJoseyWales Wrote:Thatâs right. The talent appears to be in place. We canât give up on these kids. Theyâre working hard. Theyâve put the time in. But the hand thatâs been dealt with the multiple injuries and illness has to be overcome with coaching better technique and fundamental play. Weâve also got to get our QB comfortable. He looks very tentative and rusty. Which most kids would be who missed all of preseason camp and only came back two weeks ago.
Agree 100% brother. Yeah, Brett's still rusty but he'll get there and when he does and we get a full backfield, the 3A championship will be in reach.
09-21-2019, 08:39 AM
#55PirateFan Wrote:Agree 100% brother. Yeah, Brett's still rusty but he'll get there and when he does and we get a full backfield, the 3A championship will be in reach.
Letâs hope so👍🏼
09-21-2019, 09:18 AM
The silence coming from Williamsburg is DEAFENING!!!
09-21-2019, 11:58 AM
Congrats to the Panthers!
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